diff --git a/book/2003-02.txt b/book/2003-02.txt index 566788a..6933fa7 100644 --- a/book/2003-02.txt +++ b/book/2003-02.txt @@ -1190,9 +1190,9 @@ http://codingstyle.com/articles/using-ms-vcpp-with-gnu-wine.html When you built the latest version did you do it on Windows? \start +Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:16:30 -0500 From: Bill Page To: list -Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:16:30 -0500 Subject: RE: porting Axiom Tim, diff --git a/book/2003-10.txt b/book/2003-10.txt index 7327f88..d78b7a5 100644 --- a/book/2003-10.txt +++ b/book/2003-10.txt @@ -5921,9 +5921,9 @@ Dylan, Unfortunately I can't even look further at the issue now. I'm buried. \start +Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:40:52 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Dylan Thurston -Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:40:52 -0400 Subject: algebra cycles again (was: Left shifts of negative numbers) Dylan, @@ -11552,10 +11552,10 @@ tests. Odd. \start +Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:51:00 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: layer22 -Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:51:00 -0500 Tim, @@ -11631,10 +11631,10 @@ put into Makefile but not into Makefile.dvi. The gcl versions 2.4.1 and 2.5 are not in the zips directory. \start -Subject: RE: axiom compilation problem (gcl) +Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:12:55 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:12:55 -0500 +Subject: RE: axiom compilation problem (gcl) Ralf, diff --git a/book/2003-11.txt b/book/2003-11.txt index 26ad106..8827f07 100644 --- a/book/2003-11.txt +++ b/book/2003-11.txt @@ -27918,10 +27918,11 @@ It's available at: 416 KB. \start +Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:17:54 +0100 +From: David Mentre To: Peter Simons Subject: re: [Gcl-devel] Re: Trying to build axiom -From: David Mentre -Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:17:54 +0100 + Peter Simons writes: > It's available at: @@ -28312,10 +28313,10 @@ Peter, Where can I find Gentoo ISO images? \start +Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:31:23 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: book -Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:31:23 -0500 For anyone serious about Axiom, I highly recommend getting a copy of this book! I tried via Amazon but diff --git a/book/2004-03.txt b/book/2004-03.txt index 6b07f1c..f11b0c0 100644 --- a/book/2004-03.txt +++ b/book/2004-03.txt @@ -876,10 +876,10 @@ Yes that is a bug but one that has been fixed. You'll need a later release. \start +Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 17:04:51 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Xin Li Subject: RE: a problem -Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 17:04:51 -0500 xli96, diff --git a/book/2004-08.txt b/book/2004-08.txt index 5821217..002f154 100644 --- a/book/2004-08.txt +++ b/book/2004-08.txt @@ -2035,8 +2035,8 @@ notation - not only that it be powerful in theory, but shown to be powerful in interesting examples. Just my 2c. \start -From: Martin Rubey Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:42:11 +0000 +From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [Axiom-math] musings on notation @@ -2320,8 +2320,8 @@ CY had set me to thinking about this earlier today with his email: > powerful in interesting examples. Just my 2c. \start -From: Martin Rubey Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:54:36 +0000 +From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly Subject: re: musings on notation Cc: Paul Graham diff --git a/book/2004-11.txt b/book/2004-11.txt index 08b031a..38c07a3 100644 --- a/book/2004-11.txt +++ b/book/2004-11.txt @@ -2867,9 +2867,9 @@ s with few linux knowledge, and we would like to advertise AXIOM isnt it? \start +Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 10:42:46 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Bertfried Fauser -Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 10:42:46 -0500 Subject: RE: Installing AXIOM on Mandrake Bertfried, diff --git a/book/2004-12.txt b/book/2004-12.txt index b6e945e..29752bd 100644 --- a/book/2004-12.txt +++ b/book/2004-12.txt @@ -4385,10 +4385,10 @@ the -x (--execute) or -i (--initialize) option in order to customize the initialization. \start +Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 16:03:04 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly, Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: commit policy -Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 16:03:04 -0500 Tim diff --git a/book/2005-01.txt b/book/2005-01.txt index 91c213b..6b197d0 100644 --- a/book/2005-01.txt +++ b/book/2005-01.txt @@ -1,27 +1,6 @@ \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cl5Rf-0006He-W8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:06:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cl5P9-0004zt-QC - for list; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:04:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cl5P5-0004xx-J9 - for list; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:04:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cl5Oi-0004mA-NG - for list; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:03:53 -0500 -Received: from [213.148.21.2] (helo=ns.netorn.ru) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cl5DY-0001Uo-GR - for list; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 07:52:21 -0500 -Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([213.148.20.88]) - by ns.netorn.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j02CqDYJ015339 - for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:52:14 +0300 (MSK) - (envelope-from Vadim V. Zhytnikov) - virus records: 62068, updated: 26.12.2004] Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:52:08 +0300 From: Vadim V. Zhytnikov - rv:1.7.4) Gecko/20040926 To: list Subject: Re: savannah cvs @@ -89,46 +68,12 @@ Unfortunately GCL's line editing doesn't work under sman (with -noclef). I'm seeking the way to patch clef on linux. -Best wishes, - -Vadim - --- - Vadim V. Zhytnikov - - - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClJJG-0003k1-RG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:55:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClJJE-0003hS-Hz - for list; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:55:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClJJD-0003gt-6S - for list; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:55:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClJJD-0003gm-2W - for list; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:55:07 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.101] (helo=pimout2-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClJ7V-0006Is-Gh - for list; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:43:01 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (179.178.252.64.snet.net [64.252.178.179]) - by pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j033gtXO322358; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 22:42:59 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j034NXW20534; - Sun, 2 Jan 2005 23:23:33 -0500 +\start Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 23:23:33 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Gilbert Baumslag Subject: axiom--main--1--patch-24 +Cc: Gilbert Baumslag *, @@ -254,47 +199,12 @@ Keywords: daly hyperdoc graphics 20050101 tpd ======================================================== 20050101 January 2005 version pushed to savannah CVS - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXG4-0000sp-Nu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:48:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXG0-0000rA-MX - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:48:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXFz-0000qT-6X - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:48:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClXFy-0000q4-Kg - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:48:42 -0500 -Received: from [138.96.64.20] (helo=sophia.inria.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1ClWpe-0002pl-An - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:21:30 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by sophia.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j03H6Mwg031161; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:06:22 +0100 -Received: from idefix.inria.fr (idefix.inria.fr [138.96.111.6]) - by sophia.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j03H57QI030584; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:05:08 +0100 -Received: from idefix.inria.fr (bmanuel@localhost) - by idefix.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.5) with ESMTP id j03H57SG006360; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:05:07 +0100 -To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: pi, e, EXPR INT Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:05:07 +0100 From: Manuel Bronstein - (sophia.inria.fr [138.96.64.20]); - Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:05:08 +0100 (MET) -Cc: Manuel Bronstein, list, - Bob McElrath - - -Greetings, +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: pi, e, EXPR INT +Cc: Bob McElrath > > What is the purpose of the domain HACKPI ?? @@ -313,47 +223,11 @@ but it occurs frequently enough in school examples (specially for graphs) so it was worth a special hack. In a non-interactive environment (library), HACKPI would not exist. -Best, - - --- --- Manuel Bronstein --- Manuel Bronstein --- http://www.inria.fr/cafe/Manuel.Bronstein/ - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXZm-0007RV-2R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:09:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXZj-0007Q9-0R - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:09:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXZd-0007Nh-Vw - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:09:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClXZd-0007NL-Ph - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:09:01 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClXO6-0004lV-D6 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:57:06 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.138.100]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050103185703.GCZE1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:57:03 -0500 +Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:57:19 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: axiom--main--1--patch-24 -Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:57:19 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list - -Tim, On my linux box where I had previous compiled path-23, I did @@ -395,14 +269,6 @@ Regards, Bill Page. > -----Original Message----- -> From: -> axiom-developer-bounces+bill.page1=sympatico.ca@nongnu.org -> .org] On Behalf Of root -> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:24 PM -> To: list -> Cc: Gilbert Baumslag -> Subject: axiom--main--1--patch-24 -> > > *, > @@ -429,33 +295,8 @@ Bill Page. > Let me know if main works for you. I'll be pushing a binary to > http://axiom.axiom-developer.org shortly. > -> Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXd8-00081L-AW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:12:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXd7-00080q-5j - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:12:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXd6-00080c-Q7 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:12:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClXd6-00080U-Lz - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:12:36 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClXRc-0005o9-42 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:00:44 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id F0D8B106939; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:00:25 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin146.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.146]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB020106884 - for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:00:24 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:00:41 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list @@ -478,43 +319,11 @@ to learn the opinions from the first hands, from the Axiom Developers. Any help is highly appreciated, - much thanks in advance. - -Best wishes, - -Vladimir Bondarenko - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXod-0004X8-Cv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:24:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXob-0004Vl-Sf - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:24:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXob-0004VF-CH - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:24:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClXob-0004V7-91 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:24:29 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.102] (helo=pimout3-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClXdB-0000vj-Ub - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:12:42 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (179.178.252.64.snet.net [64.252.178.179]) - by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j03JCbHg206994; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:12:40 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j03JrFk21466; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:53:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:53:15 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom--main--1--patch-24 -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Bill, Try @@ -527,75 +336,21 @@ a second X server on your box. The usual display is :0.0 The error you're getting is unrelated to axiom so rebuilding will not solve it. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXs8-0006GY-9p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:28:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXs6-0006GL-TX - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:28:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXs6-0006G9-IP - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:28:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClXs6-0006G6-Fz - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:28:06 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.102] (helo=pimout3-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClXga-0001yK-Pt - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:16:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (179.178.252.64.snet.net [64.252.178.179]) - by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j03JFlHg194324; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:15:48 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j03JuJq21477; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:56:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:56:19 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Vladimir Bondarenko - Bondarenko on Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:00:41 +0200) Subject: Re: Axiom 2.2 vs Axiom for Windows comparison -Cc: list - -Vladimir, The algebra in the commercial version is slightly behind the current free axiom version due to updates by some of the authors and bug fixes. The windows version shares the same algebra as the other free versions. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXv5-0006WT-Mz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:31:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXv3-0006W2-My - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:31:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClXv2-0006Vo-Bj - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:31:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClXv2-0006Vl-9Y - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:31:08 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.4] (helo=tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClXjm-0002uB-DI - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:19:30 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.138.100]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050103191928.KWBP1836.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:19:28 -0500 +Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:19:45 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:19:45 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list Subject: axiom--windows--1--patch-10 Tim, @@ -653,38 +408,11 @@ algebra/Makefile will allow changes to spad files to properly propagate to other files in order to minimize the total number of files that have to be re-compiled. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClY87-0004id-01 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:44:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClY85-0004iB-A7 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:44:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClY84-0004hk-Fo - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:44:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClY84-0004hh-6V - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:44:36 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.54] (helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClXwa-0006j9-W0 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:32:45 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.138.100]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050103193242.LTRY19622.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:32:42 -0500 +Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:32:59 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: axiom--main--1--patch-24 -Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:32:59 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list Tim, @@ -725,41 +453,12 @@ Bill. > > The error you're getting is unrelated to axiom so rebuilding > will not solve it. -> -> Tim -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClYYU-0005CB-Hc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:11:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClYYR-00058D-QZ - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:11:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClYYO-00055a-12 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:11:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClYYN-00054P-GU - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:11:47 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.54] (helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClYMe-0005ZN-Ps - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:59:40 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.138.100]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050103195939.MASH19622.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:59:39 -0500 +Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:59:58 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: axiom--main--1--patch-24 -Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:59:58 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list - -Tim, Oops, false alarm. It's working now. Great! The problem was mine. I was trying to run the new axiom while signed on as root. And @@ -776,14 +475,6 @@ Cheers, Bill Page. > -----Original Message----- -> From: -> axiom-developer-bounces+bill.page1=sympatico.ca@nongnu.org -> .org] On Behalf Of Bill Page -> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:33 PM -> To: Tim Daly -> Cc: list -> Subject: RE: axiom--main--1--patch-24 -> > > Tim, > @@ -824,49 +515,12 @@ Bill Page. > > > > The error you're getting is unrelated to axiom so rebuilding > > will not solve it. -> > -> > Tim -> > -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClYiT-0007Ph-6R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:22:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClYiP-0007Nm-98 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:22:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClYiM-0007Ll-9q - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:22:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClYiM-0007Lb-5Y - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:22:06 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.74] (helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClYWy-000831-DW - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:10:20 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.138.100]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050103201019.DMKT2034.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:10:19 -0500 +Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:10:37 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: axiom--main--1--patch-24 -Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:10:37 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list - -Tim, Hyperdoc is pretty neat alright! But it is interesting how the windows style seems so "dated". It looks like @@ -881,37 +535,10 @@ of these pages easily edited without rebuilding the system? Where can I find the actual text in the directory tree? (Probably obvious once I look for it. :) -Bill page. - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClYyx-0002G3-Db - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:39:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClYyv-0002FK-Ie - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:39:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClYyu-0002Ei-Hg - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:39:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClYyu-0002EY-En - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:39:12 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.101] (helo=pimout2-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClYnb-0003zq-Hg - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:27:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (179.178.252.64.snet.net [64.252.178.179]) - by pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j03KRPXO394590; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:27:25 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j03KC9G21531; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:12:09 -0500 +\start Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:12:09 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Cc: list, Tim Daly Subject: Re: axiom--windows--1--patch-10 > patch-10 implements several new implicit make rules in the @@ -920,8 +547,6 @@ Subject: Re: axiom--windows--1--patch-10 ok. i'm looking now. - - > Also, although I have not commited any changes for this yet, > I have also been working on adding the missing dependencies in > the algebra/Makefile. @@ -929,39 +554,11 @@ ok. i'm looking now. This isn't going to work which is why I left the dependencies blank. There is a subtle reason why this fails which escapes me at the moment. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClZDr-0006wt-EI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:54:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClZDq-0006wZ-06 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:54:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClZDp-0006w9-3m - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:54:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClZDp-0006w6-2R - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:54:37 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.102] (helo=pimout3-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClZ2A-0007wJ-F2 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:42:34 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (179.178.252.64.snet.net [64.252.178.179]) - by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j03KgSHg145964; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:42:33 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j03LN4M21580; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:23:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:23:04 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom--main--1--patch-24 -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Bill, The hypertex is intended to be edited by users. We are looking to build special purpose pages around courses such as linear algebra. @@ -1000,39 +597,11 @@ re: what's new. This all needs to be fixed by February when main is due to be pushed into savannah. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cla66-00040Q-1c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:50:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cla63-0003z9-D7 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:50:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cla60-0003xN-BU - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:50:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cla60-0003xI-87 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:50:36 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.54] (helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClZuk-0004mf-V9 - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:38:59 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.108]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050103213856.NAZD19622.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:38:56 -0500 +Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:39:12 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:39:12 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list -Subject: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - -Tim, +Subject: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. You wrote: > @@ -1071,42 +640,11 @@ the same as the generated code. As far as I know, finding such fixed-point solutions is the only way to deal with a system of dependencies with cycles. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clbbu-000240-U8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:27:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clbbt-00023i-Qs - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:27:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clbbs-000238-KS - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:27:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Clbbs-000235-9k - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:27:36 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.102] (helo=pimout3-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Clb0A-0004S7-Mq - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:48:38 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (179.178.252.64.snet.net [64.252.178.179]) - by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j03MmaHg037072; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:48:36 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j03NTD421654; - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:29:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:29:13 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Cc: list, Tim Daly -Subject: Re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - -Bill, +Subject: Re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Ah, you've hit the nail in my memory. The cyclic dependencies will cause the system to build in an arbitrary way. Adding the dependencies @@ -1143,45 +681,13 @@ now the BOOTSTRAP code mirrors the algebra code and all is well. I don't ever expect a user to reach that far down into the algebra. Making BOOTSTRAP files for all of the algebra opens this hole everywhere. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cldh5-0000wD-8b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:41:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cldh3-0000w6-8s - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:41:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cldh2-0000vu-Qu - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:41:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cldh2-0000vr-Mr - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:41:04 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CldVi-0005mr-Sg - for list; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:29:23 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j041TKZl022441 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) - for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:29:21 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j041TKbN022438 - for list; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:29:20 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:29:20 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2" Subject: Fwd: [Texmacs-dev] Announce: game thoery grapher ---lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 - Cross-forwarding this interesting post. TeXmacs uses scheme as its extension language. Since scheme is a @@ -1194,14 +700,7 @@ evolve) be shared by texmacs and axiom? ----- Forwarded message from Corey Sweeney ----- > From: Corey Sweeney -> Reply-To: Corey Sweeney, -> To: -> Subject: [Texmacs-dev] Announce: game thoery grapher -> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; -> h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; -> b=gqMTzlOWdtHuLx8BXKZZUbbb8e69Bb7H2ABpqxOfkZwSzwmQgcdgZxD0+RLxMLJzwB4qZuc83M5HyGnMSMs/Gm3vtdTW6BxXaCtG55dexcWXRYwYqzzZ06rYj0ORcPWpjFzQ1PdB+JLr9vF0tcrnjcx3M4H0GcUp+dLjLRLyAb8= -> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 -> + > My game grapher for game thoery has gotten to that hackable state, > even though it hasn't been integrated with texmacs yet. I'm still > trying to figure out if i should make it a general grapher, or @@ -1214,75 +713,13 @@ evolve) be shared by texmacs and axiom? > postscript file of what my final graph made today looks like. > > Remeber to read the comments at the top of the file. -> -> Corey - - - -> _______________________________________________ -> Texmacs-dev mailing list -> Texmacs-dev@gnu.org -> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/texmacs-dev - - ------ End forwarded message ----- --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It's not the people who vote that count. 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I'm new to the lisp world, but the Functional PostScript library: @@ -1310,56 +747,12 @@ Bob McElrath wrote: > gcl or one of the more comprehensive lisps that runs axiom? Could then > data structures used by texmacs (and any graphing component it may > evolve) be shared by texmacs and axiom? --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It's not the people who vote that count. 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Hopefully we'll be smarter next time. -t - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClpDN-00010N-G9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:59:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClpDK-0000zz-Ug - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:59:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClpDJ-0000zZ-VK - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:59:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClpDJ-0000zW-So - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:59:09 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.225] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1ClonX-0008IR-Sw - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:32:32 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (steve@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j04BVPiX009512; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 06:31:25 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j04BVPLT009511; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 06:31:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 05:22:52 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <003201c4f203$cbca8f50$6501a8c0@Asus> -Cc: list, Tim Daly - - -Bill, Tim, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. The current makefile system, in my opinion, deserves the title "dirt simple". As a new developer, I have had no problems understanding or @@ -1994,45 +1187,12 @@ On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 09:19:17PM -0500, Bill Page wrote: > all of the modules in a cycle except where the changes actually > fail to propagate (possible in some cases where the dependency > is conditional). -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClpSU-0004o5-Lo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:14:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClpST-0004nt-5g - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:14:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClpSS-0004nT-AW - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:14:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClpSS-0004nQ-7a - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:14:48 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClpE1-0000Jq-LJ - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:59:55 -0500 -Received: from beer.intern ([83.169.131.64]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j04DxjE18415; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 07:59:48 -0600 -To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -From: Tim Daly Jr Date: 05 Jan 2005 15:00:23 +0100 -Cc: list, Tim Daly - +From: Tim Daly Jr +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Bill Page writes: @@ -2063,38 +1223,11 @@ is reached"? If we were using ASDF, I bet we could do it with an around method or something. :) --- --Tim - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClptQ-0003Ak-FW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:42:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClptP-0003AJ-D5 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:42:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClptO-00039p-KN - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:42:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClptO-00039m-GZ - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:42:38 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClpQm-0004pE-7j - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:13:04 -0500 -Received: from beer.intern ([83.169.131.64]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j04ECxE26908; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 08:13:01 -0600 +Date: 05 Jan 2005 15:13:37 +0100 +From: Tim Daly Jr To: Bob McElrath Subject: Re: Fwd: [Texmacs-dev] Announce: game thoery grapher -From: Tim Daly Jr -Date: 05 Jan 2005 15:13:37 +0100 -Cc: list - Bob McElrath writes: @@ -2127,40 +1260,11 @@ in Common Lisp running around. > structures used by texmacs (and any graphing component it may > evolve) be shared by texmacs and axiom? -Amen. - --- --Tim - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clq4d-00072h-RC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:54:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clq4a-00071T-7H - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:54:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clq4Y-00070R-15 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:54:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Clq4X-00070H-TT - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:54:09 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClptG-0005ib-LL - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:42:30 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Clpsu-000696-00; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:42:08 -0500 -To: Kostas Oikonomou -Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: Failure in Solaris 9 build, - patch 23 - <200412310401.iBV414M09819@localhost.localdomain> - -From: Camm Maguire Date: 04 Jan 2005 09:42:08 -0500 -Cc: list, Tim Daly, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Kostas Oikonomou +Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: Failure in Solaris 9 build, patch 23 Greetings, and please excuse my prolonged absence. @@ -2231,52 +1335,12 @@ Kostas Oikonomou writes: > > > > There is a function called |Join| which exceeds the GCL maximum. > > I'm not sure why this shows up for you. -> > -> > Tim -> > -> -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Gcl-devel mailing list -> Gcl-devel@gnu.org -> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gcl-devel -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClqCM-00010x-TD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:02:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClqCL-00010L-5O - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:02:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClqCH-0000yW-Oy - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:02:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClqCH-0000yT-MM - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:02:09 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Clq0s-00083C-F5 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:50:22 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Clq0l-0006HD-00; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:50:15 -0500 +\start +Date: 04 Jan 2005 09:50:15 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Bob McElrath Subject: Re: more graphics - <20050104013611.GC32227@mcelrath.org> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 04 Jan 2005 09:50:15 -0500 -Cc: list Greetings! @@ -2324,94 +1388,24 @@ Bob McElrath writes: > > gcl or one of the more comprehensive lisps that runs axiom? Could then > > data structures used by texmacs (and any graphing component it may > > evolve) be shared by texmacs and axiom? -> -- -> Cheers, -> Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] -> -> "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the -> votes." -- Joseph Stalin -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClqTq-0004pB-QK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:20:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClqTo-0004oQ-Sd - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:20:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClqTn-0004nk-FO - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:20:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClqTn-0004nC-9r - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:20:15 -0500 -Received: from [134.74.86.20] (helo=groups.sci.ccny.cuny.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClqIJ-0005At-Sy - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:08:24 -0500 -Received: from rio.sci.ccny.cuny.edu (rio.sci.ccny.cuny.edu [134.74.120.4]) - by groups.sci.ccny.cuny.edu (8.11.0/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j04FAAv21612; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:10:10 -0500 -Received: (from daly@localhost) - by rio.sci.ccny.cuny.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id j04DvLN24280; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 08:57:21 -0500 +\start Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 08:57:21 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list Subject: uffi -Camm, - I want to lift the socket code from C to lisp in a portable way. Does GCL support uffi? Failing that I'll do it specifically for GCL and then port it to uffi elsewhere. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClsSd-0004lW-N6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:27:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClsSc-0004kY-GG - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:27:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClsSb-0004kB-VO - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:27:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClsSb-0004k0-OV - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:27:09 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClsG6-0002sD-JV - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:14:14 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1ClsG3-0002NV-00; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:14:11 -0500 -To: Kostas Oikonomou -Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: Failure in Solaris 9 build, - patch 23 - <200412310401.iBV414M09819@localhost.localdomain> - - <54fz1hp873.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire Date: 04 Jan 2005 12:14:11 -0500 -Cc: list - -Greetings, and thanks! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Kostas Oikonomou +Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: Failure in Solaris 9 build, patch 23 Am still looking over the details, but am still suspicious of the bfd loading/image saving, as although all your loads appear to work @@ -2458,39 +1452,11 @@ running the lisp commands above. Hope some of this helps. -Take care, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clt7d-0005nN-Ax - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:09:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clt7b-0005nD-Ox - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:09:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clt7b-0005n1-Bv - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:09:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Clt7b-0005my-77 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:09:31 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Clshj-0002zS-IS - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:42:47 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Clshd-0002yB-00; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:42:41 -0500 +\start +Date: 04 Jan 2005 12:42:41 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: uffi -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 04 Jan 2005 12:42:41 -0500 -Cc: list - -Greetings! The short answer is 'not yet'. I'd be happy to assist with any specific C FFI you might need, as GCL's ability, though perhaps not @@ -2507,57 +1473,12 @@ Tim Daly writes: > > Failing that I'll do it specifically for GCL and then port it > to uffi elsewhere. -> -> t -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClvJF-0004tu-HG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:29:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClvJC-0004sf-6c - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:29:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClvJ9-0004re-KT - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:29:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClvJ9-0004qQ-GV - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:29:35 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Clv4m-0000YX-1t - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:14:44 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP - id 13190644845; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:14:43 -0500 (EST) -Received: from fw.drenet.dnd.ca ([131.136.244.253]) - by localhost (smtp.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 57264-05; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:14:32 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP - id 05DB1644852; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:03:48 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:59:05 -0500 +\start +Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:59:01 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Camm Maguire, Tim Daly Subject: RE: uffi -Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:59:01 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list I thought GCL already had socket support built-in? @@ -2586,68 +1507,12 @@ I thought GCL already had socket support built-in? > > > > Failing that I'll do it specifically for GCL and then port it > > to uffi elsewhere. -> > -> > t -> > -> > -> > _______________________________________________ -> > Axiom-developer mailing list -> > list -> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> > -> > -> -> -- -> Camm Maguire -> Camm Maguire -> ============================================================== -> ============ -> "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- -> Baha'u'llah -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clw8e-0003BP-Pl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:22:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clw8d-0003An-KU - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:22:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clw8c-0003AJ-IM - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:22:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Clw8c-0003AE-ER - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:22:46 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Clvom-0004XE-Dz - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:02:17 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP - id AFBA56449CC; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:02:15 -0500 (EST) -Received: from fw.drenet.dnd.ca ([131.136.244.253]) - by localhost (smtp.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 58155-01; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:02:04 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP - id 36ABC644624; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:36:18 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:31:35 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: "'Tim Daly'" Tim Daly + +\start Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:31:30 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list -Subject: RE: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, - bootstrap, fixe d-points etc. +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly +Subject: RE: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixe d-points etc. Tim, @@ -2815,37 +1680,12 @@ philosophy of Axiom and computer mathematics, what is it that we are trying to do if it is not some kind of mental prosthesis? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClxTb-0001sE-Rl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:48:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClxTX-0001nG-Uq - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:48:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClxTW-0001mY-8J - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:48:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClxTW-0001mV-53 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:48:26 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.146.35] (helo=merlin.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClxGg-0003yb-RB - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:35:11 -0500 -Received: by merlin.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 500) - id DAC1E3E988; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:34:51 -0600 (CST) -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 04 Jan 2005 16:34:51 -0600 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - -Hi, - Freshly updated from CVS tree fails to build on an x86-based GNU/Linux with the following error @@ -2867,42 +1707,11 @@ GCC is 3.3.1. Is this a known issue? -Thanks, - --- Gaby - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClxaA-0005VG-1P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:55:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clxa3-0005SP-DU - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:55:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clxa0-0005RN-GL - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:55:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Clxa0-0005Qm-3H - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:55:08 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.101] (helo=pimout2-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClxOc-00067C-Ri - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:43:23 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (161.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.161]) - by pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j04MhBXO387114; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:43:17 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j04NNaQ23196; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:23:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:23:36 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on 04 Jan 2005 16:34:51 -0600) Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build -Cc: list > Is this a known issue? @@ -2911,36 +1720,11 @@ it is now :-) i'll have to check what versions of the compiler i'm using. i'll also check whether ptermio is used. -t - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clxmh-0002Gr-MK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:08:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clxmf-0002Fx-Cy - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:08:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clxme-0002FU-LW - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:08:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) - id 1ClxmZ-0002Dz-Rj; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:08:09 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.102] (helo=pimout3-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1ClxSc-000712-Fq; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:47:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (161.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.161]) - by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j04MlMHg243232; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:47:27 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j04NRwU23200; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:27:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:27:58 -0500 From: Tim Daly -To: list, axiom-mail@nongnu.org -Cc: +To: list Subject: call for speakers City College is having an Axiom conference to introduce the world @@ -2949,36 +1733,10 @@ like to hear from you. The conference is a 1 day event on April 22 in NYC. Some funding is available so if you'd like to visit NYC in the spring this is the time to suggest a presentation. -Send email to Tim Daly. - -Tim Daly - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clxo6-0002Yz-G3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:09:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clxo4-0002YS-1j - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:09:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Clxo2-0002Xn-Qj - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:09:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Clxo2-0002Xk-K0 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:09:38 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Clxck-0001Gw-3M - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:57:58 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j04MvfKe018078; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:57:41 -0600 +Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:57:41 -0600 From: MathAction (root) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:57:41 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Axiom-mail] call for speakers City College is having an Axiom conference to introduce the world @@ -2987,49 +1745,11 @@ like to hear from you. The conference is a 1 day event on April 22 in NYC. Some funding is available so if you'd like to visit NYC in the spring this is the time to suggest a presentation. -Send email to Tim Daly. - -Tim Daly - - -_______________________________________________ -Axiom-mail mailing list -Axiom-mail@nongnu.org -http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-mail - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomMail#msg200501042327.j04NRwU23200@localhost.localdomain - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm006-0008IA-4E - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:30:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm003-0008HE-LO - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:30:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm001-0008GF-Qg - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:30:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cm001-0008G5-OB - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:30:09 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Clzom-00077r-GJ - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:18:32 -0500 -Received: from unix.cs.tamu.edu (unix.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.13]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j051IFaH001774; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:18:15 -0600 (CST) -Received: from localhost (gdr@localhost) - by unix.cs.tamu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id j051IDK07469; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:18:15 -0600 (CST) +\start Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:18:13 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - <200501042323.j04NNaQ23196@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, root wrote: @@ -3067,46 +1787,11 @@ so: Correcting (1) as indicated led to a successful compilation. The whole axiom build is still underway. -Thanks, - --- Gaby - - -I - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm0gz-0003b9-Vm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:14:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm0gx-0003Yj-Kz - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:14:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm0gv-0003XD-Hr - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:14:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cm0gu-0003Ws-Pq - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:14:29 -0500 -Received: from [62.212.99.186] (helo=uniton.integrable-solutions.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cm0HX-0005Fj-5Z - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:48:15 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id j051lqRB010696; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 02:47:52 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - j051lqZa010695; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 02:47:52 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 05 Jan 2005 02:47:52 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - <200501042323.j04NNaQ23196@localhost.localdomain> - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Jan 2005 02:47:52 +0100 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -3118,45 +1803,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: I can confirm successful build, installation and several testing on an x86-based GNU/Linux (gcc-3.3.1, glibc-2.3.2-88). -Thanks, - --- Gaby - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm1yW-0003Df-Da - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:36:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm1yS-0003Ax-8f - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:36:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm1yO-00038T-J1 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:36:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cm1yO-00038K-Ek - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:36:36 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.102] (helo=pimout3-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cm1n7-0000qd-P7 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:24:57 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (161.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.161]) - by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j053OdHg414400; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:24:43 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0544nw23591; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:04:49 -0500 +\start Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:04:49 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 05 Jan 2005 02:47:52 +0100) Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - <200501042323.j04NNaQ23196@localhost.localdomain> - - -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Gabriel, hmm, can you do me a favor and try the following: @@ -3177,41 +1828,11 @@ would fail at the include step. In fact, it would be interesting to see the output of the gcc -E edible.c line. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm29c-0005jQ-OH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:48:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm29b-0005jL-O4 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:48:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm29b-0005j9-Bf - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:48:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cm29b-0005j6-8x - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:48:11 -0500 -Received: from [62.212.99.186] (helo=uniton.integrable-solutions.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cm1xn-0002zI-Sl - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:36:00 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id j053ZfRB011287; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 04:35:42 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - j053ZfOt011286; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 04:35:41 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 05 Jan 2005 04:35:41 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - <200501042323.j04NNaQ23196@localhost.localdomain> - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Jan 2005 04:35:41 +0100 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -3252,41 +1873,11 @@ No, not better ;-/ That is inverted: it is 'struct termio' (current code) that should be 'struct termios'. --- Gaby - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2Ck-0007mM-4L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:51:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2Ch-0007kP-I9 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:51:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2Cg-0007jn-HU - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:51:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cm2Cg-0007jc-9B - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:51:22 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.101] (helo=pimout2-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cm212-0003vv-Kb - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:39:22 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (161.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.161]) - by pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j053d6XO313020; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:39:11 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j054JXb23614; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:19:33 -0500 +\start Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:19:33 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 05 Jan 2005 02:47:52 +0100) Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - <200501042323.j04NNaQ23196@localhost.localdomain> - - -Cc: list, Tim Daly Gabriel, @@ -3310,43 +1901,11 @@ and the termios code is protected by still checking.... -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2LE-00014n-6Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:00:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2LC-00014A-IV - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:00:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2LB-00013Y-Tf - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:00:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cm2LB-00013G-Qp - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:00:09 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.77] (helo=pimout1-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cm29u-0006SD-O3 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:48:30 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (161.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.161]) - by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j053mBjb291364; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:48:16 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j054SmH23630; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:28:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:28:48 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 05 Jan 2005 04:35:41 +0100) Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - <200501042323.j04NNaQ23196@localhost.localdomain> - - -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Gabriel, Ok. I'm closer. I was working on a BSD port at the time and it is likely that @@ -3355,33 +1914,7 @@ BSD wants termio while linux wants termios. Can you modify the pamphlet file back to the original form, type make, and send me the console log? -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2hf-000852-0A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:23:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2hd-00084f-5J - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:23:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2hc-00084E-Ev - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:23:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cm2hc-000848-Bl - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:23:20 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.102] (helo=pimout3-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cm2KG-0000Bo-FL - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:59:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (161.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.161]) - by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j053xBHg383256 - for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:59:11 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j054dbr23657; - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:39:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:39:37 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: list @@ -3398,43 +1931,11 @@ http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=762&group_id=1#os_reference Perhaps we need to exploit this resource, especially for the *BSD, MAC, and Solaris efforts. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2nI-00026q-1j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:29:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2nF-00025P-KG - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:29:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2nD-000249-F1 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:29:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cm2nD-00022v-87 - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:29:07 -0500 -Received: from [62.212.99.186] (helo=uniton.integrable-solutions.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cm2al-00041z-KI - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:16:16 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id j054FuRB011426; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 05:15:57 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - j054FuDI011425; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 05:15:56 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 05 Jan 2005 05:15:56 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - <200501042323.j04NNaQ23196@localhost.localdomain> - - - <200501050419.j054JXb23614@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Jan 2005 05:15:56 +0100 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -3519,86 +2020,21 @@ prefixed with AXIOM_ ... I hope the above helps. -Thanks, - -=-- Gaby - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2zv-0004aD-K5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:42:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2zu-0004Zz-AP - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:42:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm2zt-0004Zc-Iz - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:42:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cm2zt-0004ZZ-Gc - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:42:13 -0500 -Received: from [207.115.63.102] (helo=pimout3-ext.prodigy.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cm2oQ-0006vO-Fl - for list; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:30:22 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (161.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.161]) - by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id - j054U7Hg151992; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:30:11 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j055AX523708; - Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:10:33 -0500 +\start Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:10:33 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 05 Jan 2005 05:15:56 +0100) Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - <200501042323.j04NNaQ23196@localhost.localdomain> - - - <200501050419.j054JXb23614@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, Tim Daly your tracking is helping a lot. keep up the good work. i can't track it here because it works here. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm7G2-0006EH-Sr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 04:15:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm7G0-0006Cb-Ee - for list; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 04:15:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cm7Fx-0006AD-8h - for list; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 04:15:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cm7Fw-00069r-UQ - for list; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 04:15:05 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cm74Z-0000Rn-M9 - for list; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 04:03:21 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 303DA6444F8; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 04:03:19 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 1F1E6644504; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 04:03:08 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 03:58:25 -0500 +Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 03:58:16 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 03:58:16 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list Subject: axiom--windows--1--patch-11 -Tim, - As per our discussion offline, I have committed a new patch for the windows branch that moves the awk script from the src/Makefile.pamphlet to the src/algebra/Makefile.pamphlet @@ -3673,42 +2109,11 @@ and hyperdoc - hopefully one that is more easily portable between linux and windows. Are there any developers out there who have some experience with this? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmBKB-00030B-5b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:35:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmBK9-0002yP-4b - for list; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:35:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmBK8-0002xi-8r - for list; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:35:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CmBK8-0002xX-3H - for list; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:35:40 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CmB8q-0004Tz-OK - for list; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:24:00 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 37A2E644553; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:24:00 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 2EF9C644529; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:23:49 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:19:06 -0500 +Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:19:02 -0500 From: Bill Page To: list -Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:19:02 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: "'Tim Daly'" Tim Daly -Subject: RE: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, - bootstrap, fixe d-points etc. +Subject: RE: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixe d-points etc. Axiom Developers; @@ -3736,107 +2141,10 @@ http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/Plone You will be able to edit the contents of the pages and experiment with the example programs. -Cheers, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmaND-0006aP-RN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:20:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmaNA-0006Yl-MO - for list; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:20:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmaN9-0006YJ-Nt - for list; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:20:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmaN6-0006X2-Sa; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:20:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CmaBR-0006nb-Tb; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:08:22 -0500 -Received: from [68.239.152.213] - (helo=pool-68-239-152-213.nwrk.east.verizon.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Cma5q-0002SF-Ti; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:02:37 -0500 -Received: from maudlin (HELO lab.accesogold.com) (0.159.67.175) - by ppp06-slot74-sys7000-7.via-net-works.net with SMTP; - Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:58:18 +0600 -Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:57:18 +0400 -From: "Eugenia Corbin - " -To: and@nongnu.org -Cc: babe-coredevel@nongnu.org, annif-dev@nongnu.org, ant-phone-devel@nongnu.org, - list -Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Impress_her_with_a_Rolex_=95_do?= - =?iso-8859-1?q?e?= - - - - -

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- - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cmk3O-0003DI-Le - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:40:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cmk3M-0003D0-P4 - for list; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:40:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cmk3M-0003Ck-AE - for list; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:40:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) - id 1Cmk3L-0003CT-MB; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:40:39 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CmjrX-0002zF-Fu; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:28:27 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j072SME02331; - Thu, 6 Jan 2005 20:28:22 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0738xM32315; - Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:08:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:08:59 -0500 From: Tim Daly -To: list, axiom-math@nongnu.org -Cc: +To: list Subject: mail outage My outgoing mail has disappeared into the void for the last two days. @@ -3848,39 +2156,11 @@ I can also be reached as Tim Daly Hopefully the problem is fixed. -Tim Daly -Tim Daly -Tim Daly - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmpCh-000843-7I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 03:10:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmpCf-00083F-GE - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 03:10:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmpCe-00082v-Lr - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 03:10:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CmpCe-00082k-EJ - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 03:10:36 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.184] (helo=tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cmp10-0006uJ-QV - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 02:58:35 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.45]) by tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050107075825.FZTA1919.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 02:58:25 -0500 +\start +Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 02:58:45 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 02:58:45 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list -Subject: RE: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. +Subject: RE: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Tim, @@ -3973,8 +2253,8 @@ echo "Axiom Fixed Point Build" | tee fixedPoint.log # extracted from the *.spad.pamphlet files=20 # linux or windows -export AXIOM=3D`pwd`/mnt/linux -export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +export AXIOM=`pwd`/mnt/linux +export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH make clean make @@ -3984,7 +2264,7 @@ make # all of the int/algebra/*.spad files to force a complete # re-compilation. -level=3D1 +level=1 # The initial bootstrap *.lsp files are overwritten @@ -4005,7 +2285,7 @@ while ! cmp2boot>>fixedPoint.log; do # Differences are written to a log, then we repeat # the above steps if necessary - level=3D$((level+1)) + level=$((level+1)) mv2boot touch int/algebra/*.spad make @@ -4034,9 +2314,9 @@ $ cat cmp2boot # bootstrap lisp files. It outputs any differences and # returns status 1 or 0 if there are no differences. -error=3D0 +error=0 for i in int/algebra/*.NRLIB/code.lsp; do - if ! diff -au ${i/.NRLIB\/code/} $i; then error=3D1; fi + if ! diff -au ${i/.NRLIB\/code/} $i; then error=1; fi done exit $error @@ -4048,44 +2328,11 @@ I have made any logical errors here? If you have a machine to spare, I would be very interested to see if you get the same results. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmqF9-00054t-9L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 04:17:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmqCC-0004LA-Ub - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 04:14:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) - id 1CmqCA-0004KR-4i - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 04:14:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CmqC9-0004Jl-VG - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 04:14:10 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.4] (helo=tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cmq0I-0001ui-My - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 04:01:57 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.45]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050107090115.ZBWB1836.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 04:01:15 -0500 +Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 04:01:32 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 04:01:32 -0500 - boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C4F46D.95D7D8A0" -Cc: list - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - -------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C4F46D.95D7D8A0 - charset="US-ASCII" +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Friday, January 07, 2005 2:59 AM I wrote: > ... @@ -4981,42 +3228,11 @@ DOUmtJQbZig33FBucCCkhoPKTUqyNacnVG4Q6fAmZkpamMoKszUdrdFUuleWmFlSU7nJ9ACgSJ+C boaKDvZQqj3MVG5I08kj+hRfQrkh1SRJpXKTraHcJFRDur5yY6hQmavR5EVgKTcyL5Ja6FVucsBO YSk3UQfl5sGDB88XsCyJ2S+eA/5v/z9yoDrm3HEFAA== -------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C4F46D.95D7D8A0-- - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmvlc-0001kP-Cz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:11:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmvla-0001k8-KI - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:11:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmvla-0001jw-2a - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:11:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmvlZ-0001jt-Vs - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:11:06 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.225] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CmvaB-0004dO-TK - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:59:20 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j07Ex18O006133; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:59:01 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j07Ex1eg006132; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:59:01 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:59:01 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <003901c4f497$7eade0a0$6501a8c0@Asus> -Cc: list, Tim Daly - My original message was rejected my the mailing list server as being too large due to the archive file mentioned below. Attached is the @@ -5200,52 +3416,12 @@ On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 04:01:32AM -0500, Bill Page wrote: > > I have attached the fixedPoint.log.gz file containing the diffs > for iteration 1. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. - -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmvre-0004Tk-Pe - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:17:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmvrd-0004TL-Fw - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:17:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmvrc-0004T2-PP - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:17:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cmvrc-0004Sz-Kv - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:17:20 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cmvg1-0005w0-9q - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:05:21 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j07F5JE24025; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:05:19 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j07FjoQ00596; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:45:51 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:45:51 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson, Bill Page - Wilson on Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:46:57 -0500) Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <003901c4f497$7eade0a0$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050107144657.GA5672@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list - -Bill, Steve, This is very interesting. It may be caused by the fact that the build occurs with old databases but I can't be sure. If you copy @@ -5257,43 +3433,11 @@ I'm already pushing several other large problems, some of which have deadlines of this week and next. Please let me know what you find. Keep me in the loop as I may know things that can help. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmvzI-0007KJ-1G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:25:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmvzF-0007J6-N4 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:25:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmvzF-0007Id-2p - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:25:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmvzE-0007IS-U0 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:25:12 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cmvn3-0007bV-SZ - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:12:38 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j07FCaE28048; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:12:36 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j07Fr8H00602; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:53:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:53:08 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson, Bill Page - Wilson on Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:46:57 -0500) Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <003901c4f497$7eade0a0$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050107144657.GA5672@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list - -Bill, Steve, Note that the original databases are the NAG versions and the actual algebra code has been improved since that time. Modifying the algebra @@ -5303,39 +3447,11 @@ domains which use it will have different index values. The database build is done after the algebra is compiled and should reflect the actual algebra whereas the original databases may not. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwDC-0005Ro-2u - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:39:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwDA-0005RL-Dw - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:39:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwD9-0005Qs-EQ - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:39:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmwD9-0005Qi-C6 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:39:35 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.4] (helo=tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cmw15-0002rd-Sj - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:27:08 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.83]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050107152704.BEXW1836.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:27:04 -0500 +Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:27:21 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Stephen Wilson -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:27:21 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Steve, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Thanks for the quick first steps at analsis of these results. Obviously it is going to take some time to fully understand @@ -5381,42 +3497,11 @@ On Friday, January 07, 2005 9:59 AM Stephen Wilson wrote: > lisp files. > ... - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwQF-0002C6-IR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:53:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwQE-0002Bt-HN - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:53:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwQD-0002BZ-JH - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:53:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmwQD-0002BV-GH - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:53:05 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CmwEp-0006Gv-Rh - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:41:20 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j07FfHE14003; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:41:17 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j07GLpc00626; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:21:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:21:51 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson, Bill Page - Wilson on Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:46:57 -0500) Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <003901c4f497$7eade0a0$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050107144657.GA5672@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list - -Bill, Steve, Gentle reminder. If you're going to decode the format of the code.lsp files it would be helpful to document them. You'll @@ -5425,40 +3510,11 @@ files is tied to the number and types of the arguments to the function. This documentation will be useful as part of the compiler and as a way to understand the databases. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwWX-0006Nt-Np - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:59:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwWV-0006Mf-El - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:59:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwWU-0006MS-R6 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:59:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmwWU-0006MP-Ph - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:59:34 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.54] (helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CmwKw-0007kI-HL - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:47:38 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.83]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050107154736.CCMB19622.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:47:36 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: Tim Daly, - -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:47:54 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Tim, Steve, +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly, Stephen Wilson +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. This looks like very good circumstantial evidence and a possible theory about the differences in the 1st iteration .lsp files that @@ -5482,15 +3538,6 @@ Regards, Bill Page. > -----Original Message----- -> From: root [mailto:Tim Daly] -> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:53 AM -> To: Stephen Wilson; Bill Page -> Cc: list -> Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with -> explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -> -> -> Bill, Steve, > > Note that the original databases are the NAG versions and the actual > algebra code has been improved since that time. Modifying the algebra @@ -5499,127 +3546,33 @@ Bill Page. > domains which use it will have different index values. The database > build is done after the algebra is compiled and should reflect the > actual algebra whereas the original databases may not. -> -> t -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwmG-0004qm-T0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:15:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwmF-0004p8-2N - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:15:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmwmD-0004nk-RM - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:15:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmwmD-0004nD-CE - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:15:49 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cmwag-0003Bi-VF - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:03:55 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j07G3qE28800; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:03:53 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j07GiOT00652; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:44:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:44:24 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson, Bill Page - Wilson on Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:46:57 -0500) Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <003901c4f497$7eade0a0$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050107144657.GA5672@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list - -Bill, Steve, In general I used to "copy back" the database from a successful build into the seed databases. I haven't implemented that machinery yet. If this turns out to fix the problem that Bill has found then we need to modify the makefiles to take this step. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmxYU-0007No-Mn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:05:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmxYS-0007K2-9s - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:05:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmxYR-0007J2-BJ - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:05:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmxYQ-0007I6-Oy - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:05:38 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CmxMh-0005jZ-Pf - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:53:32 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j07GrTE28467; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:53:29 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j07HY2h00948; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:34:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:34:02 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - Wilson on Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:46:57 -0500) Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <003901c4f497$7eade0a0$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050107144657.GA5672@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list - -Bill, I see you've been busy with the --windows branch. I'm starting to merge the windows changes into --main so we can get them out as part of the february release. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmxpM-0007BH-0h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:23:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmxpK-0007Ax-0T - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:23:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmxpJ-0007Ae-AK - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:23:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmxpJ-0007Ab-8U - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:23:05 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.188] (helo=tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cmxds-0001Gy-Ns - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:11:16 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.83]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050107171106.BQMS25979.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:11:06 -0500 +Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:11:26 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:11:26 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Tim, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. What is your opinion about the most recent --windows (patch-11) changes to the src/algebra/Makefile.pamphlet? @@ -5633,62 +3586,17 @@ the lines that you suggested. Do you agree that we can use these sort of implicit and generated stanza's in the axiom--main--1 'make' files? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - > -----Original Message----- -> From: root [mailto:Tim Daly] -> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:34 PM -> To: Bill Page -> Cc: list -> Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with -> explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -> -> -> Bill, > > I see you've been busy with the --windows branch. I'm starting to > merge the windows changes into --main so we can get them out as > part of the february release. -> -> t -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmy5o-0004rK-1a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:40:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmy5l-0004r0-Hy - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:40:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmy5k-0004qo-Sr - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:40:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cmy5k-0004ql-HZ - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:40:04 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CmxuH-0004hB-8H - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:28:13 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j07HS9E19047; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:28:09 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j07I8ZO01012; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:08:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:08:35 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Bill, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. I guess my comments on this were one of the lost emails. @@ -5707,40 +3615,12 @@ so we can get them out to the public cvs in the february release. To do that we need to merge as soon as possible so we can test the changes and fix things. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmyLk-0004ZQ-IE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:56:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmyLj-0004ZD-If - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:56:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmyLi-0004Ye-B5 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:56:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmyLi-0004Yb-81 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:56:34 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cmy9v-0007xE-Ie - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:44:23 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j07HiLE29108 - for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:44:21 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j07IOsW01031; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:24:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:24:54 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: user feedback - I don't use TeXmacs so I'm not familiar with his issues here but we need to fix these... @@ -5799,37 +3679,11 @@ Can you clarify what's going on and if possible put me back on the road to wisdom?. BTW I am using Win-XP, professional, if that is of any importance. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmyNJ-0004lp-5B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:58:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmyNI-0004li-0U - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:58:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmyNH-0004lW-K5 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:58:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmyNH-0004lT-Hf - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:58:11 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.25] (helo=tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CmyBo-0008FT-SI - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:46:21 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.47]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050107174619.KTP2026.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:46:19 -0500 +Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:46:32 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:46:32 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Tim, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. What is your opinion about the most recent --windows (patch-11) changes to the src/algebra/Makefile.pamphlet? @@ -5843,63 +3697,18 @@ the lines that you suggested. Do you agree that we can use these sort of implicit and generated stanza's in the axiom--main--1 'make' files? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - > -----Original Message----- -> From: root [mailto:Tim Daly] -> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:34 PM -> To: Bill Page -> Cc: list -> Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with -> explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -> -> -> Bill, -> + > I see you've been busy with the --windows branch. I'm starting to > merge the windows changes into --main so we can get them out as > part of the february release. -> -> t -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmykv-0005wU-0e - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmykt-0005wK-In - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmykt-0005w8-0Z - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cmyks-0005w5-Tm - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:22:34 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CmyZF-0004RK-Nl - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:10:33 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j07IALE13944; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:10:21 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j07IotY01049; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:50:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:50:55 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Edward Grossman - Grossman on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:41:11 -0500) -Cc: list Subject: Re: axiom for windows -Ed, - The axiom version that exists on windows is still in alpha form and is somewhat behind the linux version. Some of your difficulties are due to this and some are just things we need to fix and document. @@ -6013,39 +3822,11 @@ Gilbert is looking to develop a linear algebra course that uses the browser technology with axiom as an experiment. That is also "in process" and not yet ready to show. -Tim - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmyrv-0006h3-4C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:29:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmyrq-0006fg-2e - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:29:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cmyro-0006f2-FT - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:29:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cmyro-0006ec-C3 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:29:44 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.34] (helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CmyfR-0005gP-6Z - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:16:57 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.47]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050107181651.SVFJ1899.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:16:51 -0500 +Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:17:09 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: user feedback -Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:17:09 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Tim, Is this anonymous user reading this list? If not, please forward my comments below to them. @@ -6220,34 +4001,9 @@ online material if/when they gain a better understanding. This will help other windows users. That is what Open Source is all about! -Cheers, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmzCy-0000Ln-Fk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:51:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmzCw-0000Lg-K0 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:51:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmzCw-0000LU-7d - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:51:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmzCw-0000LR-3J - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:51:34 -0500 -Received: from [32.97.166.32] (helo=prserv.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cmz1Q-0001dP-LX - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:39:40 -0500 -Received: from [127.0.0.1] (slip-12-64-141-16.mis.prserv.net[12.64.141.16]) - by attglobal.net (out2) with ESMTP - id <2005010718391020205gbs02e>; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 18:39:13 +0000 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:38:53 -0500 From: Eugene Surowitz - rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 To: list Subject: TeX for TeXmacs for Axiom @@ -6266,83 +4022,22 @@ Also the executable has probably been modified to take these into account. If TeXmacs needs TeX, then it may be that they (TeXmacs) or us (Axiom) needs to provide user/installers a heads-up for the MS Windows case. -Eugene Surowitz - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmzHo-0002Yr-R5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:56:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmzHn-0002XM-Iy - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:56:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CmzHn-0002Wp-4J - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:56:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CmzHm-0002Wk-V4 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:56:35 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cmz63-0002hV-Bh - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:44:27 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j07IiOE03692; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:44:24 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j07JOwO01085; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:24:58 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:24:58 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Eugene Surowitz - Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:38:53 -0500) Subject: Re: TeX for TeXmacs for Axiom -Cc: list - -Eugene, I'm unfamiliar with either PCTeX or "style activation protocols". Perhaps you could write up a couple paragraphs that we could add to the documentation about this. I'm unable to do it as I don't have the tools or environment. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn2GL-0007Vi-Rp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:07:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn2GI-0007Us-N1 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:07:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn2GH-0007US-JC - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:07:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn2GG-0007Tt-Vd - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:07:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn24j-0007x5-Bv - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:55:17 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.74] (helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn1I7-0005m6-GE - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:05:03 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.189]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050107210459.WSVG2034.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:04:59 -0500 +Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:05:19 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Eugene Surowitz Subject: RE: TeX for TeXmacs for Axiom -Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:05:19 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Eugene Surowitz, TeX is not required for the TeXmacs for Windows version. It has many TeX fonts already built-in. But to get a @@ -6380,54 +4075,12 @@ Bill Page. > If TeXmacs needs TeX, then it may be that they (TeXmacs) > or us (Axiom) needs to provide user/installers a heads-up > for the MS Windows case. -> -> Eugene Surowitz -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn2mG-0004t8-Br - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:40:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn2mD-0004qN-Ft - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:40:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn2mC-0004pa-T0 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:40:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn2mB-0004pJ-MC - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:40:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn268-00088Z-Tf - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:56:45 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.74] (helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn1F0-0005Zy-7n - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:01:50 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.189]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050107210143.WRRA2034.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:01:43 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: Tim Daly, - -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:02:02 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Tim, Steve, +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly, Stephen Wilson +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Well we still have the problem. I have updated the database files (which probably needed updating anyway), but the @@ -6457,42 +4110,11 @@ On Friday, January 07, 2005 10:48 AM I wrote: > Now I am re-running the fixedPoint to see if the differences > disappear. I will let you know in a few hours. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn35m-0002C9-WB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:00:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn35N-00024U-MY - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:00:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn359-0001uS-VX - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:59:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn359-0001tS-9o - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:59:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn2rh-0001rr-Re - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:45:54 -0500 -Received: from [216.136.172.17] (helo=web12210.mail.yahoo.com) - by mx20.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn0h2-0002u7-HN - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 15:26:44 -0500 -Received: (qmail 70593 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2005 20:26:43 -0000 -Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - b=i48fGaZi/zlRrTs9F/VnJ36EjWGrjIncqE5Y3njY/wEr3Z7XSv7K318S/ofcQsTmb2ehSh9XrL6YwwolDHZwwSFXkqeGD5ajGo/n1M8igNM+TjyPlbCaWqSpwWemALhju7PHu4qeLqE8fFo4McI9uPOa1gbDU6E9aeWwLSvIDGo= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.204] by web12210.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:26:43 PST Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:26:43 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: axiom for windows To: Tim Daly, Edward Grossman -Cc: list - +Subject: re: axiom for windows --- Tim Daly wrote: @@ -6596,93 +4218,21 @@ graphs from formulas. Cool. An online course or a live one? -CY - - - -__________________________________ -Do you Yahoo!? -Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. -http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn48A-0006Ed-TB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:06:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn47w-0006C3-De - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:06:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn47q-000690-1Y - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:06:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn47n-00066K-PZ - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:06:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn3sh-0004OB-57 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:50:59 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn2Qs-0003i4-7E - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:18:10 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j07MI5E21686; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:18:05 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j07MwdG01219; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:58:39 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:58:39 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Bill, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Are any of the "different" files in the bootstrap list? Perhaps one of the BOOTSTRAP lisp stanzas is outdated? If this were so then the recompile might propagate changes. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn4Ce-00083K-Nn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:11:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn4Ca-00082g-DZ - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:11:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn4CY-00082N-RZ - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:11:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn4Aw-00072p-4q - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:09:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn3kP-0002yd-Vo - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:42:26 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.25] (helo=tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn2A8-0002Gd-Sh - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:00:53 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.97]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050107220051.DBJK2026.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:00:51 -0500 +Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:59:42 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:59:42 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Tim, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Although technically it probably doesn't matter, but as far as I can tell from the email archives, the version @@ -6712,15 +4262,6 @@ Regards, Bill Page. > -----Original Message----- -> From: root [mailto:Tim Daly] -> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:53 AM -> To: Stephen Wilson; Bill Page -> Cc: list -> Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with -> explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -> -> -> Bill, Steve, > > Note that the original databases are the NAG versions and the actual > algebra code has been improved since that time. Modifying the algebra @@ -6729,95 +4270,21 @@ Bill Page. > domains which use it will have different index values. The database > build is done after the algebra is compiled and should reflect the > actual algebra whereas the original databases may not. -> -> t -> - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn4Ef-0000HN-Gq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:13:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn4Ea-0000Gr-K1 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:13:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn4EY-0000G5-55 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:13:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn4EX-0000DM-Cr - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:13:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn42j-0006p5-MQ - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:01:21 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn2RX-0003ks-C0 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:18:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j07MIlE22232; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:18:47 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j07MxMC01223; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:59:22 -0500 + +\start Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:59:22 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Bill, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Please send me a diff of a file that is changed and I'll look at it. I may flash on what the problem is. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn4et-0007V4-Hr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:40:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn4es-0007UJ-61 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:40:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn4er-0007TU-32 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:40:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn4eq-0007TP-Vt - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:40:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn434-0006vq-JS - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:01:43 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn2bh-0005D7-G7 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:29:21 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j07MT9Ji019045 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:29:09 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j07MT97i019042; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:29:09 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:29:09 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: user feedback - list - <001c01c4f4e5$1d760b20$6501a8c0@Asus> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" -Cc: list, Tim Daly - - ---DocE+STaALJfprDB Bill Page [Bill Page] wrote: > I would be very pleased to receive suggested changes to the text @@ -6839,55 +4306,11 @@ come out tonight, then I have to merge my newstx work and release that (probably in 0.38 -- Feb 1), and then, hopefully, I can concentrate on axiom or adding pamphlet support. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the - votes." -- Joseph Stalin - ---DocE+STaALJfprDB - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB3w01jwioWRGe9K0RAtqkAKDj/lgAhvFH2340+wdwJiMsLo0Z7QCgzaC3 -L20RJi4s9kl1pxoE2b7jA6s= -=IrzE ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---DocE+STaALJfprDB-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn8Dx-0001PV-KV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 23:29:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn8Dv-0001OI-97 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 23:29:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn8Dp-0001MQ-S5 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 23:29:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn8Dp-0001Ke-F1 - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 23:29:05 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn7zT-0000aQ-Np - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 23:14:15 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j084E9E03961; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 22:14:09 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j084si001662; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:54:44 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:54:44 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. The lisp code in the BOOTSTRAP files (for the most part) has been pretty-printed. Since the NRLIB .lsp files are @@ -6933,43 +4356,11 @@ recompiled and have a new slot number. So changes to A don't propagate quite the way I think you mean. What you will find is that a bunch of magic integers have changed. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn8od-0004ja-Id - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:07:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn8oV-0004eX-0G - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:06:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cn8oN-0004YL-Ds - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:06:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn8oM-0004XM-No - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:06:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn8b0-0002wX-Ez - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 23:53:02 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.34] (helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn7eC-000473-Kp - for list; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 22:52:16 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.85.112]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050108035022.XTDR1899.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 22:50:22 -0500 +Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 22:50:43 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 22:50:43 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Tim, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. No, NONE of the files with changes in the lisp code on the 1st iteration are on the bootstrap list. Here's the list: @@ -7072,82 +4463,22 @@ Bill Page. > -----Original Message----- -> From: root [mailto:Tim Daly] -> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:59 PM -> To: Bill Page -> Cc: Tim Daly; list; Stephen Wilson -> Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with -> explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -> -> -> Bill, > > Are any of the "different" files in the bootstrap list? > Perhaps one of the BOOTSTRAP lisp stanzas is outdated? > If this were so then the recompile might propagate changes. -> -> t -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnDqU-0007YK-Pc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:29:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnDqB-0007Tl-0X - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:29:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnDq6-0007RJ-33 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:28:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnDq5-0007Qw-S4 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:28:57 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnDe0-0003nh-Ih - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:16:28 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j08AGIMw069328 - for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:16:21 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:14:30 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: list Subject: February Release -Dear all, - I'd like to apologize, since I promised some things to be ready for February, but I probably won't make it. Baby II is arriving and its end of term, all at once :-) -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnE8g-0004Ud-Bz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:48:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnE8d-0004Td-08 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:48:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnE8b-0004T8-Do - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:48:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnE8b-0004T5-7Z - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:48:05 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnDuv-0005zB-RG - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:33:58 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 74BAC1068CC; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:33:54 +0200 (EET) -Received: from cybertester (dialin142.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.142]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753A51068AF - for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:33:53 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:34:08 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list @@ -7175,53 +4506,11 @@ reports #4551 ... #11370. files like old fixed.input, r2-0abug.input, test.input, r21bugs.input etc? - -Much thanks for any help or hint in advance. - - -Best wishes, - -Vladimir Bondarenko - -http://www.cybertester.com/ -http://maple.bug-list.org/ -http://www.CAS-testing.org/ - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnFME-0000e2-2p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:06:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnFMC-0000dv-Pf - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:06:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnFMC-0000dj-5N - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:06:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnFMC-0000dg-10 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:06:12 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.225] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CnF8z-0006yV-Gh - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 06:52:34 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j08BqK4I014953; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 06:52:20 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j08BqKGC014952; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 06:52:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 06:52:20 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <002101c4f4fc$24e1cbd0$6501a8c0@Asus> -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Bill, Tim, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. I have built first-iteration and second-iteration axioms. An identical fixedPoint.log was produced. I have been examining the domain @@ -7555,41 +4844,11 @@ primelt.spad, PRIMELT identical 55: (newGoGet # 160 . numberOfMonomials) ... - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnG3V-00030F-C9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:50:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnG2o-0002wt-CJ - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:50:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnG2T-0002p2-CJ - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:49:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnG2S-0002kq-Vv - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:49:53 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.225] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CnFcB-0001cD-H1 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:22:43 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j08CMSJS015032; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 07:22:28 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j08CMR2Z015031; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 07:22:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 07:22:27 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <002101c4f4fc$24e1cbd0$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050108115220.GA14909@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list, Tim Daly - - +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Sorry, Im not organized this morn'. The code I listed references INBFF, in ffnb.spad (the domain vectors do differ in this case, but @@ -7606,84 +4865,29 @@ On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 06:52:20AM -0500, Stephen Wilson wrote: > (1) -> (trace |eval|) > ... -Cheers, -Steve - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnIrI-0004vL-L7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:50:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnIqp-0004qp-K2 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:50:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnIql-0004n5-03 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:50:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnIqk-0004jv-3D - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:49:58 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnIYN-0003xw-3G - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:30:59 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j08FUtE02467; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 09:30:55 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j08GBRp02160; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:11:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:11:27 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey - Rubey on Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:14:30 +0100) Subject: Re: February Release -Cc: list - -Martin, There are certain things that can reasonably be prioritized above working on Axiom :-) Congrats. Hope everything works out ok. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnJkm-0001za-J8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:47:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnJkb-0001vm-6g - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:47:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnJkO-0001ps-OZ - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:47:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnJkO-0001lZ-Kt - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:47:28 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.112] (helo=mail-yellow.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnJL3-0000tK-Ax - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:21:17 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j08GLGN15086 - for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:21:16 -0500 (EST) -To: "Axiom developers" Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:20:05 -0500 +To: list From: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified - I just discovered that the problem I reported a few days ago is caused by the function "get-NAG-chapter" in "util.lisp". Here is a test file "bug.lisp": -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +======================== (setq ch "c02") (setq fl '("LOADNAG" "|c02aff|" "|c02agf|" "|c05adf|" "|c05nbf|" "|c05pbf|" "|c0= @@ -7700,7 +4904,7 @@ bdf|" "|e02bef|" "|e02daf|" "|e02dcf|" "|e02ddf|" "|e02def|" "|e02dff|" "= |" "|e04naf|" "|e04ucf|" "|e04ycf|" "|f01brf|" "|f01bsf|" "|f01maf|" "|f0= 1mcf|" "|f01qcf|" "|f01qdf|" "|f01qef|" "|f01rcf|" "|f01rdf|" "|f01ref|" = "|f02aaf|" "|f02abf|" "|f02adf|" "|f02ae! -f|" =20 +f|" "|f02aff|" "|f02agf|" "|f02ajf|" "|f02akf|" "|f02awf|" "|f02axf|" "|f02bb= f|" "|f02bjf|" "|f02fjf|" "|f02wef|" "|f02xef|" "|f04adf|" "|f04arf|" "|f= 04asf|" "|f04atf|" "|f04axf|" "|f04faf|" "|f04jgf|" "|f04maf|" "|f04mbf|"= @@ -7723,9 +4927,9 @@ t f )))) (si::use-fast-links nil) (get-NAG-chapter ch fl) -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +======================== bash-2.05$ /home/build/axiom--main--1--patch-23/obj/sol9gcc/bin/lisp @@ -7740,38 +4944,11 @@ Top level. > (quit) bash-2.05$ - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnKSN-00079T-Oh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:32:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnKPe-0006LI-3X - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:30:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnKPP-0006Fg-23 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:29:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnKPO-0006Bg-UL - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:29:50 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnK5Z-0005uL-L8 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:09:21 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j08H9IE32222; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:09:18 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j08HniI02193; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:49:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:49:44 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire, Kostas Oikonomou -Subject: [Kostas Oikonomou: Problem with patch 23 and - Solaris 9 identified] -Cc: gnu-devel@gnu.org, list - -Camm, +Subject: [Kostas Oikonomou: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified] Kostas has found a problem on the solaris 9 platform. The argument list given has 154 items. @@ -7790,91 +4967,11 @@ which contains functions which are never compiled. As I recall, the interpreter can handle very long argument lists but the compiler cannot. -Tim - - -------- Start of forwarded message ------- -Received-SPF: pass (spamd.bsdwebsolutions.com: domain of nongnu.org designates 199.232.76.165 as permitted sender) client-ip=199.232.76.165; envelope-from=axiom-developer-bounces+daly=idsi.net@nongnu.org; helo=lists.gnu.org; -To: "Axiom developers" -Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:20:05 -0500 -From: Kostas Oikonomou -Subject: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified - 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_34 BODY: 3alpha-pock-4alpha - -0.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list - - -I just discovered that the problem I reported a few days ago is caused by -the function "get-NAG-chapter" in "util.lisp". - -Here is a test file "bug.lisp": - -========================================================================== -(setq ch "c02") -(setq fl - '("LOADNAG" "|c02aff|" "|c02agf|" "|c05adf|" "|c05nbf|" "|c05pbf|" "|c06eaf|" "|c06ebf|" "|c06ecf|" "|c06ekf|" "|c06fpf|" "|c06fqf|" "|c06frf|" "|c06fuf|" "|c06gbf|" "|c06gcf|" "|c06gqf|" "|c06gsf|" "|d01ajf|" "|d01akf|" "|d01alf|" "|d01amf|" "|d01anf|" "|d01apf|" "|d01aqf|" "|d01asf|" "|d01bbf|" "|d01fcf|" "|d01gaf|" "|d01gbf|" "|d02bbf|" "|d02bhf|" "|d02cjf|" "|d02ejf|" "|d02gaf|" "|d02gbf|" "|d02kef|" "|d02raf|" "|d03edf|" "|d03eef|" "|d03faf|" "|e01baf|" "|e01bef|" "|e01bff|" "|e01bgf|" "|e01bhf|" "|e01daf|" "|e01saf|" "|e01sbf|" "|e01sef|" "|e02adf|" "|e02aef|" "|e02agf|" "|e02ahf|" "|e02ajf|" "|e02akf|" "|e02baf|" "|e02bbf|" "|e02bcf|" "|e02bdf|" "|e02bef|" "|e02daf|" "|e02dcf|" "|e02ddf|" "|e02def|" "|e02dff|" "|e02gaf|" "|e02zaf|" "|e04dgf|" "|e04fdf|" "|e04gcf|" "|e04jaf|" "|e04mbf|" "|e04naf|" "|e04ucf|" "|e04ycf|" "|f01brf|" "|f01bsf|" "|f01maf|" "|f01mcf|" "|f01qcf|" "|f01qdf|" "|f01qef|" "|f01rcf|" "|f01rdf|" "|f01ref|" "|f02aaf|" "|f02abf|" "|f02adf|" "|f02ae! -f|" -"|f02aff|" "|f02agf|" "|f02ajf|" "|f02akf|" "|f02awf|" "|f02axf|" "|f02bbf|" "|f02bjf|" "|f02fjf|" "|f02wef|" "|f02xef|" "|f04adf|" "|f04arf|" "|f04asf|" "|f04atf|" "|f04axf|" "|f04faf|" "|f04jgf|" "|f04maf|" "|f04mbf|" "|f04mcf|" "|f04qaf|" "|f07adf|" "|f07aef|" "|f07fdf|" "|f07fef|" "|s01eaf|" "|s13aaf|" "|s13acf|" "|s13adf|" "|s14aaf|" "|s14abf|" "|s14baf|" "|s15adf|" "|s15aef|" "|s17acf|" "|s17adf|" "|s17aef|" "|s17aff|" "|s17agf|" "|s17ahf|" "|s17ajf|" "|s17akf|" "|s17dcf|" "|s17def|" "|s17dgf|" "|s17dhf|" "|s17dlf|" "|s18acf|" "|s18adf|" "|s18aef|" "|s18aff|" "|s18dcf|" "|s18def|" "|s19aaf|" "|s19abf|" "|s19acf|" "|s19adf|" "|s20acf|" "|s20adf|" "|s21baf|" "|s21bbf|" "|s21bcf|" "|s21bdf|") -) - -(defun get-NAG-chapter (chapter function-list) - (apply 'append - (mapcar - #'(lambda (f) - (cond ((equalp chapter (subseq (string f) 0 (length chapter))) (list f )))) - function-list))) - -(si::use-fast-links nil) -(get-NAG-chapter ch fl) -========================================================================== - - -bash-2.05$ /home/build/axiom--main--1--patch-23/obj/sol9gcc/bin/lisp -> (load "bug.lisp") -Loading bug.lisp - -Error: Lisps arglist maximum surpassed -Error signalled by APPLY. -Broken at SYSTEM::BREAK-LEVEL. Type :H for Help. ->> :q -Top level. -> (quit) -bash-2.05$ - - -_______________________________________________ -Axiom-developer mailing list -list -http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -------- End of forwarded message ------- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnKkl-00031P-M4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:51:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnKk1-0002qZ-TJ - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:51:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnKjq-0002jW-6m - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:51:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnKjn-0002em-Jn - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:50:55 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnKQc-0008Kt-2M - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:31:06 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j08HUeMw248558; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:30:46 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:28:52 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Vladimir Bondarenko Subject: Re: AXIOM bug list / available resources? -Cc: list - -Dear Vladimir, Vladimir Bondarenko writes: @@ -7921,45 +5018,11 @@ Hey, that's your job, Vladimir :-) > Much thanks for any help or hint in advance. -Likewise, - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLDn-0001wt-H9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLDS-0001qY-VN - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLDK-0001me-5N - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnLDK-0001kd-1h - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:26 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnKqN-0002Yo-Rf - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:57:44 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CnKqN-00041h-00; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:57:43 -0500 -To: Kostas Oikonomou -Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: Failure in Solaris 9 build, - patch 23 - <200412310401.iBV414M09819@localhost.localdomain> - - <54fz1hp873.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54mzvpi0bg.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire Date: 08 Jan 2005 12:57:43 -0500 -Cc: Axiom developers - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Kostas Oikonomou +Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: Failure in Solaris 9 build, patch 23 To get a backtrace below, cd into the $(OBJ)/$(SYS)/bin directory and execture from the shell @@ -8019,48 +5082,12 @@ Kostas Oikonomou writes: > @ echo '#+:akcl (setq si::*system-directory* "${SPAD}/bin/")' >> ${OUT}/makeint.lisp > @ (cd ${OBJ}/${SYS}/bin ; \ > echo '(progn (gbc t) (load "${OUT}/makeint.lisp") (gbc t) (user::spad-save "${SAVESYS}"))' | ${LISPSYS} ) -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLGg-0002Ry-Cu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:24:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLGe-0002RD-3U - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:24:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLGd-0002R1-JQ - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:24:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnLDh-0001kd-G6 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:49 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnL2C-0003pb-1Z - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:09:56 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CnL29-00063J-00; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:09:53 -0500 -To: Kostas Oikonomou -Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: Failure in Solaris 9 build, - patch 23 - <200412310401.iBV414M09819@localhost.localdomain> - - <54fz1hp873.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54mzvpi0bg.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 08 Jan 2005 13:09:53 -0500 -Cc: Axiom developers - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Kostas Oikonomou +Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: Failure in Solaris 9 build, patch 23 Kostas Oikonomou writes: @@ -8172,44 +5199,12 @@ inline the apply and circumvent the arglist maximum thereby. > > )lisp (si::use-fast-links nil) > > )lisp (load "input file.lisp") > >>> :bt (backtrace) -> -> Kostas -> -> -> - -Take care, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLIX-0002iQ-Am - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:26:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLDX-0001sx-BE - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLDN-0001pA-59 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnLDM-0001kd-QH - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:28 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnKlk-00027V-Pj - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:52:57 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CnKlh-0003Aw-00; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:52:53 -0500 +\start +Date: 08 Jan 2005 12:52:53 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 08 Jan 2005 12:52:53 -0500 -Cc: Axiom developers Greetings! And thanks for the detective work! @@ -8283,51 +5278,13 @@ Kostas Oikonomou writes: > Top level. > > (quit) > bash-2.05$ -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLJ3-0002sc-Tk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:27:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLIq-0002q5-CY - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:27:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLIl-0002nT-RN - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:27:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnLIl-0002nF-Lw - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:27:03 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnL6v-0004a8-Mm - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:14:49 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 936511068FF; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:14:47 +0200 (EET) -Received: from cybertester (dialin138.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.138]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E214C10689C - for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:14:46 +0200 (EET) +\start Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:15:04 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list Subject: Issue tracker: Language selection -Hello, - I visited the Tracker http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage/issuetracker @@ -8338,39 +5295,11 @@ Russian quite well :) but I hate seeing Russian in testing. What is the easiest way to enjoy the inscriptions in the English at the Tracker? -Much thanks! - - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLhj-0001sU-Tf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:52:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLcp-0000IJ-C7 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:47:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLca-00009c-Gx - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:47:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnLcW-00005I-TC - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:47:28 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnLCa-0005Jq-P2 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:20:41 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CnLCP-0007fQ-00; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:20:29 -0500 +Date: 08 Jan 2005 13:20:29 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Bill Page Subject: Re: uffi -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 08 Jan 2005 13:20:29 -0500 -Cc: list, Tim Daly Greetings! GCL does have socket support, but not 'uffi' (Universal Foreign Function Interface), yet. The latter is a proposal outside @@ -8415,71 +5344,12 @@ Bill Page writes: > > > > > > Failing that I'll do it specifically for GCL and then port it > > > to uffi elsewhere. -> > > -> > > t -> > > -> > > -> > > _______________________________________________ -> > > Axiom-developer mailing list -> > > list -> > > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> > > -> > > -> > -> > -- -> > Camm Maguire -> > Camm Maguire -> > ============================================================== -> > ============ -> > "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- -> > Baha'u'llah -> > -> > -> > _______________________________________________ -> > Axiom-developer mailing list -> > list -> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> > -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLjh-0002bE-H3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:54:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLj6-0002VP-5k - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:54:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnLit-0002Oe-Jf - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:54:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnLiq-0002KH-Aw - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:54:00 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnLUD-0007Gz-UR - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:38:54 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id A4611106882; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:38:52 +0200 (EET) -Received: from cybertester (dialin135.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.135]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F7810687E; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:38:51 +0200 (EET) +\start Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:39:08 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re[2]: AXIOM bug list / available resources? - <16864.6228.910428.368342@seam101.local> -Cc: list - -Dear Martin, Thanks for quick reply! @@ -8532,50 +5402,11 @@ Now I adore leading a giddy life of pleasure, and a favorite saying of mine is, One good tester should find 100 times more bugs than all the developers can fix together. - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnMFQ-0001Oc-Tp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:27:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnMFP-0001Ne-Cu - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:27:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnM8a-0008PL-BO - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:20:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnM8X-0008H4-Ta - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:20:33 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CnLqS-0001Ak-Gz - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:01:52 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j08J1cXs027204 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:01:38 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j08J1cMI027201; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:01:38 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:01:38 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Vladimir Bondarenko Subject: Re: Issue tracker: Language selection - list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" -Cc: list - - ---ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Vladimir Bondarenko [Vladimir Bondarenko] wrote: > Hello, @@ -8596,56 +5427,11 @@ ask for english. I18n work on zwiki is ongoing, and at this point I think most of the zwiki interface has been translated to 15 or so languages. This is in the mozilla/firefox preferences. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the - votes." -- Joseph Stalin - ---ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB4C4SjwioWRGe9K0RAn9aAJ9yxlDeIgvZ44gy5uwsa18uE+pvyACg42gO -TKqn4Nup5BKj6NQm4UPK0cg= -=R11o ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnMMh-0006Ui-Vi - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:35:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnMMR-0006Qd-CB - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:34:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnMMN-0006Ol-VN - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:34:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnMMN-0006Nl-FZ - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:34:51 -0500 -Received: from [213.228.0.176] (helo=postfix4-2.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnM9Q-0003ln-Ca - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:21:28 -0500 -Received: from melusine (lns-vlq-39f-81-56-144-162.adsl.proxad.net - [81.56.144.162]) - by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473242A0329 - for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:21:27 +0100 (CET) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CnM9O-00018N-00 - for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:21:26 +0100 +\start Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:21:26 +0100 -To: Axiom developers -Subject: Re: Issue tracker: Language selection +To: list From: Frederic Lehobey - -Hi, +Subject: Re: Issue tracker: Language selection Happy new (gregorian) year to everybody and congratulations for the latest achievements. I have not seen them myself yet but am eager to. @@ -8653,9 +5439,9 @@ latest achievements. I have not seen them myself yet but am eager to. On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 08:15:04PM +0200, Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: > I visited the Tracker ->=20 +> > http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage/issuetracker ->=20 +> > and to much surprise it is displayed in the Russian. I can speak Actually I see them in French! The explanation is the web site uses @@ -8667,36 +5453,11 @@ Actually I see them in French! The explanation is the web site uses A nice place to understand how to setup content negociation is there: http://www.debian.org/intro/cn -Best regards, -Fr=E9d=E9ric - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnNBV-0003QC-JY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:27:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnNBS-0003Oc-Du - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:27:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnNBR-0003OH-K2 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:27:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnN6P-0002BE-CE - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:22:25 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnMOh-0005WZ-Kt - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:37:16 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CnMOg-0002FK-00; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:37:14 -0500 -To: Kostas Oikonomou -From: Camm Maguire Date: 08 Jan 2005 14:37:14 -0500 -Cc: Axiom developers +From: Camm Maguire +To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] [MAILER-DAEMON@tenkan.org: - Returned mail: see transcript for details] Greetings! @@ -8840,60 +5601,12 @@ Take care, > Top level. > > (quit) > bash-2.05$ -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - ------- End of forwarded message ------- -> -> - --j08H9OE32224.1105204164/tenkan.org-- -> ---------- -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Gcl-devel mailing list -> Gcl-devel@gnu.org -> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gcl-devel -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnNxe-0007EW-Mi - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:17:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnNxd-0007EJ-7X - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:17:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnNxc-0007E6-KA - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:17:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnNxc-0007E3-Fk - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:17:24 -0500 -Received: from [32.97.166.34] (helo=prserv.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnNT9-0003tE-9Q - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:45:55 -0500 -Received: from [127.0.0.1] (slip-12-64-152-59.mis.prserv.net[12.64.152.59]) - by attglobal.net (out4) with ESMTP - id <2005010820453720406ine9he>; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:45:37 +0000 +\start Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:45:28 -0500 From: Eugene Surowitz - rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 -To: Tim Daly, list +To: list Subject: Re: TeX for TeXmacs for Axiom - <200501071924.j07JOwO01085@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: I see that I omitted a dash; my original note should have read "Microsoft-style activation"; @@ -8950,44 +5663,12 @@ root wrote: >Perhaps you could write up a couple paragraphs that we could add >to the documentation about this. I'm unable to do it as I don't >have the tools or environment. -> ->Tim -> -> -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnO1T-0007cq-Hl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:21:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnO1R-0007cd-Rd - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:21:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnO1R-0007cJ-9t - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:21:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnO1R-0007cG-02 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:21:21 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnNfr-00050a-AE - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:59:04 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 6A4AD1068EB; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:59:02 +0200 (EET) -Received: from cybertester (ip125-154.crimea.com [212.110.154.125]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516711068A5; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:59:01 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:59:18 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: Frederic Lehobey Subject: Re[2]: Issue tracker: Language selection - <20050108192126.GA4144@melusine> -Cc: Axiom developers - -Hi, I suspected that there should be something like browser settings but the moment I was visiting the tracker I was hunting on bugs @@ -9004,44 +5685,12 @@ FL> there: http://www.debian.org/intro/cn A big, joyful sigh of relief! Hurrah! Life is wonderful! - -Best - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnObP-0000Pa-0X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:58:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnObM-0000OM-Ac - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:58:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnObK-0000Nt-UP - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:58:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnObK-0000Nd-N8 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:58:26 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnOPo-0001Jt-NN - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:46:32 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j08LkIE16428; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:46:19 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j08MQhR02305; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:26:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:26:43 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Vladimir Bondarenko - Vladimir Bondarenko on Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:59:18 +0200) Subject: Re: Issue tracker: Language selection - <20050108192126.GA4144@melusine> - <84267136522.20050108225918@cybertester.com> -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey > I would take the opportunity to tell that I find Axiom developers > a very warm and friendly group, excellent, the only bad point is @@ -9054,93 +5703,22 @@ the opportunity to do it "in the early years", in the company of clever and dedicated people who do it for the love of it. It is a rare and wonderful opportunity for which I am extremely grateful. -Tim - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnPPo-0002jv-SK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:50:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnPPe-0002dv-JA - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:50:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnPPb-0002co-PG - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:50:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnPPb-0002bv-Jo - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:50:23 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnPBG-0005Sq-GY - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:35:34 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j08MZUE14543; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 16:35:30 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j08NG3n02344; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:16:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:16:03 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 08 Jan 2005 23:18:32 +0100) Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - <200501042323.j04NNaQ23196@localhost.localdomain> - - - <200501050419.j054JXb23614@localhost.localdomain> - - <200501050510.j055AX523708@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Gaby, Excellent work. We can change anything we'd like but the simple fix is probably best at the moment. I'll change the axiom--main--1 branch to include this fix. It may be a while as my system is heavily lagged (user 17.5) in the midst of way too many tasks :-) -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnPQ4-0002om-JF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:50:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnPPt-0002kh-S3 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:50:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnPPj-0002hH-Bf - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:50:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnPPj-0002bv-0R - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:50:31 -0500 -Received: from [62.212.99.186] (helo=uniton.integrable-solutions.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CnOvK-0004Er-UJ - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:19:07 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id j08MIWRB031123; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:18:32 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - j08MIWDJ031122; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:18:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Jan 2005 23:18:32 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - <200501042323.j04NNaQ23196@localhost.localdomain> - - - <200501050419.j054JXb23614@localhost.localdomain> - - <200501050510.j055AX523708@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Jan 2005 23:18:32 +0100 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -9171,41 +5749,12 @@ I would suggest that, Axiom spells its C MACROS all in CAPS, and prefix them with AXIOM_. Is that workable? --- Gaby - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnQLI-0005n0-7f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:50:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnQL1-0005hg-As - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:49:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnQKs-0005cY-39 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:49:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnQKn-0005XZ-R9 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:49:29 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnPnb-0001FJ-3F - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:15:11 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j08NF2E07851; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:15:03 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j08NtRf02394; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:55:27 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:55:27 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire - on 08 Jan 2005 12:52:53 -0500) Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified - <54mzvjajuy.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: Kostas Oikonomou, list - -Camm, Kostas, +Cc: Kostas Oikonomou This fix was applied to util.lisp.pamphlet @@ -9229,37 +5778,11 @@ Once you send me a key you can update the axiom--solaris--1 branch. (If you want, I'll apply the same update to the solaris branch). -Tim - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnQLI-0005nA-JN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:50:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnQL1-0005h3-HA - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:49:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnQKk-0005a4-KR - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:49:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnQKk-0005XZ-FC - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:49:26 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnPxt-00022u-7m - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:25:49 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j08NPmN03896; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:25:48 -0500 (EST) -To: Camm Maguire -Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified - <54mzvjajuy.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:24:36 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou -Cc: Axiom developers +To: Camm Maguire +Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified On 08 Jan 2005 12:52:53 -0500, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -9282,10 +5805,10 @@ Now the build progressed quite a bit more. But I think I may have found = another problem. Here's the failure: -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +========================== +===== 4017 making /home/build/axiom--main--1--patch-23/int/algebra/AHYP.NRLIB f= rom /home/build/axiom--main--1--patch-23/int/algebra/AHYP.spad AXIOM Computer Algebra System @@ -9381,10 +5904,10 @@ make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/build/axiom--main--1--patch-23' make: *** [all] Error 2 bash-2.05$ -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +========================== +===== The problem is that the file mnt/sol9gcc/autoload/postprop.o is not there= . What *is* there is @@ -9393,9 +5916,9 @@ mnt/sol9gcc/autoload/postprop.lisp. It's the only lisp file in autoload/= I found the following in src/interp/Makefile.pamphlet: -<>=3D +<>= # These are autloaded old parser files -OPOBJS=3D ${AUTO}/parsing.${O} ${AUTO}/bootlex.${O} \ +OPOBJS= ${AUTO}/parsing.${O} ${AUTO}/bootlex.${O} \ ${AUTO}/def.${O} \ ${AUTO}/fnewmeta.${O} ${AUTO}/metalex.${O} \ ${AUTO}/metameta.${O} \ @@ -9405,48 +5928,11 @@ OPOBJS=3D ${AUTO}/parsing.${O} ${AUTO}/bootlex.${O} \ Doesn't that seem wrong? - - Kostas - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnQL6-0005iI-WC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:49:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnQKx-0005fU-OW - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:49:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnQKj-0005ZU-RW - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:49:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnQKj-0005XZ-Np - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:49:25 -0500 -Received: from [62.212.99.186] (helo=uniton.integrable-solutions.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CnQ1c-0002GH-P7 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:29:41 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id j08NTARB031401; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:29:11 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - j08NTAEJ031400; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:29:10 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Jan 2005 00:29:10 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: current CVS tree (axiom 3 beta) fails to build - <200501042323.j04NNaQ23196@localhost.localdomain> - - - <200501050419.j054JXb23614@localhost.localdomain> - - <200501050510.j055AX523708@localhost.localdomain> - - <200501082316.j08NG3n02344@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Jan 2005 00:29:10 +0100 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -9460,41 +5946,12 @@ Tim Daly writes: That is OK -- as far as February Release contains it :-) Thanks! --- Gaby - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnRj6-0001BA-Qt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:18:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnRit-00015a-VA - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:18:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnRip-000129-Jz - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:18:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnRio-00010s-Qm - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:18:22 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnRSq-0002Ck-IU - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:01:52 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0911jE11627; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:01:46 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j091g9v02478; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:42:09 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:42:09 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified - <54mzvjajuy.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -Cc: Camm Maguire, list - -Kostas, +Cc: Camm Maguire Actually postprop.lsp is correct. The file contains just a couple of top-level forms. It is used by the compiler to set properties @@ -9520,44 +5977,11 @@ This is the line that creates the file postprop.lsp. The magic number within the subdirectory (there can be many 102 lines but only 1 from the src/interp/Makefile. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnSDz-0006Zi-41 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:50:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnSDr-0006X3-Qf - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:50:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnSDo-0006Vh-7G - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:50:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnSDl-0006S0-FA - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:50:21 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.225] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CnRxf-0004lH-2L - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:33:43 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j091XV0w000750; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:33:31 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j091XVWt000749; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:33:31 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:33:31 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <002101c4f4fc$24e1cbd0$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050108115220.GA14909@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list, Tim Daly - - -Bill, Tim, I have an update. I will try a rebuild tonight with what I think is a probable fix for most of the affected domains. @@ -9573,43 +5997,12 @@ within the compiler runtime. I'll report back after the build finishes. - -Cheers, -Steve - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTBt-0001wm-GD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:52:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTAi-0001co-HS - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:51:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTAY-0001Vk-3n - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:51:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnTAS-0001P6-A3 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:51:00 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnSnQ-0000hc-I0 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:27:12 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j092RBN07755; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:27:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:26:00 -0500 To: Tim Daly -Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified - <54mzvjajuy.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <200501090142.j091g9v02478@localhost.localdomain> From: Kostas Oikonomou -Cc: Camm Maguire, list - -Tim, +Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified +Cc: Camm Maguire I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in my last mail? @@ -9624,11 +6017,6 @@ than 900 .o files in mnt/sol9gcc/algebra, and it's still going. Am I missing something? - Kostas - - - - > Kostas, > > Actually postprop.lsp is correct. The file contains just a couple @@ -9640,9 +6028,9 @@ Am I missing something? > find the line that reads: > @echo 4017 .... > and add an output of ${LISP}: -> @echo 4017 .... LISP=3D${LISP} +> @echo 4017 .... LISP=${LISP} > -> It should output LISP=3Dlsp for GCL which means that it is looking for +> It should output LISP=lsp for GCL which means that it is looking for > the file mnt/sol9gcc/autoload/postprop.lsp > > Next check to see that this file exists. I can't imagine why it might n= @@ -9656,43 +6044,13 @@ stprop.lsp from..... > 102 comes from the fact that each makefile stanza has a unique number > within the subdirectory (there can be many 102 lines but only 1 from > the src/interp/Makefile. -> -> Tim -> - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTAk-0001dO-5s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:51:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTAX-0001W5-6V - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:51:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTAN-0001Qv-56 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:50:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnTAM-0001P6-JT - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:50:54 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnSsB-00013m-0o - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:32:07 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j092W2E03866; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:32:02 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j093CRO02542; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:12:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:12:27 -0500 From: Tim Daly -To: brlcad@users.sourceforge.net -Cc: Gilbert Baumslag, list +To: list Subject: BRL/CAD and Axiom - -Sean, +Cc: Gilbert Baumslag I got your name from brlcad.sourceforge.net. @@ -9735,41 +6093,12 @@ from a connection to a CSG/CAD system. Please let me know if you have any interest in working together. -Tim Daly -Tim Daly -Tim Daly - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTGX-0003MV-4Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:57:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTGV-0003LV-K7 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:57:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTAc-0001az-He - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:51:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnTAZ-0001P6-Lu - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:51:07 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnShC-0000H1-Vu - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:20:47 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.138.138]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050109022044.MLHW1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:20:44 -0500 +\start +Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:21:01 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified -Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:21:01 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: Kostas Oikonomou, Camm Maguire, list - -Tim, +Cc: Kostas Oikonomou, Camm Maguire At http://arch.axiom-developer.org there is a small but significant typo. @@ -9801,40 +6130,12 @@ On Saturday, January 08, 2005 6:55 PM you wrote: > branch). > - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTcY-0000m1-6d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:20:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTcR-0000j5-Ex - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:19:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTcJ-0000f7-GR - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:19:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnTcJ-0000bK-AG - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:19:47 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnTAY-0003D6-LA - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:51:06 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j092p0E15516; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:51:00 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j093VYG02606; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:31:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:31:34 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified -Cc: Kostas Oikonomou, Camm Maguire, list, - Tim Daly - -Bill, +Cc: Kostas Oikonomou, Camm Maguire, Tim Daly My tla archives says: @@ -9843,41 +6144,12 @@ arch@axiom-developer.org--axiom The website used to say '@' but it was corrected to use '.' -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTcc-0000nH-Qb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:20:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTcS-0000kE-Us - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:19:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTcL-0000e6-NQ - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:19:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnTcI-0000bK-7I - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:19:46 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnTEq-0003ag-01 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:55:32 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j092tPE17915; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:55:25 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j093Zx202612; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:35:59 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:35:59 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified - <54mzvjajuy.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <200501090142.j091g9v02478@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, Tim Daly +Cc: Camm Maguire postprop is part of interp, not algebra. @@ -9894,46 +6166,18 @@ It should be created correctly by your src/interp/Makefile I'll look at this in more detail. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTcp-0000og-5J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:20:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTcW-0000lO-GB - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:20:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnTcM-0000gJ-0k - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:19:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnTcK-0000bK-H1 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:19:48 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnT58-0002kf-Vf - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:45:31 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.138.138]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050109024528.MPGH1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:45:28 -0500 +Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:45:46 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Stephen Wilson -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:45:46 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Steve +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:34 PM you wrote: ->=20 +> > The bootstrap code for SingleInteger does not contain a `one?' > function. On the second iteration the `one?' is compiled, > changing the domain vector for SingleInteger. Propagation is -> exactly what is going on here.=20 +> exactly what is going on here. Fantastic work! I am totally envious of your obvious skill with lisp and the Axiom compiler code. @@ -9942,11 +6186,11 @@ This thing about `one?' reminds of something that has worried me a while in the Axiom library code. In *many* places throughout the code there are comments like these in si.spad.pamphlet: --- not one? c =3D> error "inverse does not exist" - not (c =3D 1) =3D> error "inverse does not exist" +-- not one? c => error "inverse does not exist" + not (c = 1) => error "inverse does not exist" --- one?(x) =3D=3D ONEP(x)$Lisp - one?(x) =3D=3D x =3D 1 +-- one?(x) == ONEP(x)$Lisp + one?(x) == x = 1 The documentation contains this terse explanation: @@ -9962,13 +6206,13 @@ of circular dependencies. Surely such a basic change must create many new dependencies? Wouldn't if have been much better simply to provide a GCL compatible lisp expression? ->=20 +> > There is an interesting story behind how I tracked this down. > I'll prepare some notes and document some the the lookup > functions used within the compiler runtime. ->=20 -> I'll report back after the build finishes.=20 ->=20 +> +> I'll report back after the build finishes. +> I look forward to reading this! @@ -9978,34 +6222,34 @@ there must be at least one more similar propagation. --- int/algebra/BINFILE.lsp Fri Jan 7 13:13:39 2005 +++ int/algebra/BINFILE.NRLIB/code.lsp Fri Jan 7 13:39:24 2005 @@ -13,7 +13,7 @@ -=20 + (DEFUN |BINFILE;readIfCan!;$U;6| (|f| $) (PROG (|n|) (RETURN (SEQ (COND ((NULL (EQUAL (QVELT |f| 2) "input")) (|error| "File not in read = state")) ((QUOTE T) (SEQ (BINARY_SELECT_INPUT (QVELT |f| 1)) (LETT |n| (BINARY_READBYTE) |BINFILE;readIfCan!;$U;6|) (EXIT (COND ((EQL |n| -1) = (CONS -1 "failed")) ((QUOTE T) (CONS 0 |n|)))))))))))=20 -=20 +1 "failed")) ((QUOTE T) (CONS 0 |n|))))))))))) + -(DEFUN |BINFILE;write!;$2Si;7| (|f| |x| $) (SEQ (COND ((NULL (EQUAL = (QVELT |f| 2) "output")) (|error| "File not in write state")) ((OR (QSLESSP |x| = 0) (< 255 |x|)) (|error| "integer cannot be represented as a byte")) = ((QUOTE T) -(SEQ (BINARY_PRINBYTE |x|) (EXIT |x|))))))=20 +(SEQ (BINARY_PRINBYTE |x|) (EXIT |x|)))))) +(DEFUN |BINFILE;write!;$2Si;7| (|f| |x| $) (SEQ (COND ((NULL (EQUAL = (QVELT |f| 2) "output")) (|error| "File not in write state")) ((OR (QSLESSP |x| = 0) (QSLESSP 255 |x|)) (|error| "integer cannot be represented as a byte")) -((QUOTE T) (SEQ (BINARY_PRINBYTE |x|) (EXIT |x|))))))=20 -=20 +((QUOTE T) (SEQ (BINARY_PRINBYTE |x|) (EXIT |x|)))))) + (DEFUN |BINFILE;position;$Si;8| (|f| $) (COND ((NULL (EQUAL (QVELT |f| = 2) "input")) (|error| "file must be in read state")) ((QUOTE T) = (FILE-POSITION -(QVELT |f| 1)))))=20 +(QVELT |f| 1))))) --------- @@ -10013,42 +6257,12 @@ Notice how '(< 255 |x|))' becomes '(QSLESSP 255 |x|))' during this iteration. It is not clear to me that this change can be related to a change in the domain vector. Or can it? - -Thanks. - -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnU6F-0006ML-LG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:50:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnU3O-0005sd-Bv - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:47:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnU38-0005hl-LE - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:47:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnU31-0005fP-C2 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:47:23 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.188] (helo=tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnTnL-0006Ks-VG - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:31:12 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.138.138]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050109033109.NYAE25979.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:31:09 -0500 +Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:31:30 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified -Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:31:30 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: Kostas Oikonomou, Camm Maguire, list - -Tim, +Cc: Kostas Oikonomou, Camm Maguire On Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:32 PM you wrote: > @@ -10090,42 +6304,11 @@ and map to the same machine. So I don't see how what is at the web site could possibly work. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnU8S-0007Ho-OK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:53:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnU3L-0005sB-Pv - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:47:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnU3A-0005lG-O5 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:47:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnU36-0005fP-7a - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:47:28 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnTgF-0005tz-LW - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:23:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j093NkE03949; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:23:46 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0944J202645; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:04:19 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:04:19 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Bill, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. The ONEP change is mine. ONEP is a CCL function, not a common lisp function. The question that needs to be answered in order to implement ONEP in @@ -10138,38 +6321,12 @@ implementation (probably for efficiency). Since I couldn't decide what the exact semantics of ONEP are I took the safest route. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnUFV-0000m9-Kf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:00:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnUFS-0000lA-4u - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:00:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnUFJ-0000hH-I5 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:00:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnUFJ-0000gl-37 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:00:05 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnTzv-000837-Mf - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:44:11 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j093i3E16595; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:44:03 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j094ObQ02669; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:24:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:24:37 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified -Cc: Kostas Oikonomou, Camm Maguire, list, - Tim Daly +Cc: Kostas Oikonomou, Camm Maguire ummm, but it does? :-) @@ -10188,40 +6345,12 @@ or sftp://arch@axiom-developer.org/home/arch/archive/axiom -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnUWc-0003zD-5k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:17:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnUWZ-0003yh-TR - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:17:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnUWZ-0003yU-Ak - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:17:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnUWZ-0003yR-8f - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:17:55 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnU5C-0008Vl-B8 - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:49:38 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j093nWE20267; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:49:33 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j094U7102686; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:30:07 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:30:07 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified -Cc: Kostas Oikonomou, Camm Maguire, list, - Tim Daly - -Bill, +Cc: Kostas Oikonomou, Camm Maguire As usual, you are correct and I am wrong. @@ -10231,36 +6360,11 @@ axiom's arch directory (and you thought i was always root :-) ). I'll fix it. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnUb5-00050u-Hq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:22:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnUb2-0004yW-2s - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:22:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnUaz-0004wO-OI - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:22:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnUaz-0004wD-Ja - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:22:29 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.188] (helo=tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnUOM-0001Sq-MK - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:09:26 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.138.138]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050109040923.ODVT25979.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:09:23 -0500 +Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:09:42 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified -Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:09:42 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list - -Tim, There seems to be an error in the Makefile for the Axiom book. @@ -10282,38 +6386,11 @@ make: *** [noweb] Error 2 Do you know what might be wrong? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnV24-0001bR-Mu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:50:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnV1u-0001Xq-Ou - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:50:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnV1h-0001Qw-SQ - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:50:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnV1h-0001QP-OO - for list; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:50:05 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.25] (helo=tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnUq3-0003p9-7X - for list; 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Sun, 09 Jan 2005 04:53:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnZlZ-0000iO-OD - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 04:53:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnZlW-0000gT-Df - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 04:53:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnZlV-0000g9-FO - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 04:53:41 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnZZW-0002wC-EE - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 04:41:18 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j099eqMw649836; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:40:55 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:39:03 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Vladimir Bondarenko Subject: Re: Re[2]: AXIOM bug list / available resources? - <16864.6228.910428.368342@seam101.local> - <39258726198.20050108203908@cybertester.com> -Cc: list - -Dear Vladimir, Vladimir Bondarenko writes: @@ -10705,36 +6626,11 @@ just click on the bug you want to read about??? Go ahead. But PLEASE be as concise as possible, burning down the bug to the real issue. There is no point in having 1000 nearly identical bugs... -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CneOk-0004p3-UB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:50:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CneOf-0004nK-Sl - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:50:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CneOa-0004kz-9M - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:50:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CneOZ-0004kW-SB - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:50:19 -0500 -Received: from [32.97.166.32] (helo=prserv.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CneD3-0006NT-Uo - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:38:26 -0500 -Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([12.64.120.148]) - by attglobal.net (out2) with ESMTP - id <20050109143824202053molce>; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:38:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:38:18 -0500 From: Eugene Surowitz - rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 To: list -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. It's probably irrelevant (I think it was fixed) but: Once upon a time long long ago in the land of Axiom, @@ -10829,149 +6725,12 @@ Bill Page wrote: >Notice how '(< 255 |x|))' becomes '(QSLESSP 255 |x|))' during >this iteration. It is not clear to me that this change can be >related to a change in the domain vector. 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I was trying to keep myself optimistic that this was @@ -11020,45 +6779,12 @@ On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 11:04:19PM -0500, root wrote: > > Since I couldn't decide what the exact semantics of ONEP are I took > the safest route. -> -> Tim - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CngEk-0004Mt-Lb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:48:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CngEh-0004LV-I8 - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:48:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CngEg-0004Kp-FO - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:48:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CngEg-0004Kl-CJ - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:48:14 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cnfef-0008CN-Qh - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:11:02 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j09GAmE07312; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:10:49 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j09GpDS10493; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:51:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:51:13 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Vladimir Bondarenko - Vladimir Bondarenko on Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:36:43 +0200) Subject: Re: Issue tracker: Language selection - <20050108192126.GA4144@melusine> - <84267136522.20050108225918@cybertester.com> - <200501082226.j08MQhR02305@localhost.localdomain> - <47298181051.20050109073643@cybertester.com> -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Vladimir, Sorry to hear about your living conditions. Perhaps you might look at the Axiom Foundation information. @@ -11092,40 +6818,11 @@ I'll try to collect the various parts and post them again. If you're interested you can follow the instructions on arch.axiom-developer.org to get write access. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnk0k-0004mU-Qn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:50:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnk0c-0004ju-N1 - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:49:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnk0S-0004fV-0s - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:49:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cnk0Q-0004a5-HW - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:49:47 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnjSJ-0001OJ-S4 - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:14:32 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.134]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050109201428.RJOZ1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:14:28 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: Stephen Wilson, - "'root'" Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:14:44 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list - -Steve. +From: Bill Page +To: Stephen Wilson +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies,bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Sunday, January 09, 2005 10:54 AM you wrote: > ... @@ -11175,41 +6872,11 @@ for now. I think we should continue to pursue the idea of mutual recursion in Axiom since it is (at least implicitly) such an essential part of the current Axiom library. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnkcS-0003r5-Nj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:29:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnkcR-0003pq-MN - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:29:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnkcR-0003pe-4q - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:29:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnkcR-0003pb-2J - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:29:03 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.34] (helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnkFj-0006kX-MW - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:05:35 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.85.168]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050109210533.JQVM1899.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:05:33 -0500 +Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:05:53 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Stephen Wilson -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:05:53 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list, 'root' Tim Daly - -Steve, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Sunday, January 09, 2005 1:22 AM you wrote: > @@ -11341,42 +7008,11 @@ I agree enthusiastically and I sincerely hope that we can somehow attract the interest of other CAS developers, the current Aldor, Haskel and Ocaml developers in this issue. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnke6-0005A5-Am - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:30:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnkdw-00053O-3c - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:30:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnkdl-00050m-UF - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:30:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cnkdi-0004ns-JM - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:30:23 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.225] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CnkSE-0008CN-2D - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:18:30 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j09LINUd027390; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:18:23 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j09LINvM027389; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:18:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:18:23 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <000101c4f687$dffb6930$6501a8c0@Asus> -Cc: list, 'root' Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Bill, @@ -11419,39 +7055,11 @@ main as `hands off'. I agree. For myself at least, learning how things are done today can only help in realizing what we want to achieve down the road. - -Cheers, -Steve - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnkzi-0002er-LN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:53:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnkzZ-0002dS-QA - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:52:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnkzI-0002XS-0j - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:52:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnkzH-0002R7-Tg - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:52:39 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.74] (helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnkXU-0000as-Gd - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:23:56 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.85.168]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050109212354.LIVA2034.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:23:54 -0500 +Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:24:14 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Vladimir Bondarenko, - "'root'" Tim Daly Subject: RE: Re[2]: Issue tracker: Language selection -Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:24:14 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list On Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:37 AM Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: > ... @@ -11493,40 +7101,11 @@ as significant mental prosthesis, as aids in the application of advanced mathematics in many different areas where formal mathematics would otherwise not be used to much advantage. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnkzs-0002fw-F1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:53:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnkzR-0002cW-Dc - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:52:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnkzE-0002Uf-N5 - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:52:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnkzD-0002R7-9y - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:52:35 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cnkbb-00016C-W2 - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:28:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j09LS8E15067; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:28:08 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j09M8e110719; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:08:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:08:40 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Steve, Bill, @@ -11558,72 +7137,20 @@ There are several hundred people at least looking at axiom (given the download numbers) so we have a responsibility to make sure that our changes are correct, complete, and necessary. -Tim - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnmpY-0006By-KC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:50:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnmp1-00066r-PP - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:50:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnmom-00060d-8N - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:50:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cnmok-0005wR-HW - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:49:54 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnmJf-0003uj-T6 - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:17:47 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j09NHkN09566 - for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:17:46 -0500 (EST) -To: "Axiom developers" Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:16:35 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou +To: list Subject: Solaris build of patch 23 successful - The Solaris 9 build is (finally!) complete. Axiom works with TeXmacs. My thanks to Bill, Camm, and Tim for all their help. - Kostas - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnpfs-0005iO-0F - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:52:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnpfg-0005Xd-20 - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:52:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnpfc-0005Vr-CA - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:52:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cnpfc-0005Vh-8t - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:52:40 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.34] (helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnpTn-00072b-GJ - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:40:27 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.182]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050110024026.MKTY1899.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:40:26 -0500 +\start +Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:40:39 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:40:39 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list -Subject: Axiom website statistics for December and January - to date +Subject: Axiom website statistics for December and January to date Tim, @@ -11660,39 +7187,11 @@ the large number of accesses by web search engines, it appears that these 2,350 people viewed at least 12,800 pages from the MathAction site. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnpfs-0005ia-5c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:52:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnpfg-0005Xf-9M - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:52:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnpfc-0005Vz-Jv - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:52:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cnpfc-0005Vh-DF - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:52:40 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.34] (helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnpTh-00071x-PW - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:40:21 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.182]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050110024018.MKTK1899.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:40:18 -0500 +Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:40:39 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:40:39 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Tim, @@ -11798,38 +7297,11 @@ we resolve the current problem first. You are right, but I think your estimate of the number of people currently looking at Axiom is too small by about a factor of 10. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnpqz-0000Nm-V9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:04:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnpqx-0000N6-Re - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:04:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnpqv-0000Lb-0X - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:04:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cnpqu-0000L8-Ol - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:04:20 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.54] (helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnpbD-0007zs-GG - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:48:07 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.182]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050110024806.XDIL19622.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:48:06 -0500 +Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:48:26 -0500 From: Bill Page -To: "'Kostas Oikonomou'" Kostas Oikonomou +To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: RE: Solaris build of patch 23 successful -Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:48:26 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: 'Axiom developers' Kostas, @@ -11853,40 +7325,11 @@ that someone could download that branch and reasonably expect to be able to build Axiom on their Solaris system? Would you like some help to do this? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnrT5-0000Ha-LN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:47:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnrSt-0000Df-DX - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:47:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnrSm-0000B6-5z - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:47:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnrSm-00005g-09 - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:47:32 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.34] (helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cnr55-0006Aa-0P - for list; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:23:03 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.182]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050110042300.NGIT1899.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:23:00 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: Tim Daly, - Stephen Wilson -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:23:18 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly, Stephen Wilson +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Tim, Steve, @@ -11945,40 +7388,11 @@ files. Steve, could you also run this sort of test on your linux version of the fixedPoint solution? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnsUf-0007yr-1I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:53:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnsUc-0007vk-7P - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:53:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnsUa-0007uQ-6s - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:53:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnsUa-0007sn-1E - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:53:28 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnsD4-00049p-Kl - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:35:22 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([69.0.62.61]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0A5ZFE00496; - Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:35:15 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0A6FdP10981; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:15:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:15:39 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Bill, @@ -12153,44 +7567,11 @@ Otherwise there are people waiting on the newly merged graphics and hyperdoc. One person I'm working with offline is developing hyperdoc pages for a linear algebra course and needs the working hyperdoc. -Tim - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnxfR-0003qt-Ps - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:25:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnxfL-0003ot-4P - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:24:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnxf9-0003iv-AD - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:24:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cnxf8-0003Pz-Kn - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:24:42 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cnx93-0007io-EV - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:51:33 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0AAomMw365448; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:50:54 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:48:14 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly - <16862.53274.264304.293819@seam101.local> - <20050107184757.GA13943@lattice.dyns.cx> - <16862.56348.154331.29115@seam101.local> - <16863.45501.381832.970325@seam101.local> - <16865.7295.844793.705524@seam101.local> - <16865.25250.343751.94153@seam101.local> - <200501091819.j09IJBH10581@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Axiom-math] Dynamically constructed return - types / Aldor +Subject: Re: [Axiom-math] Dynamically constructed return types / Aldor Dear Tim, * @@ -12226,45 +7607,11 @@ http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~watt/aldor/UserGuide/chap18.html#1 do not work. They should, but they don't. I would be *VERY* grateful, if you could give me pointers. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnyU2-0005cB-05 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnyTv-0005Y7-Kx - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnyTq-0005V9-CC - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnyTq-0005UY-73 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:06 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnyFx-0002aB-BF - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:02:45 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0AC2QMw180210; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:02:30 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:59:52 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke - <16862.53274.264304.293819@seam101.local> - <20050107184757.GA13943@lattice.dyns.cx> - <16862.56348.154331.29115@seam101.local> - <16863.45501.381832.970325@seam101.local> - <16865.7295.844793.705524@seam101.local> - <16865.25250.343751.94153@seam101.local> - <200501091819.j09IJBH10581@localhost.localdomain> - <16866.23918.270285.908686@seam101.local> - <41E2666E.50505@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Re: [Axiom-math] Dynamically - constructed return types / Aldor +Subject: Dynamically constructed return types / Aldor Ralf Hemmecke writes: > Hi Martin @@ -12325,37 +7672,10 @@ likewise, > and your Baby I+II and of course the mother. -Thanks! - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnyUE-0005hl-KI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnyU0-0005aH-C3 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnyTt-0005X3-QG - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnyTs-0005UY-W6 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:09 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CnyA8-0001bD-Ef - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:56:44 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0ABuTKe023950; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:56:29 -0600 +Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:56:28 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:56:28 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AldorForAxiom] (nouveau) It is possible to use the Aldor compiler to compile functions which you then can use in Axiom. Unfortunately, I could not get Domains and Packages to work. If anybody knows how to do this, please contribute! @@ -12414,46 +7734,12 @@ Let's do an example! Let's assume you have Aldor installed. You then have to do fact(5) Good luck. If you can get a domain to work, please contact 'list'! --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AldorForAxiom#msg20050110055627-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnyUS-0005mQ-7f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnyUB-0005gX-Is - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CnyU7-0005eJ-C4 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnyU6-0005UY-GF - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:17:22 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnyIZ-00033g-5O - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:05:27 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0AC51Mw130316; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:05:06 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey + +\start Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:02:27 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Martin Rubey - <16862.53274.264304.293819@seam101.local> - <20050107184757.GA13943@lattice.dyns.cx> - <16862.56348.154331.29115@seam101.local> - <16863.45501.381832.970325@seam101.local> - <16865.7295.844793.705524@seam101.local> - <16865.25250.343751.94153@seam101.local> - <200501091819.j09IJBH10581@localhost.localdomain> - <16866.23918.270285.908686@seam101.local> - <41E2666E.50505@hemmecke.de> - <16866.28216.248810.421837@seam101.local> -Cc: list, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Re: [Axiom-math] Dynamically - constructed return types / Aldor +Subject: Dynamically constructed return types / Aldor Sorry, I forgot the link: @@ -12465,91 +7751,25 @@ Martin Rubey writes: http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AldorForAxiom -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnz2A-0005GY-5k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:52:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnz23-0005Er-Fo - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:52:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnz1y-0005C3-8I - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:52:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cnz1y-00058s-0p - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:52:22 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cnyg0-0007jV-RD - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:29:40 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0ACTZKe026935; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:29:35 -0600 +Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:29:35 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:29:35 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AldorForAxiom] - -??changed: --It is possible to use the "Aldor":www.aldor.org compiler to compile functions --which you then can use in Axiom. Unfortunately, I could not get domains and --packages to work. If anybody knows how to do this, please contribute! It is possible to use the "Aldor":http://www.aldor.org compiler to compile functions which you then can use in Axiom. Unfortunately, I could not get domains and packages to work. If anybody knows how to do this, please contribute! -??changed: --Having put the following minimal package into a file 'test.as':: Having put into a file 'test.as' the following minimal package:: --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AldorForAxiom#msg20050110062935-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnz2F-0005I1-II - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:52:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnz24-0005Es-DL - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:52:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cnz1z-0005Cx-83 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:52:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cnz1z-00058s-58 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:52:23 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cnydm-0007JP-Dt - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:27:22 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0ACRBKe024611; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:27:12 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:27:11 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:27:11 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AldorForAxiom] - -??changed: --It is possible to use the Aldor compiler to compile functions which you then can use in Axiom. Unfortunately, I could not get Domains and Packages to work. If anybody knows how to do this, please contribute! -- --Let's do an example! Let's assume you have Aldor installed. You then have to do a little setup: -- --1. Grab the file 'axextend.lsp' from your axiom source distribution, it should reside in 'lsp/ccl/src/axbase/compiler/lib'. Rename it into 'axextend.lsp.pamphlet' and run 'document axextend.lsp.pamphlet', to obtain the proper lisp code. -- --2. Save the following into a file 'axiom.as' residing in 'aldor/1.0.2/linux/include/' of your aldor (binary) distribution:: It is possible to use the "Aldor":www.aldor.org compiler to compile functions which you then can use in Axiom. Unfortunately, I could not get domains and packages to work. If anybody knows how to do this, please contribute! @@ -12611,39 +7831,11 @@ I compiled it with Aldor as above. But sadly, in axiom I get:: protected-symbol-warn called with (NIL) - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AldorForAxiom#msg20050110062711-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co3an-0007za-2g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:44:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co3al-0007yS-8U - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:44:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co3ae-0007xM-SW - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:44:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Co3St-0005Sb-3j - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:36:27 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.74] (helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Co2dl-0004tB-Qw - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:43:38 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.148]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050110164333.SRRL2034.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:43:33 -0500 +\start +Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:43:49 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:43:49 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Tim, @@ -12894,42 +8086,11 @@ March 1 release is soon enough for me. I understand that. Thanks for discussing it in detail. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co7dX-0007eR-Op - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:03:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co7dW-0007dk-4J - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:03:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co7dV-0007dQ-CF - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:03:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Co7dV-0007dL-22 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:03:41 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.64] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Co7Jr-00012Q-95 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:23 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0ALhDt3009742; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:14 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0ALhDtO009741; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:13 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <200501092208.j09M8e110719@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Tim, Bill, @@ -12975,39 +8136,11 @@ I would be pleasantly surprised if this list is complete. I'll try an pull more information together to help better understand what is happening, and why. -Sincerely, -Steve - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co8r6-0006UZ-V3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:21:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co8r3-0006SO-SC - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:21:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co8mh-0005AX-UV - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:17:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Co8mh-000506-RD - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:17:15 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Co89t-0008Ed-Qj - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:37:10 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.18]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050110223706.DWZO1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:37:06 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: Stephen Wilson, - "'root'" Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:37:27 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Stephen Wilson +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Steve, tim, @@ -13154,43 +8287,11 @@ why this error is not detected I would be most appreciative. > understand what is happening, and why. > -Thanks. - -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co9sv-00061F-Fo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:27:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co9sr-00060Q-JE - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:27:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Co9sq-00060E-Hw - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:27:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Co9sq-00060B-7u - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:27:40 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.64] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Co9ZZ-0001qG-NT - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:07:45 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0B07fZh010033; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:07:41 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0B07eha010032; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:07:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:07:40 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <000701c4f764$f74b8b50$6501a8c0@Asus> -Cc: list, 'root' Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Bill, @@ -13272,43 +8373,11 @@ Some of the notes that I promised deal with how byte vectors and the runtime dispatch mechanisms work. I hope to get around to writing it down soon ;) -Cheers, -Steve - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoABs-0000kr-MG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:47:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoABi-0000es-Fo - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:47:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoABa-0000aw-ET - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:47:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoABa-0000Yr-8j - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:47:02 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.34] (helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Co9xC-0004gl-4y - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:32:10 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.76]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050111003144.XJQP1899.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:31:44 -0500 +Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:32:02 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Stephen Wilson -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:32:02 -0500 - boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C4F74B.124583D0" -Cc: list, 'root' Tim Daly - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - -------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C4F74B.124583D0 - charset="US-ASCII" +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Steve and Tim, @@ -13760,42 +8829,11 @@ rjyR9Rjzb7/9cyqzy6fy8xJJfo4RAYiAjeTmnJFJW0ArntIeZlzwI5vO/K7n+jIt8JvNikKXBl4j u3XpROpWSbJe1FbRYXGkW6ydyMlhO/pw3QHnf8RNnxLlkCMSYjP0LLHI2LHS1S1l5R9xu2rx5ata +dWccVgi9VOyBff/AbKyelYwOQYA -------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C4F74B.124583D0-- - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBjN-000296-Vf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:26:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBjL-00028R-EC - for list; 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Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:26:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBjN-00028y-MZ - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:26:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBjL-00028Z-M7 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:25:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoBjL-00028W-JH - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:25:59 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoBOf-0005uD-PC - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:04:37 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0B24WE12177; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:04:32 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0B2j4Z12052; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:45:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:45:04 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson - Wilson on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:13 -0500) -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <200501092208.j09M8e110719@localhost.localdomain> - <20050110214313.GA1933@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Steve, @@ -13848,43 +8856,11 @@ The TSETCAT-.o is in the bootstrap list. The TSETCAT-.o file is generated. Why do you think it is missing? -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBja-0002EV-38 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:26:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBjX-0002DY-DK - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:26:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBjR-0002AW-0K - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:26:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoBjP-00028e-BZ - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:26:03 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoBUN-0006Xl-1G - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:10:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0B2AQE15731; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:10:26 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0B2oww12072; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:50:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:50:58 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson - Wilson on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:13 -0500) -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <200501092208.j09M8e110719@localhost.localdomain> - <20050110214313.GA1933@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Steve, @@ -13907,43 +8883,11 @@ Steve, The database files were intended to be copied back into the source tree (by hand) as algebra was added to the standard build. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBlx-0002zf-Fr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBlp-0002uM-8K - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBli-0002r1-D5 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoBli-0002nA-0U - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:26 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoBR6-00069O-Tx - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:07:09 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0B273E13692; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:07:03 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0B2law12061; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:47:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:47:36 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson - Wilson on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:13 -0500) -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <200501092208.j09M8e110719@localhost.localdomain> - <20050110214313.GA1933@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Steve, @@ -13957,41 +8901,11 @@ It now reads: one?(x) == x = 1 - -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBr2-0003df-BR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:33:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBr1-0003dJ-7p - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:33:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBr0-0003d7-P8 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:33:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoBm3-0002nA-GE - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:47 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoB8L-0004Ri-TO - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:47:46 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0B1ldE01260; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:47:39 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0B2S7f12027; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:07 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. > > Ah. The easy part. But you missed the hard part. There are > > input files listed in src/input/Makefile.pamphlet that do not @@ -14019,44 +8933,11 @@ the latest version because they should generate correct graphs now. I'd be overjoyed to find that some of the problems have been solved. Some of those bugs are from the original scratchpad system. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBsU-0003m1-Gy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:35:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBsS-0003kz-Lg - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:35:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBsR-0003ka-TL - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:35:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoBsR-0003kX-PP - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:35:23 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.64] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoBcR-0007Yy-RV - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:18:52 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0B2Ii0J010433; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:18:44 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0B2IihI010432; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:18:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:18:44 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <200501092208.j09M8e110719@localhost.localdomain> - <20050110214313.GA1933@lattice.dyns.cx> - <200501110239.j0B2dM612043@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list - -Tim, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 09:39:22PM -0500, root wrote: > It appears that expressIdealMember is not mentioned in the signature @@ -14071,46 +8952,11 @@ does bootstrap code in INT and SINT. Moreover, the code for this function is generated at the end of a normal build. I really think this a missing chunk (or, perhaps, I'm missing one :). -Sincerely, -Steve - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBsU-0003m9-On - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:35:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBsS-0003l1-Mc - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:35:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBsS-0003kh-26 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:35:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoBsR-0003kX-Vm - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:35:24 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.64] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoBgV-00080K-71 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:23:03 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0B2N3IK010476; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:23:03 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0B2N3Fm010475; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:23:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:23:03 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <200501092208.j09M8e110719@localhost.localdomain> - <20050110214313.GA1933@lattice.dyns.cx> - <200501110245.j0B2j4Z12052@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list - -Tim, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 09:45:04PM -0500, root wrote: > I don't understand this. The TSETCAT- BOOTSTRAP is in triset.spad.pamphlet. @@ -14124,44 +8970,11 @@ literally: Perhaps the .o file is being generated only on the second pass? - -Steve - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBmC-00032Y-CK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBlv-0002yf-HL - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoBlm-0002t5-8L - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoBll-0002nA-Cd - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:29 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoBJ9-0005R3-Bb - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:58:55 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0B1woE07821; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:58:50 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0B2dM612043; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:39:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:39:22 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson - Wilson on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:13 -0500) -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <200501092208.j09M8e110719@localhost.localdomain> - <20050110214313.GA1933@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Steve, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. > EUCDOM- is missing a definition for `expressIdealMember'. @@ -14172,46 +8985,11 @@ did not generate code for it. The definition is in catdef.spad.pamphlet in EuclideanDomain(). This code is the same as the original NAG definition. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoC62-0006TG-IM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:49:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoC60-0006T8-HI - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:49:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoC60-0006Sw-3b - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:49:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoC60-0006St-0r - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:49:24 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.64] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoBp6-0000cA-8a - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:31:56 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0B2VjI0010498; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:31:46 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0B2VjHg010497; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:31:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:31:45 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <200501092208.j09M8e110719@localhost.localdomain> - <20050110214313.GA1933@lattice.dyns.cx> - <200501110247.j0B2law12061@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list - -Tim, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 09:47:36PM -0500, root wrote: > The code was changed. It used to read: @@ -14246,44 +9024,11 @@ missing function by looking at the domain vectors. All domains which relied of functions defined in SINT with `sequence number' > 38 shifted by one in the second pass of the fixed-point build. -Sincerely, -Steve - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoD3U-0006ou-EU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:50:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoD07-0006Zl-7q - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:47:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoCzr-0006TG-34 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:47:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoCzq-0006N1-Ln - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:47:06 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoCUe-00051c-4D - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:14:52 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0B3EjE25969; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:14:46 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0B3tIh12107; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:55:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:55:18 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson - Wilson on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:13 -0500) -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <200501092208.j09M8e110719@localhost.localdomain> - <20050110214313.GA1933@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Bill, Steve, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. > It is not so clear to me why the build appears to succeed > even though these definitions are missing. In other languages @@ -14597,36 +9342,10 @@ explaining the details of this at this moment. (MAKEPROP (QUOTE |Character|) (QUOTE NILADIC) T) - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoD9y-0000sh-TY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:57:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoD9v-0000oW-5B - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:57:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoD9s-0000nl-Sn - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:57:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoD9s-0000n5-Nn - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:57:28 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoCtb-0007fD-D7 - for list; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:40:39 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0B3eYE09943; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:40:34 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0B4L6X12137; - Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:21:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:21:06 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page, Stephen Wilson - Delivery Subsystem on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:14:51 -0600) -Cc: list, Tim Daly Subject: Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details Bill, Steve, @@ -14686,52 +9405,12 @@ infovec for the domain gets filled in and stuck in the constructorcache. If a domain is already in the constructor cache it will not be loaded. Thus domain loading occurs on demand and only once. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoIde-0007iX-TD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:48:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoIdH-0007cR-DF - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:48:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoIcw-0007YB-Nc - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:47:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoIcv-0007Lb-Rh - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:47:50 -0500 -Received: from [212.250.162.8] (helo=mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoI9G-00005Y-Lm - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:17:11 -0500 -Received: from aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) - by mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20050111091706.VYZL15581.mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> - for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:17:06 +0000 -Received: from obscurity.demon.co.uk ([80.3.52.230]) - by aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20050111091705.MHIY9818.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@obscurity.demon.co.uk> - for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:17:05 +0000 -Received: from obscurity.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by obscurity.demon.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id - j0B9HhR3016853 - for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:17:45 GMT -Received: (from pab@localhost) - by obscurity.demon.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0B9Hhp9016852 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:17:43 GMT - Peter Broadbery using -f +Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:17:41 +0000 From: Peter Broadbery To: list -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:17:41 +0000 Subject: Axiom/Aldor - ---=-lFHcwdg4XTXFNJLytyGQ - - - I've been playing with the aldor/axiom stuff a little, and the following patch may help get things going(I used to work on it, and thought it'd be fun to get it going again). @@ -14808,34 +9487,11 @@ YXJwQXJncywgJyIgIiwgbmFtZXN0cmluZyBhcmdzKQ0KICAgICByYyA6PSBPQkVZIGNvbW1hbmQN CiANCiAgICAgaWYgKHJjID0gMCkgYW5kIGRvQ29tcGlsZUxpc3AgdGhlbg0K ---=-lFHcwdg4XTXFNJLytyGQ-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoMLK-0001AZ-9O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:45:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoMLE-00017Y-1F - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:45:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoML8-00013x-8D - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:45:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoML8-00013n-51 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:45:42 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoM9U-00036H-8n - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:33:40 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0BDWxMw249180; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:33:07 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:30:25 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Peter Broadbery Subject: Re: Axiom/Aldor -Cc: list, aldor-l Dear Peter, @@ -14986,40 +9642,12 @@ greatly improve this... By the way, could you explain what your patches are doing? It's just a mystery to me! I suspect that one needs some knowledge of Aldor internals? -Thanks again, - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoNMP-0007kf-1M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:51:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoNLH-0007Rn-G0 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:49:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoNLA-0007P2-TX - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:49:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoNLA-0007J2-HO - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:49:48 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoMqI-0001y9-HX - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:17:54 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j0BEHrN05655 - for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:17:53 -0500 (EST) -To: "Axiom developers" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:16:41 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou +To: list Subject: Graphics in patch 23 - I noticed that graphics (sman) do not work in my Solaris build. Are graphics supposed to work with patch 23? @@ -15029,36 +9657,14 @@ some help :-) Kostas -P.S. There seems to be something wrong with my email, so this may get pos= -ted more -than once. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoNUA-0001Nl-Ga - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:59:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoNU2-0001Ih-RE - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:59:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoNTp-0001AY-L6 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:58:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoNTp-00019s-Ag - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:58:45 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoNIF-0006xe-D3 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:46:47 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0BEkRMw428180; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:46:32 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey +P.S. There seems to be something wrong with my email, so this may get +posted more than once. + +\start Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:43:53 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Peter Broadbery Subject: Re: Axiom/Aldor -Cc: list, aldor-l Dear Peter, @@ -15140,54 +9746,17 @@ goget stuffing slot 10 of PrimeField n which clearly tells you, that the calculation is done alright, only the signature interferes with success. -Any ideas? - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoNt6-0008IL-P2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:24:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoNrn-0007v0-9S - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:23:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoNrZ-0007m7-2F - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:23:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoNrV-0007ii-IH - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:23:13 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoNXk-0000yv-Ha - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:02:48 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0BF1QKe016470; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:01:28 -0600 +Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:01:25 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:01:25 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AldorForAxiom] - -??changed: --functions which you then can use in Axiom. Unfortunately, I could not get --domains and packages to work. If anybody knows how to do this, please --contribute! functions which you then can use in Axiom. Unfortunately, support for domains and packages is still buggy, but it's nearly working - thanks to Peter! -??changed: --6. say -- replacing paths as appropriate:: 6. say - replacing paths as appropriate:: -??changed: --If you can get a domain to work, please contact 'list'! --Having put into a file 'test.as' the following minimal package:: Getting domains to work is a little more of an effort currently, since you have to patch Axiom a little. Modify the files in 'src/interp' of your axiom (source-) distribution as follows - the patches are due to Peter Broadbery:: @@ -15336,121 +9905,11 @@ Indeed, the following Aldor construct does not yet work in Axiom:: It nearly works, as one can see from a trace done with ')lisp (setq |$monitorNewWorld| t)', but not quite... --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AldorForAxiom#msg20050111090125-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoOHw-0007Ew-RS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:50:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoOG8-00075w-BO - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:48:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoOFx-00071H-RA - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:48:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoOFw-0006ts-N4 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:48:28 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoNis-00033z-FR - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:14:18 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0BFE2Ke001236; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:14:02 -0600 -From: MathAction (kratt6) -To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:14:02 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [AldorForAxiom] - - -??changed: -- - - -??changed: -- - - -??changed: -- - - -??changed: -- (1) -> fact(5)$Test - (1) -> fact(5)\$Test - -??changed: -- (2) -> fact(4)$Test - (2) -> fact(4)\$Test - -??changed: -- - - -??changed: --domain, Axiom fails. Maybe you can fix this? -- --Peter also pointed out that -- -- - aldor "extend" does not work - it ought to, I think -domain, Axiom fails. Maybe you can fix this? Concerning his patch, Peter also -pointed out that - - - aldor "extend" does not work - -??changed: -- friends) - any reason why they're left out of the distribution? - friends) - -??changed: -- patch (it's probably easy to fix, just no time atm). -- -- - Only tested the most trivial domains I could find. - patch (it's probably easy to fix, just no time at the moment). - - - Only tested the most trivial domains he could find. - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AldorForAxiom#msg20050111091402-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoOrh-0004Fo-Tr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:27:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoOre-0004ES-Rp - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:27:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoOrd-0004Dm-92 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:27:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoOrd-0004Cw-4Q - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:27:25 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoOd7-0004gR-DW - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:12:25 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 41EFF644588; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:12:24 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 3D3A66444D4; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:12:21 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:12:21 -0500 +\start +Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:12:20 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Stephen Wilson, Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit depende - ncies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:12:20 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Steve, @@ -15490,40 +9949,11 @@ And the function definition also occurs in int/EUCDOM-.lsp So the code is not missing in at least the axiom--windows--1 branch. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoPJM-0003OH-9l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:56:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoPI9-00032z-8i - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:54:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoPI0-00030U-E5 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:54:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoPHw-0002p4-Uv - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:54:37 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.64] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoOrY-0007A3-B5 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:27:20 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0BGRAvd011902; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:27:10 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0BGRAIx011901; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:27:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:27:10 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit depende - ncies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Bill, @@ -15535,95 +9965,33 @@ three other hacked trees my original copy of catdef.spad was modified. Regardless of the excuse, it is my mistake. Thank you for pointing this out! -Cheers, -Steve - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoPVz-00019J-Gd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:09:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoPVr-000168-Ds - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:08:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoPVl-00012r-D2 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:08:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoPVj-0000we-En - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:08:51 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoPFr-0002z6-7y - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:52:27 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0BGpHKe006979; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:51:17 -0600 +Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:51:17 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:51:17 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AldorForAxiom] - -??changed: --1. Grab the file 'axextend.lsp' from your axiom source distribution, it should -1. Grab the file 'axextend.lsp' from your Axiom source distribution, it should - -??changed: --to patch Axiom a little. Modify the files in 'src/interp' of your axiom --(source-) distribution as follows - the patches are due to Peter Broadbery:: -- -- Index: as.boot.pamphlet -- =================================================================== -- RCS file: /cvsroot/axiom/axiom/src/interp/as.boot.pamphlet,v -- retrieving revision 1.3 -- diff -u -r1.3 as.boot.pamphlet -to patch Axiom a little, the patches being due to Peter Broadbery. You can put -each of them into a seperate file, and then call 'patch origfile patchfile' in the -'src/interp' directory of your axiom (source-) distribution for every one of -the three. Alternatively, you can make the changes by hand, of course. +1. Grab the file 'axextend.lsp' from your Axiom source distribution, +it should to patch Axiom a little, the patches being due to Peter +Broadbery. You can put each of them into a seperate file, and then +call 'patch origfile patchfile' in the 'src/interp' directory of your +axiom (source-) distribution for every one of the +three. Alternatively, you can make the changes by hand, of course. A patch for 'as.boot.pamphlet' :: - -??changed: -- --HPUT($opHash,con,[ancestorAlist,attributeAlist,:opalist]) -- - HPUT($opHash,con,[ancestorAlist,attributeAlist,:opalist]) -- + --HPUT($opHash,con,[ancestorAlist,attributeAlist,:opalist]) -- + HPUT($opHash,con,[ancestorAlist,nil,:opalist]) - --HPUT(\$opHash,con,[ancestorAlist,attributeAlist,:opalist]) - - HPUT(\$opHash,con,[ancestorAlist,attributeAlist,:opalist]) - + --HPUT(\$opHash,con,[ancestorAlist,attributeAlist,:opalist]) + HPUT(\$opHash,con,[ancestorAlist,nil,:opalist]) -??changed: -- Index: ax.boot.pamphlet -- =================================================================== -- RCS file: /cvsroot/axiom/axiom/src/interp/ax.boot.pamphlet,v -- retrieving revision 1.3 -- diff -u -r1.3 ax.boot.pamphlet - A patch for 'ax.boot.pamphlet' :: -??changed: -- + $defaultFlag : local := false -- + $literals := [] + \$defaultFlag : local := false + \$literals := [] -??changed: -- + if $baseForms then -- + axForms := [:$baseForms, :axForms] -- + if $defaultFlag then + if \$baseForms then + axForms := [:\$baseForms, :axForms] + if \$defaultFlag then -??changed: -- $stripTypes => \$stripTypes => ??changed: @@ -15641,54 +10009,12 @@ Of course, after having done this, you need to go to the root directory of your axiom source, type './configure' and follow the instructions. The make should finish after a few minutes. - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AldorForAxiom#msg20050111105116-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoSVT-00028r-7g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:20:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoSVR-00028k-6C - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:20:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoSVP-00028I-Rx - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:20:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoSVP-00028F-No - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:20:43 -0500 -Received: from [212.250.162.8] (helo=mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoS9a-0004Am-Sw - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:58:11 -0500 -Received: from aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) - by mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20050111195751.JRYA24912.mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com>; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:57:51 +0000 -Received: from obscurity.demon.co.uk ([80.3.52.230]) - by aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20050111195745.QTII8064.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@obscurity.demon.co.uk>; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:57:45 +0000 -Received: from obscurity.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by obscurity.demon.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id - j0BJwOAA001046; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:58:26 GMT -Received: (from pab@localhost) - by obscurity.demon.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0BJwOTS001045; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:58:24 GMT - Peter Broadbery using -f -From: Peter Broadbery -To: list, Martin Rubey, aldor-l@aldor.org - <16867.54513.33542.165859@seam101.local> +\start Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:58:23 +0000 -Cc: +From: Peter Broadbery +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Axiom/Aldor - ---=-/9cFBF8d+DKfj/dtzfD/ - - Sorry - missed a file in the patch - this one should help some runtime problems. @@ -16289,48 +10615,11 @@ b3VuZHwgdSB2KSkNCiAgICAgICAoIChvciAoYXRvbSB1KSAoYXRvbSB2KSkgbmlsKQ0KICAgICAg ICggKHxwb2xpdGljYWxseVNvdW5kfCAoY2FyIHUpIChjYXIgdikpICh8bWFnaWNFcTF8IChjZHIg dSkgKGNkciB2KSkpDQogICAgICAgbmlsICkpDQoNCn== - ---=-/9cFBF8d+DKfj/dtzfD/-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoShk-0006a2-WF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:33:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoShX-0006Xi-Us - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:33:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoShM-0006St-PP - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:33:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoShM-0006Qa-Lb - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:33:04 -0500 -Received: from [212.250.162.8] (helo=mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoSQF-0006Rc-LV - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:15:23 -0500 -Received: from aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) - by mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20050111201521.MODV24912.mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com>; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:15:21 +0000 -Received: from obscurity.demon.co.uk ([80.3.52.230]) - by aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20050111201521.GYKR15415.aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@obscurity.demon.co.uk>; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:15:21 +0000 -Received: from obscurity.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by obscurity.demon.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id - j0BKFxjg001533; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:16:01 GMT -Received: (from pab@localhost) - by obscurity.demon.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0BKFxQl001532; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:15:59 GMT - Peter Broadbery using -f -Subject: Re: Axiom/Aldor +\start +Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:15:58 +0000 From: Peter Broadbery To: Martin Rubey - <16867.58921.433921.244823@seam101.local> -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:15:58 +0000 -Cc: list, aldor-l +Subject: Re: Axiom/Aldor On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 15:43 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: > Dear Peter, @@ -16362,50 +10651,11 @@ As far as fixing the error, not really, I don't know the axiom interpreter that well. Finding how & where the type is substituted would be a good start [There must be someone who does...] -Peter - --- -Peter Broadbery - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoT0I-0005FI-6B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoT0A-000593-C7 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoT07-000573-Js - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoT07-00056k-GB - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:27 -0500 -Received: from [212.250.162.8] (helo=mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoSo6-00010s-92 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:40:02 -0500 -Received: from aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) - by mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20050111203959.BDYS15658.mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com>; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:39:59 +0000 -Received: from obscurity.demon.co.uk ([80.3.52.230]) - by aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20050111203959.RNJO13480.aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@obscurity.demon.co.uk>; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:39:59 +0000 -Received: from obscurity.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by obscurity.demon.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id - j0BKeb43002194; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:40:40 GMT -Received: (from pab@localhost) - by obscurity.demon.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0BKebuV002193; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:40:37 GMT - Peter Broadbery using -f -Subject: Re: Axiom/Aldor +Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:40:36 +0000 From: Peter Broadbery To: Martin Rubey - <16867.54513.33542.165859@seam101.local> -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:40:36 +0000 -Cc: list, aldor-l +Subject: Re: Axiom/Aldor On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 14:30 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: > Dear Peter, @@ -16509,91 +10759,10 @@ env interpreted and see what breaks (this includes daase.lisp, as.clisp & interop.clisp, plus the aldor .lsp files). This stuff used to vaguely work, so putting it back in shape can't be too bad. - -> -> Thanks again, -> -> Martin --- -Peter Broadbery - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoYBw-0007lP-0H - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:25:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoYBt-0007kQ-O8 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:24:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoY7f-0006gV-6R - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:20:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoY7c-0006Yo-GU - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:20:34 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoXb4-00009C-Bg - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:46:54 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0C1kVKe005147; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:46:31 -0600 -From: MathAction (Bill Page) -To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:46:31 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [TouchGraph] touchgraph implementation, how? - - -??changed: --From BillPage Tue Jan 11 19:39:17 -0600 2005 --From: Bill Page --Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:39:17 -0600 ->From jerry Tue Jan 11 19:31:17 -0600 2005 -From: Jariell a. Perlman -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:31:17 -0600 - ---removed: -- --> From: jerry [mailto:crytox@sbcglobal.net] -- --> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:31 PM -- --> To: Bill Page -- -- --http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/TouchGraph/withNavigator - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/TouchGraph#msg20050111194631-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoYCQ-0007uK-P0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:25:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoY8q-0006wQ-OK - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:21:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoY7Y-0006bK-3F - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:20:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoY7X-0006Yo-9A - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:20:27 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoXpr-0001Ng-Q1 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:02:11 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0C20sKe013249; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:00:55 -0600 +Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:00:54 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:00:54 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [TouchGraph] touchgraph implementation, how? > I am curious how you implemented touchgraph into your wiki. @@ -16619,35 +10788,11 @@ All is explained at the above link. > are pages added automatically to touchgraph when you add a page to your wiki Yes, it is entirely dynamic. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/TouchGraph#msg20050111200054-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoYHf-0000nB-7Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:30:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoYHa-0000kr-UG - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:30:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoY7n-0006l3-2N - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:20:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoY7k-0006Yo-NV - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:20:40 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoXVQ-00083S-P1 - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:41:04 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0C1enKe029741; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:40:49 -0600 + +\start +Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:40:49 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:40:49 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [TouchGraph] touchgraph implementation, how? > From: jerry [mailto:crytox@sbcglobal.net] @@ -16687,35 +10832,10 @@ have add each page manually? Sincerely Jariell a. Perlman --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/TouchGraph#msg20050111193917-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoYXE-0000vU-LI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:47:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoYXC-0000uv-Vw - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:46:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoYXC-0000uj-IG - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:46:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoYXC-0000ug-Fm - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:46:58 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoYKg-000519-Jx - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:34:02 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0C2XkKe027023; - Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:33:47 -0600 +\start +Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:33:46 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:33:46 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [TouchGraph] Hypergraph I found it here: @@ -16725,42 +10845,12 @@ http://hypergraph.sourceforge.net/index.html Yes it does look neat and quite relevant to what we are doing in MathAction. -Thanks for the reference. - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/TouchGraph#msg20050111203346-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoZcl-0002Ha-Ui - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:56:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoZWG-0000sL-5e - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:50:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoZW4-0000my-GJ - for list; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:49:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoZW0-0000jP-97; 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Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:20:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CocoI-0005BX-Di - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:20:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CocoH-0005BD-MW - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:20:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CocoH-0005B9-D4 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:20:53 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CocKE-0004bD-Bg - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:49:50 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 1DCD7106BB8; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:49:46 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin154.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.154]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03415106BB2 - for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:49:41 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:49:44 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list @@ -16945,50 +10981,11 @@ in the planned 30 years span? Is it possible to give a more specific description of the AXIOM user target group(s)? -Much thanks in advance. - - -Best wishes, - -Vladimir Bondarenko - -http://www.cybertester.com/ -http://maple.bug-list.org/ -http://www.CAS-testing.org/ - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoeOY-0006py-Jb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:02:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoeOQ-0006oO-4l - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:02:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoeOD-0006nm-Ma - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:02:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoeO9-0006nP-NW - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:02:04 -0500 -Received: from [134.34.143.6] (helo=spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Coe8e-0005rS-V4 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:46:01 -0500 -Received: from clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (clifford [134.34.143.32]) - by spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26512; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:40:52 +0100 (MET) -Received: from clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with - ESMTP id j0C8jjTP019287; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:45:45 +0100 -Received: from localhost (fauser@localhost) - by clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id - j0C8jexY019284; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:45:45 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:45:39 +0100 (CET) From: Bertfried Fauser To: Vladimir Bondarenko Subject: Re: AXIOM target groups description ? -Cc: list On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: @@ -17035,42 +11032,11 @@ Last but not least, could you have guessed the present political landscape of Europe 30 years ago? The same is true for the 30 year horizon of AXIOM in the future, hopefully lots of unexpected things to come. -ciao -BF. - -% PD Dr Bertfried Fauser -% Institution: Max Planck Institut for Math, Leipzig -% Privat Docent: University of Konstanz, Phys Dept -% contact|->URL : http://clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~fauser/ -% Phone : Leipzig +49 341 9959 735 Konstanz +49 7531 693491 - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Coeo1-0006JT-Je - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:28:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Coenu-0006GJ-SB - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:28:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Coenr-0006Eh-QZ - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:28:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Coenr-0006Dy-G2 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:28:35 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoebZ-0002lA-6z - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:15:53 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0C9FJMw467648; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:15:25 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:12:44 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Vladimir Bondarenko Subject: Re: AXIOM target groups description ? -Cc: list Vladimir Bondarenko writes: @@ -17106,61 +11072,24 @@ Another reason to use Axiom is certainly that it is free, as in free beer. And still another reason to use Axiom is that it is free, as in freedom of speech. Found a bug? Fix it, tell the others, then go ahead! -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CofaM-0006c1-Qy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:18:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cofa8-0006aD-9b - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:18:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CofZy-0006ZI-1T - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:18:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CofZx-0006ZB-F3 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:18:17 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CofIJ-000390-Si - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:00:04 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0C9xfKe031019; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:59:41 -0600 +Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:59:41 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:59:41 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AldorForAxiom] - -??changed: -- 'axextend.lsp.pamphlet' and run 'document axextend.lsp.pamphlet', to obtain -- the proper lisp code. 'axextend.lsp.pamphlet' and edit its second line, such that it reads '\usepackage{axiom}' instead of '\usepackage{../../../../../src/scripts/tex/axiom}'. Then run 'document axextend.lsp.pamphlet', to obtain the proper lisp code. Do the same for the file 'foam_l.lsp', in the same directory. -??changed: --'src/interp' directory of your axiom (source-) distribution for every one of appropriate directory of your axiom (source-) distribution for every one of -??changed: --A patch for 'as.boot.pamphlet' :: A patch for 'src/interp/as.boot.pamphlet' :: -??changed: --A patch for 'ax.boot.pamphlet' :: A patch for 'src/interp/ax.boot.pamphlet' :: -??changed: --And finally a patch for 'i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet' :: A patch for '/src/interp/i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet' :: ++added: @@ -17211,38 +11140,11 @@ that interpreter side. You can read the whole thread on http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2005-01/msg00154.html --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AldorForAxiom#msg20050112035941-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CogRl-0000sT-De - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:13:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CogJO-0007hb-Ag - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:05:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CogJE-0007e1-Fp - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:05:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CogJC-0007ZH-JU - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:05:02 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CofyD-0003vq-2L - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:43:21 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0CAgoMw226786; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:42:56 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:40:16 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Peter Broadbery Subject: Re: Axiom/Aldor - <16867.54513.33542.165859@seam101.local> - <1105476037.14375.173.camel@obscurity.demon.co.uk> -Cc: list, Tim Daly, - aldor-l Dear Peter, Tim, @@ -17321,40 +11223,10 @@ Who could this be? It would be just wonderful to get this working! Thanks a million times, -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoiU4-0003Zu-Tx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:24:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoiTx-0003Vy-Sw - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:24:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoiTu-0003UQ-9e - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:24:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoiTt-0003Mq-T8 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:24:13 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoiEf-00075O-Dw - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:08:29 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id D290864454C; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:08:28 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 993EE64453C; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:08:27 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:08:27 -0500 +Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:08:17 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:08:17 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list, aldor-l Subject: Axiom domains and Aldor return types Martin, @@ -17457,36 +11329,10 @@ In fact this sort of thing works in Axiom: Type: Boolean etc. -------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoioS-00029M-AG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoioO-00026V-9W - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:45:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoioJ-00024A-Dh - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:45:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoioJ-00023z-5m - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:45:19 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Coicg-0004NN-7h - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:33:18 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0CDWuMw171556; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:33:00 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:30:21 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page -Cc: list, aldor-l Subject: Re: Axiom domains and Aldor return types Dear Bill, @@ -17564,35 +11410,7 @@ So one way out -- in this specific case -- would be to return a record containing the result of type Any and the defining polynomial. I hope you admit that this is ugly. -Martin - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cojce-0004cL-Vr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:37:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CojcP-0004Xt-Bf - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:37:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CojcD-0004UT-LE - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:36:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CojcD-0004OL-6r - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:36:53 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CojIP-0004Po-5u - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:16:25 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0CEGME27702 - for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:16:23 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0CEumx14075; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:56:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:56:48 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: list @@ -17603,34 +11421,11 @@ which makes a very important point. Recommended reading. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000029.html - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cojci-0004e0-SB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:37:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CojcX-0004ZU-E8 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:37:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CojcK-0004Uj-Sd - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:37:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CojcD-0004OL-Cm - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:36:53 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.112] (helo=mail-yellow.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CojHW-0004F0-Pv - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:15:30 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j0CEFPN29272; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:15:25 -0500 (EST) -To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: Graphics in patch 23 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:14:13 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou -Cc: Axiom developers +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Graphics in patch 23 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:21:22 -0500, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -17660,42 +11455,11 @@ I get a core dump, whether as root or not. Bill, what do you mean by "*I* got"? - Kostas - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CojlL-0002Rp-0X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:46:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CojlH-0002Pm-Mj - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:46:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CojlD-0002Mo-65 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:46:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CojlB-0002Lt-AF - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:46:09 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CojXW-0007cG-OJ - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:32:02 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 3862464440D; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:32:02 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id E35D864440A; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:31:59 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:31:59 -0500 +Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:31:50 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: RE: Graphics in patch 23 -Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:31:50 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: Axiom developers Kostas, @@ -17753,42 +11517,12 @@ level of errors? :) Sorry I can't be of much help with Solaris yet. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cok29-0005nQ-VA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:03:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cojvi-0004qa-3w - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:57:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CojvX-0004k1-EX - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:56:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CojvX-0004cH-6S - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:56:51 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CojeI-0000nA-SB - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:39:03 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0CEclE10330; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:38:47 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0CFJEP14100; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:19:14 -0500 + Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:19:14 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey - Rubey on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:40:16 +0100) Subject: Re: Axiom/Aldor - <16867.54513.33542.165859@seam101.local> - <1105476037.14375.173.camel@obscurity.demon.co.uk> - <16868.65168.52143.278946@seam101.local> -Cc: list, Tim Daly, aldor-l@aldor.org Martin, Peter, @@ -17806,39 +11540,10 @@ edit Makefile.globals to change.... make aldorcompiler .... -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CokwI-0004MJ-Is - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:01:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoksK-0003rv-EQ - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:57:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Coks3-0003i9-Jc - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:57:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Coks3-0003eo-1U - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:57:19 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CokYc-0006Fz-HG - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:37:15 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 3064D644420; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:37:14 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 70BCB644407; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:37:11 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:37:11 -0500 +Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:37:10 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:37:10 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list, aldor-l Subject: RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types Martin, @@ -18009,38 +11714,11 @@ for now: Interpret-Code mode is not supported for stream bodies. (6) -> -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1ColC2-00016r-LU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:17:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1ColC0-00015n-Dc - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:17:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1ColBz-000156-6L - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:17:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ColBy-00014i-Ut - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:17:55 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.127] (helo=swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Coky5-0003rP-PX - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:03:34 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.117] (hemmecke@dragonfly.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.37.117]) - by swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - j0CG3R3E003271; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:03:27 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:03:27 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return - types +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types Hi Bill, @@ -18078,40 +11756,11 @@ scripts but not real programs. See also http://www.aldor.org/docs/HTML/chap23.html#10 -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Com7G-0002aF-3A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:17:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Com7C-0002Zm-Tv - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:17:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Com79-0002Yc-84 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:17:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Com78-0002WL-Bm - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:16:58 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.46] (helo=out014.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ColqX-0005X3-0N - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:59:49 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out014.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050112165947.SEGQ28388.out014.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:59:47 -0600 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:00:00 -0500 From: William Sit To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor - returntypes - <41E54A4F.6030106@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> - [162.83.133.69] at Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:59:47 -0600 -Cc: list, aldor-l - - +Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor returntypes Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -18176,138 +11825,11 @@ protected-symbol-warn called with (NIL) But that is just because "Program Files" need be in quotes? -William - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1ComcD-0000BP-F7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:49:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1ComcB-000090-4e - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:49:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1ComWO-0007Kg-Ek - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:43:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1ComW5-00078U-6L; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:42:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Com5p-0000Gk-W4; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:15:38 -0500 -Received: from [68.114.241.208] (helo=c68.114.241.208.fdl.wi.charter.com) - by mx20.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Com5N-0002Rq-Ui; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:15:10 -0500 -Received: from 18.188.146.242 by 68.114.241.208; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:13:12 -0700 -From: "Lyle Ellison" -To: axiom-developer-owner@nongnu.org -Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:15:12 -0100 - boundary="--03068825671471550214" -Subject: Message subject - -----03068825671471550214 - -SPECIAL OFFER! 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Apparently Any does not mean Any in the sense of throwing away essential information. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cop0C-0000we-LB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:22:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Coovu-0000lC-Ep - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:17:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoovY-0000US-4P - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:17:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoovV-0000TG-AQ - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:17:09 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Coogq-0000nL-2Y - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:02:00 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 488FA644466; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:01:59 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id D3F6B644427; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:01:57 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:01:58 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: "'William Sit'" William Sit -Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor - returntypes Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:01:51 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke, - aldor-l +From: Bill Page +To: William Sit +Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor returntypes +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke William, @@ -18577,35 +12006,10 @@ everything in lisp. Right now the only work-around is to re-install Axiom for Windows in a location that does not have any spaces in the Path. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cop1V-0001VT-LG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:23:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Coovo-0000jz-9A - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:17:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoovV-0000Ug-PM - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:17:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoovV-0000TG-KW - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:17:09 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Coofs-0000fq-6U - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:01:00 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0CK0QKe032163; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:00:26 -0600 +Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:00:26 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:00:26 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [DynamicFunctionDomains] (new) On Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:00 PM you wrote: @@ -18652,37 +12056,10 @@ g(7,4) and it works (in Axiom)! (Do not declare the types for g because n is not defined). --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/DynamicFunctionDomains#msg20050112140012-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CopBt-0004ht-AY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:34:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CopBq-0004fI-Cj - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:34:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CopAY-0004A5-GI - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:32:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CopAL-0003sw-MA; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:32:30 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CoomE-0001gW-5z; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:07:34 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0CK7UE13303; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:07:30 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0CKm0V14291; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:48:00 -0500 +\start Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:48:00 -0500 From: Tim Daly -To: list, axiom-math@nongnu.org -Cc: +To: list Subject: documenting changes *, @@ -18730,43 +12107,12 @@ future maintainers. Believe me, I know that it is painful to have to write documentation. But without it Axiom will surely die. Please take the time. -Tim - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoqKx-0000bx-Bz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:47:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoqKj-0000Wa-NZ - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:47:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoqKD-0000Qn-G0 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:46:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoqKC-0000Lo-WA - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:46:45 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Copy3-00042M-2E - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:23:51 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0CLNGKe017329; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:23:16 -0600 +Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:23:16 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:23:16 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomInterface] - -++added: - \begin{axiom} i: Integer := 1 a: Any := i::Any @@ -18774,39 +12120,11 @@ dom a obj a \end{axiom} - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomInterface#msg20050112152315-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoqRF-0002AV-MP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:54:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoqR7-00027r-PZ - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:53:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoqR0-000237-Ty - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:53:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoqR0-00022k-O9 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:53:46 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.127] (helo=swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CoqEs-0006C5-8O - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:41:14 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.117] (hemmecke@dragonfly.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.37.117]) - by swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - j0CLfD3E029116 - for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:41:13 +0100 +\start Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:41:12 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: list -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return - types +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types Oops, sorry that I have not read the documentation of Any. I had a look at Any now. Well, from that I just got the feeling that a @@ -18886,40 +12204,11 @@ needs to type dom(...) and then coerce to the now known type. But how to use Any in a program is totally unclear to me. I have no idea to get the domain back from the SExpression. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoqTD-0002pg-1Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:56:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoqTA-0002oV-Tk - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:56:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CoqT9-0002nd-0I - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:55:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CoqT8-0002mf-NB - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:55:58 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoqFV-0006Hc-L3 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:41:53 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 3015E644478; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:41:53 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id BBF29644492; 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Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:09:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Corbk-00062Y-NL - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:08:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Corba-00061Y-SY - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:08:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CorbV-0005yG-Vo; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:08:42 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CorP0-0007KT-Fn; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:55:46 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0CMtgE07229; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:55:42 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0CNaCj14403; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:36:12 -0500 +\start Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:36:12 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Charles Miller -Cc: Charles Miller, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org -Subject: [Charles Miller: magnus and axiom - questions] +Subject: [Charles Miller: magnus and axiom questions] Has anyone gotten GCL to run on Fedora Core 3? @@ -19234,77 +12437,28 @@ So I am mystified as to how one can get gcl and axiom to compile. All help and suggestions welcome. -Regards, -Chuck -------- End of forwarded message ------- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CorhG-0006zI-6I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:14:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CorhD-0006xp-JA - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:14:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CorhB-0006wH-Ly - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:14:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CorhB-0006vf-Es - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:14:33 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CorTF-0007o8-OA - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:00:09 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0CMxdKe021409; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:40 -0600 +Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:39 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:39 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [PrimeField] (new) http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FiniteField.html -$GF(p)$ is called the prime field of order $p$, and is the field of residue classes modulo $p$, where the $p$ elements are denoted 0, 1, ..., . $a = b$ in $GF(p)$ means the same as $a \equiv b\ ({\bf mod}\ p)$. Note, however, that $2\times 2 \equiv 0\ ({\bf mod}\ 4)$ in the ring of residues modulo 4, so 2 has no reciprocal, and the ring of residues modulo 4 is distinct from the finite field with four elements. Finite fields are therefore denoted $GF(p^n)$, instead of $GF(k)$, where $k=p^n$, for clarity. +$GF(p)$ is called the prime field of order $p$, and is the field of +residue classes modulo $p$, where the $p$ elements are denoted 0, 1, +..., . $a = b$ in $GF(p)$ means the same as $a \equiv b\ ({\bf mod}\ +p)$. Note, however, that $2\times 2 \equiv 0\ ({\bf mod}\ 4)$ in the +ring of residues modulo 4, so 2 has no reciprocal, and the ring of +residues modulo 4 is distinct from the finite field with four +elements. Finite fields are therefore denoted $GF(p^n)$, instead of +$GF(k)$, where $k=p^n$, for clarity. -http://www.mathematics-online.org/inhalt/aussage/aussage521/ - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/PrimeField#msg20050112165939-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Corwc-0002bQ-3t - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:30:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Coru9-0001vH-C8 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:27:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cortt-0001k0-Gf - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:27:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Corto-0001hY-OO - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:27:36 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CordC-0000kZ-3Z - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:10:26 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0CNAME17977; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:10:22 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0CNopc14413; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:50:51 -0500 +\start Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:50:51 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: [Kostas Oikonomou: Re: Graphics in patch 23] -Cc: list Actually this problem should be fixed in main--patch-24. @@ -19358,43 +12512,10 @@ I'm trying to decide how to go about getting graphics to work. Are you saying there are changes in patch 24 that might make graphics not compile at all? - Kostas -------- End of forwarded message ------- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Covmy-0004Fn-3F - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:36:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Covkk-0003re-J7 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:34:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CovkU-0003kJ-Me - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:34:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CovkT-0003hu-Fq - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:34:13 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CovRf-0003oS-Fa - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:14:47 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0D3EgE22039; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:14:42 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0D3tCj14766; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:55:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:55:12 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:50:14 +0100) - <41E5B19B.80002@hemmecke.de> - <200501130021.j0D0L0A14471@localhost.localdomain> - <41E5BB31.7020303@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> - <200501130058.j0D0wX014533@localhost.localdomain> - <41E5C5C6.6030701@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: Axiom/Aldor > > bft.h? or bfd? @@ -19423,40 +12544,11 @@ find the ./configure line and change the options to: and see if that cures it. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CowBL-0000pG-VK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:02:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CowBF-0000nC-TI - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:01:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CowB9-0000kB-UB - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:01:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CowB9-0000g0-3a - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:01:47 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Covni-0006UT-JF - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:37:34 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 2D6F46444FE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:37:34 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id ACBF66444F6; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:37:32 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:37:33 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: "'Tim Daly'" Tim Daly, Stephen Wilson -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependen - cies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:37:31 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly, Stephen Wilson +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Tim, Steve, @@ -19510,36 +12602,11 @@ Does this make sense to you Tim? Does the domain vector from a dependent object file cause the generated lisp code to change in this way? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CowbJ-0007XN-Ot - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:28:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CowbH-0007Wz-Ug - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:28:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CowaH-0007OH-IR - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:27:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CowaC-0007Ga-MM - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:27:40 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cow3x-00089x-NW - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:54:21 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j0D3sIN04688; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:54:18 -0500 (EST) -To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: Graphics in patch 23] Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:53:05 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: re: Graphics in patch 23] On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:50:51 -0500, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -19553,8 +12620,8 @@ On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:50:51 -0500, Tim Daly wrote: > > cd axiom--main--1--patch-23 > tla update -> export AXIOM=3D`pwd`/mnt/solaris9 -> export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +> export AXIOM=`pwd`/mnt/solaris9 +> export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH > make > > and it should not need to rebuild the world. Of course, it never hurts @@ -19594,78 +12661,21 @@ $AXIOM/bin/hypertex -s' -clefprog '' -sessionprog '$AXIOM/lib/session' -c= lientprog '$AXIOM/lib/spadclient' -rm Segmentation Fault (core dumped) bash-2.05$ - - Kostas - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CowmM-0002iZ-KA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:40:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CowmJ-0002hq-RI - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:40:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CowmI-0002h6-JN - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:40:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CowmI-0002ga-AK - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:40:10 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cowad-0002kT-P7 - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:28:07 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0D4S1E03964; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:28:02 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0D58W314805; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:08:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:08:32 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: Re: Graphics in patch 23] - -Cc: list, Tim Daly Kostas, Try the -noclef option. Methinks clef isn't working for you. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cox6h-0007Ai-0i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:01:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cox3W-0006VA-GD - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:57:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cox3B-0006Ny-OT - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:57:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cox3A-0006LE-VX - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:57:36 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cowns-00040U-4A - for list; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:41:48 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0D4fcE12761; - Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:41:38 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0D5M0Y14815; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:22:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:22:00 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependen - cies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Bill, @@ -19687,43 +12697,12 @@ is coded into the infovec as: I'll have to look deeper into this issue. Methinks you are on to something. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Coxd8-0005dy-Q7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:34:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Coxd6-0005dM-Hj - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:34:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Coxas-0005BP-Op - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:32:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Coxas-00053z-I1 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:32:26 -0500 -Received: from [203.52.176.30] (helo=br-dmz.paradigmgeo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cox7I-0005q5-Ss - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:01:54 -0500 -Received: from water ([192.168.180.42]) - by br-dmz.paradigmgeo.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id j0D5MRcZ010030; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:22:29 +1000 -From: Mike Thomas -To: "Bill Page \(E-mail\)" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:05:52 +1000 - boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01C4F981.5FBBD820" -Cc: list, Tim Daly, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Tim Daly +From: Mike Thomas +To: Bill Page Subject: RE: [Gcl-devel] Axiom on Windows GCL problems -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - -------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C4F981.5FBBD820 - charset="iso-8859-1" - Hi Bill. | I presume that you have been extraordinarily busy (as usual) @@ -19884,55 +12863,11 @@ Cheers, > of rawSystem, and once we fix rawSystem in light of the \\\" hack I > discovered above. > -> Cheers, -> Simon -> _______________________________________________ -> Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list -> Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org -> http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users -> -_______________________________________________ -Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list -Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org -http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users - - -------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C4F981.5FBBD820-- - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp01r-00013X-VJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:07:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp1sm-0000A6-9x - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:07:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp1sj-00009O-GW - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:07:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp1r8-00080s-4r - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:05:30 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp1JC-0000Zk-6U - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:30:26 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 73461107084; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:30:22 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin149.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.149]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857BE10708B - for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:30:21 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:30:28 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list -Subject: Comments are wanted on for i in 1..1 repeat - print(sin(i) :: Complex Float) +Subject: Comments are wanted on for i in 1..1 repeat print(sin(i) :: Complex Float) Hello all, @@ -20197,46 +13022,11 @@ rate this as a bug. If I am not right, why? Much thanks for any help/hints in advance. - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp1t2-0000EZ-IS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:07:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp1sr-0000BW-MN - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:07:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp1so-0000Al-Qn - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:07:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp1r8-00080s-NB - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:05:30 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.133] (helo=out010.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp1J7-0000ZX-5V - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:30:21 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out010.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050113093020.YOAR24714.out010.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:30:20 -0600 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:30:35 -0500 From: William Sit To: Ralf Hemmecke, - list, aldor-l -Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains - andAldorreturntypes - <41E54A4F.6030106@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> - <41E55790.13F17A55@cunyvm.cuny.edu> <41E629A9.90330C1C@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - [162.83.133.69] at Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:30:19 -0600 -Cc: - - +Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types William Sit wrote: > @@ -20280,34 +13070,10 @@ Bill: Thanks for putting up the DynamicFunctionDomains on mathaction. However, I was not able to edit it (rather, when I preview or save, it says "cannot find server" after some wait). - -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp3HV-0002CX-H6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:36:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp3HL-00029p-Pn - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:36:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp3HG-00027e-4o - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:36:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp3HF-00020t-2P - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:36:33 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp2yw-0003OF-34 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:17:38 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0DBHGMw563226; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:17:21 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:14:41 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: list, Tim Daly -Cc: Subject: hyperdoc Dear Tim, * @@ -20319,36 +13085,11 @@ except with the middle button of my mouse (pasting). I vaguely remember that this was not always the case, but I cannot be certain. Any hint? -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp3R8-0005F9-62 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:46:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp3Qt-00058B-SE - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:46:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp3Qp-00057G-UH - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:46:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp3Qn-00052V-Jm - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:46:25 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp3Br-00061T-57 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:30:59 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0DBUXMw051354; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:30:36 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:27:58 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Vladimir Bondarenko -Subject: Re: Comments are wanted on for i in 1..1 repeat - print(sin(i) :: Complex Float) -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Comments are wanted on for i in 1..1 repeat print(sin(i) :: Complex Float) Dear Vladimir, @@ -20425,36 +13166,11 @@ Martin Please go ahead and send a report to IssueTracker and Savannah. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp5jp-0000Xo-4s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:14:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp5jn-0000UY-GR - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:14:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp5dd-0007DA-J3 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:07:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp5dS-00073B-6N - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:07:38 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp5IL-0007VQ-Er - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:45:49 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j0DDjlN02480; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:45:48 -0500 (EST) -To: Tim Daly -Subject: Re: Graphics in patch 23] - - <200501130508.j0D58W314805@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:44:35 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou -Cc: list, Tim Daly +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Graphics in patch 23] On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:08:32 -0500, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -20467,42 +13183,11 @@ I tried "axiom -ht -noclef -go", if that's what you meant, and got fork_Axiom: Failed to reopen server: No such file or directory - Kostas - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6Xs-0005ox-Vb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:05:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6Xo-0005oJ-FA - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:05:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6Ud-0005F8-0a - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp6Ua-000565-PU - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:32 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.143] (helo=out005.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp63P-0005gb-Ru - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:34:28 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out005.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050113143425.XIVE28362.out005.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:34:25 -0600 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:34:41 -0500 From: William Sit -To: Vladimir Bondarenko, list, - Martin Rubey, Tim Daly -Subject: Re: Comments are wanted on for i in - 1..1repeatprint(sin(i) :: Complex Float) - <41E68602.D332F243@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - [162.83.133.69] at Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:34:25 -0600 -Cc: - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------75C524AE1059A89A6CB3DC03 +To: Vladimir Bondarenko, Martin Rubey, Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Comments are wanted on for i in 1..1repeatprint(sin(i) :: Complex Float) Here print.out (sorry) @@ -20862,34 +13547,10 @@ Finished compiling j:/OpenAxiom/axiom/mnt/windows/lib/PRINTEST.NRLIB/code.lsp. Type: Void (5) -> )spool ---------------75C524AE1059A89A6CB3DC03-- - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6aP-0006hR-6s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:08:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6aN-0006gY-9j - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:08:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6aM-0006gA-Eg - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:08:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp6Uw-000565-SB - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:54 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp5sg-0004Sw-2E - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:23:22 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0DEMrMw344356; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:22:58 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:20:17 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Martin Rubey -Cc: list, Tim Daly Subject: Re: hyperdoc Dear Tim, @@ -20917,36 +13578,11 @@ Martin Rubey writes: > I vaguely remember that this was not always the case, but I cannot be > certain. Any hint? > - > Martin - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6bf-00070v-Ox - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:09:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6Ue-0005GC-Ok - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6UR-00056k-1V - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp6UQ-000565-Rg - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:22 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.143] (helo=out005.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp6GG-0007Os-7T - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:47:44 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out005.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050113144743.XNET28362.out005.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:47:43 -0600 + +\start Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:47:58 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bill Page - [162.83.133.69] at Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:47:42 -0600 -Cc: list Subject: Windows space in directory/file names Hi Bill: @@ -21006,39 +13642,12 @@ William > everything in lisp. Right now the only work-around is to > re-install Axiom for Windows in a location that does not > have any spaces in the Path. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6bx-00077G-3A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:10:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6bu-00076j-IP - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:10:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6bt-00076N-17 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:10:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp6Ue-000565-VN - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:38 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.133] (helo=out010.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp5zI-0005CT-Lw - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:30:13 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out010.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050113143011.JOW24714.out010.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:30:11 -0600 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:30:26 -0500 From: William Sit To: Vladimir Bondarenko Subject: Re: Comments are wanted on for i in 1..1 - repeatprint(sin(i) :: Complex Float) - [162.83.133.69] at Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:30:10 -0600 -Cc: list, Tim Daly Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: > -> for i in 1..1 repeat print(sin(i) :: Complex Float) @@ -21249,77 +13858,12 @@ the segment is 1..1 or 1..3). Type: Void (3) -> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- -William Sit -Department of Mathematics....Email: William Sit -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -Convent Ave at West 138th Street........Fax: 212-862-0004 -New York, NY 10031..Axiom, A Scientific Computation Sytem -USA............... http://www.nongnu.org/axiom/index.html - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6cq-0007QO-FQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:11:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6co-0007Pi-Ji - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:11:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6cn-0007Ow-KF - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:11:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6Uv-000565-RE; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:53 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Cp5vz-0004rb-S0; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:26:48 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Cp5pX-0008MS-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:20:07 -0500 -To: Tim Daly -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 13 Jan 2005 09:20:07 -0500 -Cc: Charles Miller, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org -Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] [Charles Miller: - magnus and axiom questions] +From: Camm Maguire +To: Tim Daly +Cc: Charles Miller +Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] [Charles Miller: magnus and axiom questions] Greetings! I have access to a testing machine which used to run FC2 and now appears to be upgraded to FC3. How do I tell for sure? (just @@ -21370,53 +13914,13 @@ Tim Daly writes: > So I am mystified as to how one can get gcl and axiom to compile. > > All help and suggestions welcome. -> -> Regards, -> Chuck -> ---------- -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Gcl-devel mailing list -> Gcl-devel@gnu.org -> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gcl-devel -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6du-0007wa-UM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:12:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6ds-0007vb-As - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:12:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6dr-0007vB-3K - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:12:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6Ub-000565-VT; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:34 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Cp600-0005I4-MT; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:30:56 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Cp5zm-0000QK-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:30:42 -0500 -To: "Bill Page \(E-mail\)" -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 13 Jan 2005 09:30:42 -0500 -Cc: Mike Thomas, - list, Tim Daly, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - "'Tim Daly'" Tim Daly +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Axiom on Windows GCL problems +Cc: Mike Thomas Greetings! @@ -21520,55 +14024,13 @@ Bill Page writes: > remain especially on the windows platform - but maybe under > linux as well even though users much less frequently employ > paths with spaces under linux. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Gcl-devel mailing list -> Gcl-devel@gnu.org -> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gcl-devel -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6uE-0005e5-Hy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:29:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6uC-0005d6-QV - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:29:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp6uB-0005cL-Ie - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:28:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp6uA-0005c5-Pf - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:28:58 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp6iH-0003Lp-PK - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:16:42 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0DFGQMw432042; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:16:30 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:13:50 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: William Sit -Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and - Aldorreturntypes - <41E54A4F.6030106@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> - <41E55790.13F17A55@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - <41E629A9.90330C1C@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -Cc: Marcus Better Marcus Better, list, - Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types +Cc: Marcus Better, Ralf Hemmecke William Sit writes: @@ -21631,38 +14093,11 @@ wants to define a function as follows: > The result will be a Laurent series over one of these repeated extensions, > which I would like to return. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7NK-0003eX-Le - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:59:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7N7-0003Yo-6N - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:58:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7N0-0003TZ-Ul - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:58:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp7N0-0003S7-PD - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:58:46 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp75d-0005x3-Pd - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:40:49 -0500 -Received: from beer.intern ([83.169.131.64]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0DFehE22456; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:40:46 -0600 +Date: 13 Jan 2005 16:40:44 +0100 +From: Tim Daly Jr To: William Sit Subject: Re: Windows space in directory/file names - <41E68A1E.C45EB35A@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -From: Tim Daly Jr -Date: 13 Jan 2005 16:40:44 +0100 -Cc: list - ---=-=-= William Sit writes: @@ -21750,41 +14185,10 @@ int printShortPath(const char *longPath) { return retval; } ---=-=-= - - - --- --Tim - ---=-=-=-- - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7Z2-00066p-HV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:11:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7Yy-00065R-HT - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:11:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7Yt-00061v-23 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:11:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp7Yq-0005zm-CI - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:11:00 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7Hh-0007f4-56 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:53:17 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0DFqsMw610480; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:52:57 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:50:18 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page -Cc: list, aldor-l Subject: RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types Dear Bill, @@ -21805,41 +14209,12 @@ Page, Bill writes: Yes. And it is rather tricky to use the functions defined there in compiled code... -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7dT-0008K3-Cu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:15:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7dR-0008Jo-CA - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:15:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7dQ-0008Ja-Kz - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:15:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp7NE-0003S7-Ti - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:59:01 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7BY-0006fn-V5 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:46:57 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DFkhKe000883; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:46:44 -0600 +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:46:43 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:46:43 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomDocumentation] - -??changed: --Cette page a été renommée en «axiom documentation and community». Vous pouvez supprimer celle-ci si elle n'est plus requise. -- This information was last updated on Oct 24, 2004 @@ -22041,42 +14416,15 @@ NEW DEVELOPMENT (29/108) src structure [383 more lines...] --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDocumentation#msg20050113094643-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7fc-00015B-LQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:18:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7fZ-00014O-QM - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:17:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7fY-00013d-AP - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:17:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp7fX-000130-Hu - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:17:55 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7QB-0000HX-SV - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:02:05 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DG1fKe019610; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:01:42 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:01:41 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:01:41 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [TodoList] - -??changed: --To do list for free Axiom "1.0" stable release -Tim keeps a detailed "current state":AxiomCurrentState of Axiom. Those items which should be completed for the -first public release of Axiom, version 3.0, are listed here: +Tim keeps a detailed "current state":AxiomCurrentState of Axiom. Those +items which should be completed for the first public release of Axiom, +version 3.0, are listed here: ??changed: - - Axiom Book in PDF format. Proofreading of the book @@ -22127,110 +14475,25 @@ first public release of Axiom, version 3.0, are listed here: - - Original from: http://www.linux-france.org/~dmentre/axiom/release-1.0/todo-list-for-1.0.html --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/TodoList#msg20050113100141-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7jl-0003KU-WF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:22:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7jj-0003K1-It - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:22:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7jh-0003J7-Tq - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:22:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp7jh-0003IR-7g - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:22:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7W0-00014e-0Q - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:08:04 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7Bf-0000QJ-S0 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:47:03 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DFktKe001210; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:46:56 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:46:55 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:46:55 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomCurrentState] (renamed) This page was renamed from AxiomDocumentation to AxiomCurrentState. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomCurrentState#msg20050113094655-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7uw-00071I-9p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:33:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7uu-00070x-6d - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:33:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7ut-00070A-1v - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:33:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp7us-0006zo-HW - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:33:46 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7gK-0002Zr-9v - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:18:44 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DGIbKe010653; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:18:37 -0600 -From: MathAction (kratt6) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:18:37 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [sponsor] - - -++added: - -Thank you! - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/Sponsor#msg20050113101837-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7uw-00071a-Qf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:33:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7uu-000715-Ou - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:33:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp7us-00070M-S6 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:33:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp7us-0006zo-LN - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:33:46 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7fZ-0002Ub-VP - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:17:58 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DGHjKe008885; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:17:45 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:17:45 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:17:45 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [sponsor] (nouveau) -Axiom is currently supported by CAISS, the Center for Algorithms and Interactive Scientific Software. CAISS is a joint effort of the Computer Science and Mathematics Departments of The City College of New York, part of the City University system. Support by CAISS and CCNY is gratefully acknowledged. In particular, the support by +Axiom is currently supported by CAISS, the Center for Algorithms and +Interactive Scientific Software. CAISS is a joint effort of the +Computer Science and Mathematics Departments of The City College of +New York, part of the City University system. Support by CAISS and +CCNY is gratefully acknowledged. In particular, the support by |---------------------------------------------------------------------| | Matthew Goldstein | CUNY | Chancellor | @@ -22247,117 +14510,25 @@ Axiom is currently supported by CAISS, the Center for Algorithms and Interactive |---------------------------------------------------------------------| | Ed Grossman | CCNY | Mathematics Chair | |---------------------------------------------------------------------| --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/Sponsor#msg20050113101743-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Y2-0000H6-QQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:14:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Y1-0000Gg-Vo - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:14:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Y1-0000GU-JH - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:14:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8WB-000875-AJ - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:19 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7x0-0004Wf-F2 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:35:58 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DGZnKe002017; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:35:49 -0600 + +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:35:49 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:35:49 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Axiom documentation and community] - -??changed: -- Working towards Axiom Release 1.0 Working towards the next Axiom Release --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDocumentationAndCommunity#msg20050113103549-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Yf-0000WW-KI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:14:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Yc-0000V1-Te - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:14:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Yb-0000US-9x - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:14:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8WC-000875-0S - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:20 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7wL-0004TX-Ob - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:35:17 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DGZ7Ke001038; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:35:08 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:35:06 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:35:06 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [FrontPage] - -??changed: -- other Computer Algebra systems. Axiom and Reduce grew up as children -- together. Over the years they have gone quite separate ways but now they are -- back [playing together] again here. In the future, we will provide this -- functionality also for Maxima, and perhaps others. Meanwhile, you might want -- to have a look at the [Rosetta Stone]. -- -- The AxiomFoundation serves as the "official" channel through which we intend -- to promote the development and maintenance of the open source version of Axiom -- through the dispersement of donations and sponsorship money to Axiom-related activities. -- --- Learn more [about Axiom], more "about Reduce":ReduceWiki, or more [about MathAction] -- --- Try Axiom "online":AxiomInterface right here or "download Axiom":AxiomDownload now. -- Chose an optional [User Interface] such as TeXmacs or Emacs -- --- Read the "Axiom documentation":AxiomDocumentationAndCommunity, including short getting -- started tutorials and the "Axiom book":http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/Plone/refs/books/axiom-book2.pdf (1000+ pages) -- --- Find out about the [Axiom Development] project and other [Related Projects] --[5 more lines...] [other Computer Algebra systems]. The [Rosetta Stone] intends to demonstrate how things are done in different systems. Here, on MathAction, you can "try out":PlayingTogether various Computer Algebra Systems online. -- Learn more [about Axiom] or more [about MathAction] - -- Try "Axiom online":AxiomInterface or "download Axiom":AxiomDownload. Chose an - optional [User Interface] such as TeXmacs or Emacs - -- "Documentation":AxiomDocumentationAndCommunity for Axiom is abundant: it - ranges from short introductory tutorials to the comprehensive "Axiom - book":http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/Plone/refs/books/axiom-book2.pdf - -- We keep a list of [Axiom problems], and, if available, their solutions - -- When you have found a bug, please - "report":http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage/issuetracker - it, after having made sure that it is not already known - -- Another goal of this site is to coordinate the future - "development":AxiomDevelopment of Axiom - The AxiomFoundation serves as the "official" channel through which we intend to promote the development and maintenance of the open source version of Axiom through the dispersement of donations and sponsorship money to @@ -22366,118 +14537,38 @@ Axiom-related activities. Furthermore, we wish to express our gratitude to our [ "CAISS":http://zebra.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/web/caiss/main.htm The CAISS seal --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage#msg20050113103506-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Yh-0000Y1-Ud - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:14:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Yg-0000XQ-Og - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:14:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Yf-0000Wd-OK - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:14:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8WF-0008H0-Il - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:23 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7n3-0003TY-O7 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:25:42 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DGPUKe020176; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:25:30 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:25:30 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:25:30 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AboutAxiom] +There are some [screenshots] available and you can try out Axiom +"online":AxiomInterface! -++added: - -There are some [screenshots] available and you can try out Axiom "online":AxiomInterface! - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AboutAxiom#msg20050113102530-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Z1-0000eR-ND - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:15:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Yz-0000dN-Hi - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:15:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Yw-0000cw-TD - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:15:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8WE-0008H0-GD - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:22 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7qt-0003vF-9N - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:29:39 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DGTSKe025789; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:29:28 -0600 +\start From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:29:28 -0600 Cc: Subject: [screenshots] (nouveau) -Some matrix computations under TeXmacs. Please notice the hierarchical editing capabilities of TeXmacs. +Some matrix computations under TeXmacs. Please notice the hierarchical +editing capabilities of TeXmacs. -Axiom is running under Windows. This is a screenshot of Axiom running on Windows in a TeXmacs window: +Axiom is running under Windows. This is a screenshot of Axiom running +on Windows in a TeXmacs window: --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/Screenshots#msg20050113102928-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8a6-00013y-Aw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:16:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8a5-00013c-Eb - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:16:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8WN-0008Kg-1P - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8WG-000875-O4 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:24 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp7l0-0003EU-69 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:23:34 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DGNMKe017205; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:23:22 -0600 + +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:23:22 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:23:22 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AboutAxiom] - -??changed: -- Efforts are underway to extend this software to (a) develop a better user -- interface (b) make it useful as a teaching tool (c) develop an algebra server -- protocol (d) integrate additional mathematics (e) rebuild the algebra in a -- literate programming style (f) integrate logic programming (g) develop an -- Axiom Journal with refereed submissions. Efforts are underway to extend this software to - develop a better user interface @@ -22494,186 +14585,30 @@ Subject: [AboutAxiom] - develop an Axiom Journal with refereed submissions. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AboutAxiom#msg20050113102322-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8ad-0001HN-42 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:16:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8W4-0008HN-8g - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Vx-0008DG-ML - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8Vw-000875-Gu - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:04 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp83y-0005Nf-RC - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:43:10 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DGh1Ke012081; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:43:01 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:43:01 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:43:01 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomProblem] - -??changed: --Cette page a été renommée en «EXPR_GCD». Vous pouvez supprimer celle-ci si elle n'est plus requise. -- - The "foundations":AxiomDevelopment of Axioms development model - "Why Arch":ArchRationale? - "Using Arch":ArchUsage --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomProblem#msg20050113104301-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8aj-0001Ks-Rw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:17:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8W9-0008Ip-N0 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Vt-00089q-Oe - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8Vq-000875-TP - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:11:58 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp87n-0005s8-0z - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:47:07 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DGkxKe017683; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:46:59 -0600 -From: MathAction (kratt6) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:46:59 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [AxiomDevelopment] - - -??changed: --- The "foundations":AxiomDevelopment of Axioms development model -- The "foundations":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations of Axioms development model - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDevelopment#msg20050113104659-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8WM-0008Kc-Qa - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Vz-0008Cr-9s - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Vs-0008AR-8H - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8Vr-000875-Mt - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:11:59 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp874-0005lJ-Q7 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:46:22 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DGkFKe016695; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:46:15 -0600 -From: MathAction (kratt6) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:46:15 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [AxiomDevelopment] - - -??changed: --Cette page a été renommée en «AxiomDevelopmentFoundations». 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ARCH?! We don't need arch!!! @@ -22708,90 +14643,10 @@ So individually it will be painful but process-wise it will be easier. I ask for your patience as we open up the development process. There is no such thing as a simple job. -*Tim* --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/ArchRationale#msg20050113105014-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8W6-0008If-Tu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Vx-0008En-W2 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8Vr-00089S-11 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:11:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8Vq-000875-BY - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:11:58 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp88c-0005yi-5n - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:47:58 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DGlkKe018740; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:47:46 -0600 -From: MathAction (kratt6) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:47:46 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [AxiomDevelopmentFoundations] - - ---removed: -- -- --

Arch? ARCH?! We don't need arch!!!

-- --Why arch? Why not CVS? I've been using CVS for the past few years and --now I've run into the same problem that the Linux kernel people --solved. The problem is that CVS is unable to handle "changesets" and --"branching" easily. EASILY. Arch can. -- -- --Changesets are a group of changes to several files that are all handled --as one big change. Thus if we make a fix that involves 10 files we can --apply and retract the changes all at one time. This is technically --possible with CVS if you carefully tag every file before applying the --change. However there are thousands of files in axiom and mistakes --are very hard to correct. Arch allows this to occur as one command. --So CVS treats each file change as different and arch combines many --semantically-related changes into one "changeset". -- --[20 more lines...] - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#msg20050113104746-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8kP-0005J9-Ov - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:27:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8kI-0005G1-V9 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:26:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8k5-00059C-FQ - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:26:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8k2-00055l-LY - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:26:38 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp8Qk-00007q-Tu - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:06:43 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DH6SKe012906; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:06:28 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:06:28 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:06:28 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [ArchUsage] (nouveau) Axiom development is now hosted on an Arch server running on @@ -22941,47 +14796,13 @@ or for the vi fans:: Finally you commit the changes with:: tla commit --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/ArchUsage#msg20050113110626-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8kP-0005JH-UQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:27:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8kL-0005Gz-6K - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:26:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8kI-0005F0-Td - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:26:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8k1-00055l-VG; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:26:38 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Cp8Ri-0000HK-1x; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:07:42 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Cp8RN-00053P-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:07:21 -0500 -To: Sandip Ray - - <543bxhfc5d.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54acrp13w3.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54acrjais2.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54llb1djo0.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54sm56wtz3.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire + +\start Date: 13 Jan 2005 12:07:16 -0500 -Cc: maxima , list, - Tim Daly, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Matt Kaufmann +From: Camm Maguire +To: Sandip Ray Subject: GCL 2.6.5 on FC3 +Cc: Matt Kaufmann Greetings! @@ -23330,412 +15151,128 @@ Sandip Ray writes: > #5 FUNCALL {loc0=#,loc1=nil,loc2=0,loc3=0,loc4=nil,loc5...} [ihs=4] > NIL > ACL2>> -> -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8oa-0006NP-BB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:31:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8oX-0006Lk-En - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:31:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8oU-0006JB-6V - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:31:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8oU-0006J4-4B - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:31:14 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp8aC-0001G4-Vn - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:16:29 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DHG9Ke026148; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:16:09 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:16:09 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:16:09 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomDevelopmentFoundations] - -??changed: --Step 1 -- of the process is that a new "arch branch" will get created. Step 1 -- of the process is that a new "arch branch" will get created. -??changed: --Step 2 -- is the documentation phase. Step 2 -- is the documentation phase. -??changed: --Step 3 -- is the testing phase. Step 3 -- is the testing phase. -??changed: --Step 4 -- is the integration phase. Step 4 -- is the integration phase. -??changed: --Step 5 is the compile farm (issue two) Step 5 is the compile farm (issue two) -??changed: --Step 6 -- is the savannah CVS change Step 6 -- is the savannah CVS change -??changed: -- --Step 7 -- is the binary release Step 7 -- is the binary release -??changed: --Step 8 -- is the spreading-tarball problem. Step 8 -- is the spreading-tarball problem. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#msg20050113111609-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8pW-0006o5-Mz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:32:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8pU-0006lJ-6k - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:32:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8pS-0006kB-8m - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:32:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8pR-0006j8-To - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:32:13 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp8dW-0001ft-8g - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:19:54 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DHJMKe030860; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:19:22 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:19:22 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:19:22 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [ArchUsage] - -??changed: -- Currently in step 4 of development. Currently in "step 4":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#step4 of development. -??changed: -- Currently in step 1 of development. Currently in "step 1":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#step1 of development. -??changed: -- Currently in step 1 of development. Currently in "step 1":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#step1 of development. -??changed: -- Currently in step 1 of development. Currently in "step 1":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#step1 of development. -??changed: -- Currently in step 1 of development. Currently in "step 1":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#step1 of development. -??changed: -- Currently in step 1 of development. Currently in "step 1":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#step1 of development. -??changed: -- Currently in step 1 of development. Currently in "step 1":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#step1 of development. -??changed: -- Currently in step 1 of development. Currently in "step 1":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#step1 of development. -??changed: -- Currently in step 1 of development. Currently in "step 1":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#step1 of development. -??changed: -- Currently in step 1 of development. Currently in "step 1":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#step1 of development. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/ArchUsage#msg20050113111922-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8rR-0007pd-6U - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:34:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8rK-0007oe-VN - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:34:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp8rJ-0007nl-EI - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:34:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp8rJ-0007ni-9M - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:34:09 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp8f3-0001uo-KI - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:21:29 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DHL0Ke000786; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:21:00 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:21:00 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:21:00 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomDevelopmentFoundations] +Step 1 -- of the process is that a new "arch +branch" will get created. -??changed: --Step 1 -- of the process is that a new "arch branch" will get created. -Step 1 -- of the process is that a new "arch branch" will get created. - -??changed: --Step 2 -- is the documentation phase. Step 2 -- is the documentation phase. -??changed: --Step 3 -- is the testing phase. Step 3 -- is the testing phase. -??changed: --Step 4 -- is the integration phase. Step 4 -- is the integration phase. -??changed: --Step 5 is the compile farm (issue two) Step 5 is the compile farm (issue two) -??changed: --Step 6 -- is the savannah CVS change Step 6 -- is the savannah CVS change -??changed: --Step 7 -- is the binary release Step 7 -- is the binary release -??changed: --Step 8 -- is the spreading-tarball problem. Step 8 -- is the spreading-tarball problem. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDevelopmentFoundations#msg20050113112100-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9KH-0006hX-RG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:04:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9KF-0006gB-4O - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:04:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9FQ-0005rp-Qw - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:59:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp9FK-0005ja-Q9 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:58:58 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp8rg-0003B3-T1 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:34:33 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DHYCKe017832; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:34:13 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:34:12 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:34:12 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [TodoList] - -??changed: --Tim keeps a detailed "current state":AxiomCurrentState of Axiom. Those items which should be completed for the --first public release of Axiom, version 3.0, are listed here: The last release was "Axiom 3.0 Beta":Axiom30Beta. Tim keeps a detailed "current state":AxiomCurrentState of Axiom. Those items which should be completed for the first stable public release of Axiom, version 3.0, are listed here: --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/TodoList#msg20050113113412-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9KI-0006hy-JA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:04:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9KG-0006h1-NB - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:04:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9FQ-0005u8-Vj - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:59:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp9FN-0005ja-RY - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:59:01 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp8mB-0002cA-HR - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:28:51 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DHShKe011554; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:28:43 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:28:43 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:28:43 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Axiom documentation and community] - -??changed: --Axiom Mailinglists -- -- Several mailing lists are available: -- Axiom Mailinglists and IRC Channel - Several ways to contact the community are available. There is an irc channel where developers can find other developers. It is:: + Several ways to contact the community are available. There is an irc + channel where developers can find other developers. It is:: server: irc.freenode.net channel:#axiom-developer The mailinglists are: - -++added: - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDocumentationAndCommunity#msg20050113112843-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9Kp-0006wr-Rj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:04:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9FV-0005uh-6D - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:59:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9FD-0005kD-HU - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:58:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp9FD-0005ja-BO - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:58:51 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp928-00048T-6p - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:45:20 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DHj7Ke000313; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:45:07 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:45:07 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:45:07 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [TodoList] -??changed: -- - Resurrection of biding to numerical libraries - Resurrection of binding to numerical libraries --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/TodoList#msg20050113114507-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9Fk-0005zj-Gh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:59:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9FZ-0005xB-SY - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:59:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9FL-0005qu-03 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:59:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp9FJ-0005ja-Q5 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:58:57 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp8t5-0003J7-GI - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:35:59 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DHZYKe019662; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:35:34 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:35:34 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:35:34 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [TodoList] +The last release was "Axiom 3.0 Beta":Axiom-Release-3.0-Beta. Tim +keeps a detailed -??changed: --The last release was "Axiom 3.0 Beta":Axiom30Beta. Tim keeps a detailed -The last release was "Axiom 3.0 Beta":Axiom-Release-3.0-Beta. Tim keeps a detailed - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/TodoList#msg20050113113534-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9Td-0002Lv-0E - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:13:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9TX-0002Ji-EN - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:13:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9TU-0002I4-TQ - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:13:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp9TU-0002Hp-MB - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:13:36 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp9Hb-0006Iw-Am - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:01:19 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Cp9HS-0006nV-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:01:10 -0500 +\start +Date: 13 Jan 2005 13:01:10 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly Subject: re: Axiom/Aldor - <41E5B19B.80002@hemmecke.de> - <200501130021.j0D0L0A14471@localhost.localdomain> - <41E5BB31.7020303@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> - <200501130058.j0D0wX014533@localhost.localdomain> - <41E5C5C6.6030701@hemmecke.de> - <200501130355.j0D3tCj14766@localhost.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 13 Jan 2005 13:01:10 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@nongnu.org - -Greetings! Tim Daly writes: @@ -23773,68 +15310,12 @@ wants automated building on Debian, 'apt-get -q -b source gcl' will either produce an installable .deb or fail listing the build-dependencies which are missing. -Take care, - -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9kz-0008Tt-Te - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:31:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9kx-0008So-8G - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:31:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cp9kt-0008RN-N0 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:31:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cp9kt-0008R0-Ig - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:31:35 -0500 -Received: from [128.83.139.10] (helo=mail.cs.utexas.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp9YO-0008AE-J3 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:18:40 -0500 -Received: from standrews.cs.utexas.edu (sandip@standrews.cs.utexas.edu - [128.83.144.166]) - by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id j0DIHn9i007705; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:17:49 -0600 (CST) -Received: (from sandip@localhost) - by standrews.cs.utexas.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0DIHnje012787; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:17:49 -0600 +\start Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:17:48 -0600 (CST) From: Sandip Ray To: Camm Maguire - - <543bxhfc5d.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54acrp13w3.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54acrjais2.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54llb1djo0.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54sm56wtz3.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54pt091cmz.fsf_-_@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: maxima , list, - Tim Daly, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Matt Kaufmann Subject: Re: GCL 2.6.5 on FC3 +Cc: Matt Kaufmann Hello. I just wanted to report that I have been able to successfully build ACL2 (both version 2.9 and incremental release 2.9.1) with GCL on FC3 @@ -24201,33 +15682,10 @@ On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Camm Maguire wrote: \\ \\ - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAFV-0006sk-G2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:03:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAFT-0006qU-Ng - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:03:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAEX-0006XZ-T4 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpAEP-0006Va-7O - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:05 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.25] (helo=tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp9vC-0001We-LF - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:42:14 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.184]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050113184213.LKOY2026.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:42:13 -0500 +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:42:34 -0500 From: Bill Page To: William Sit -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:42:34 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list Subject: RE: Windows space in directory/file names William, @@ -24245,41 +15703,11 @@ forget this and do not test some of the specialised coding that they do when processing file names. It is just a matter of testing, finding such problems and fixing them. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAFj-00072o-Ru - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:03:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAFf-00070d-0a - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:03:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAEN-0006V1-HL - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpAEN-0006Uh-9r - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:03 -0500 -Received: from [216.136.173.88] (helo=web12204.mail.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpA2W-0002GK-F0 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:49:48 -0500 -Received: (qmail 47513 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jan 2005 18:49:47 -0000 -Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - b=uxl+bU+O92JTYAf12fg4n0o94PIFWdRUv6tWwOAGbeztncRpS6ZL4c4D5bOfAMwfPgGxxxCY4EjeKnJrXEo44TVHtjPNXxu/88KK8JmAo/HNh6qX/kqSwOZBH7bmoiSEBSjaXs3LQnho0IvCj2EVvR6p3tHl6etsvBy6h7Xu2lM= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.204] by web12204.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:49:46 PST Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:49:46 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: hyperdoc To: Martin Rubey -Cc: list - +Subject: re: hyperdoc --- Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -24292,46 +15720,11 @@ with it's UI, too! My prof discovered it by accident, and so whenever we would get random freeze-ups we'd go around and toggle num-lock. (Ah, life without being able to afford upgrades. Ain't it fun?) -CY - - - - -__________________________________ -Do you Yahoo!? -Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. -http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAFk-00072z-86 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:03:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAFg-000714-En - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:03:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAEN-0006VO-MG - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpAEN-0006Uh-Gg - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:03 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.74] (helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpA2Q-0002Fm-QE - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:49:43 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.184]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050113184936.FSBO2034.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:49:36 -0500 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:49:53 -0500 From: Bill Page -To: "'Tim Daly Jr.'" +To: Tim Daly Jr. Subject: RE: Windows space in directory/file names -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:49:53 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list - -Tim, Thanks for pointing out short path names on Windows. Yes, I think this is very useful for supporting old lagacy @@ -24369,44 +15762,13 @@ On Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:41 AM you wrote: > the latter. I've attached the utility. gcc shouldn't > need any special flags to compile it in MinGW. Maybe you > guys can cannibalize it for axiom. -> -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAFl-00073t-T8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:03:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAEc-0006fM-KW - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAEQ-0006Yk-OY - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpAEQ-0006Va-0j - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp9qh-00015g-IF - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:37:35 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.34] (helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cp9nw-0005dx-M9 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:34:44 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.184]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050113183436.DDND1899.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:34:36 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: "'Camm Maguire'" Camm Maguire Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:34:49 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: Mike Thomas, - list, Tim Daly, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Tim Daly +From: Bill Page +To: Camm Maguire Subject: RE: [Gcl-devel] Axiom on Windows GCL problems +Cc: Mike Thomas Camm, @@ -24444,34 +15806,12 @@ On Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:31 AM you wrote: > (if (and (boundp '*c-debug*) *c-debug*) " -g " "") > - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAL5-00012F-Rf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:09:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAL1-00010C-1w - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:08:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAKu-0000vd-Cu - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:08:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpAKt-0000tG-OC; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:08:47 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CpA5O-0002gi-PV; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:52:46 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CpA5J-0000Qp-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:52:41 -0500 -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 13 Jan 2005 13:52:41 -0500 -Cc: Mike Thomas, - list, Tim Daly, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Tim Daly +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Axiom on Windows GCL problems +Cc: Mike Thomas Greetings! OK, how about @@ -24516,45 +15856,12 @@ Bill Page writes: > > *cc* > > (concatenate 'string si::*system-directory* "../h") > > (if (and (boundp '*c-debug*) *c-debug*) " -g " "") -> > -> -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpB68-0006do-Cb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:57:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpB63-0006bb-FS - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:57:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpB5y-0006aG-UN - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:57:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpB5y-0006Y6-M5 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:57:26 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpAqp-0007S0-VV - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:41:48 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DJfTKe031488; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:41:29 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:41:29 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:41:29 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Axiom-mail] RE: Axiom Users, - Axiom Programmers and Axiom Developers +Subject: Axiom Programmers and Axiom Developers Axiom * @@ -24668,48 +15975,11 @@ http://prdownloads.sf.net/mingw/binutils-2.15.91-20040904-1.tar.gz?download > configuration. You will be able to create, modify and > compile spad files to create your own customized mathematical > library. -> - - -_______________________________________________ -Axiom-mail mailing list -Axiom-mail@nongnu.org -http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-mail - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomMail#msg006501c4f9a6$64cc3b50$6601a8c0@Asus - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBef-0006SM-Am - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:33:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBec-0006Rd-S6 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:33:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBay-0005bO-Lp - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:29:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpBaw-0005Tb-1N - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:29:26 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpBAx-0000zO-00 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:02:35 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0DK2UE14326; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:30 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0DKgwU15602; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:42:58 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:42:58 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey - Rubey on Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:20:17 +0100) - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> -Cc: list, Tim Daly Subject: Re: hyperdoc Martin, @@ -24746,41 +16016,12 @@ into TeXmacs or expand it to become more of the "crystal" idea. But much design discussion has to occur before we trek off into new areas and we're not ready yet. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBmr-00082W-Vi - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:41:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBmq-000828-Lr - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:41:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBb9-0005ez-Vg - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:29:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBap-0005Tb-4z; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:29:19 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CpBGm-0001Ox-PG; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:08:36 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0DK6TE16620; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:06:29 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0DKkrw15610; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:46:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:46:53 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire - on 13 Jan 2005 09:20:07 -0500) - <54fz15csx4.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: Charles Miller, list, Tim Daly, - gcl-devel@gnu.org -Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] [Charles Miller: - magnus and axiom questions] +Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] [Charles Miller: magnus and axiom questions] +Cc: Charles Miller Camm, @@ -24791,36 +16032,10 @@ Perhaps that's a good test :-) Seriously, you'd think someone would write this down somewhere. I'm a fedora developer. I'll complain about it. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBrc-0002fe-0v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:46:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBrL-0002ah-6N - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:46:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBr9-0002WC-QA - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:46:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpBr9-0002OU-Jc - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:46:11 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpBQd-0002H9-8d - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:18:47 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0DKIiE25661; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:18:44 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0DKxC215663; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:59:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:59:12 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list Subject: (no subject) Camm, @@ -24830,36 +16045,12 @@ are using is to look at: /etc/redhat-release -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBul-00048Z-6J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:49:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBue-000453-GC - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:49:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBuZ-00041v-1i - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:49:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBuY-0003yd-Je; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:49:42 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CpBgV-00046m-8X; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:35:11 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CpBaE-0003z0-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:28:42 -0500 -To: Tim Daly - <54fz15csx4.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200501132046.j0DKkrw15610@localhost.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire Date: 13 Jan 2005 15:28:42 -0500 -Cc: Charles Miller, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org -Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] [Charles Miller: - magnus and axiom questions] +From: Camm Maguire +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] [Charles Miller: magnus and axiom questions] +Cc: Charles Miller Greetings, and thanks! Turns out my test box does indeed now run FC3. I've verified and posted a fix for the problem. Did you happen @@ -24878,52 +16069,13 @@ Tim Daly writes: > > Seriously, you'd think someone would write this down somewhere. > I'm a fedora developer. I'll complain about it. -> -> Tim -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpC1Z-00083v-4h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:56:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpC1X-00082l-JY - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:56:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBzX-0007Ty-3Y - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:54:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpBzV-0007IK-Ex; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:54:49 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CpBjJ-0004f9-33; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:38:05 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0DKZxE04909; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:35:59 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0DLGRN15686; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:16:27 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:16:27 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire - on 13 Jan 2005 15:28:42 -0500) - <54fz15csx4.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200501132046.j0DKkrw15610@localhost.localdomain> - <54mzvdaxad.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: Charles Miller, list, Tim Daly, - gcl-devel@gnu.org -Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] [Charles Miller: - magnus and axiom questions] +Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] [Charles Miller: magnus and axiom questions] +Cc: Charles Miller yep. i saw your fix (i'm also on the acl2 mailing list) (note to self: get on gcl-devel). @@ -24931,37 +16083,12 @@ yep. i saw your fix (i'm also on the acl2 mailing list) i now have 2 fixes to apply, one to cmpnew/gcl_cmpmain and one to h/386-linux.h -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCXB-0000Zq-Rp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:29:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCX9-0000ZR-Q3 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:29:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCX9-0000ZF-9j - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:29:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpCWD-0000Cq-FY - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:28:37 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpBzg-0006fJ-OV - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:55:00 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0DKsWKe000301; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:54:33 -0600 +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:54:32 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:54:32 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [DynamicFunctionDomains] - ++added: Compiling g is still a problem in Axiom due to signature limitation. At least this way, inlining @@ -25008,40 +16135,12 @@ Can someone give an example where the *signature* of bar:: is actually needed? - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/DynamicFunctionDomains#msg20050113145432-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCXV-0000f0-CA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:29:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCXT-0000eO-7T - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:29:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCW1-0000Ku-DP - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:28:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpCVy-0000Cq-LS - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:28:22 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.4] (helo=tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpC7J-0007Cy-F7 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:02:53 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.85.177]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050113210252.PTNN1836.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:02:52 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: "'Camm Maguire'" Camm Maguire +\start Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:03:11 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: Mike Thomas, - list, Tim Daly, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Tim Daly +From: Bill Page +To: Camm Maguire Subject: RE: [Gcl-devel] Axiom on Windows GCL problems +Cc: Mike Thomas Camm, @@ -25059,40 +16158,12 @@ Shouldn't this patch also apply to the linux version? (Some weird linux people might also use spaces in paths.) -Cheers, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCZW-00019e-PJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:32:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCZV-00018X-NM - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:32:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCW7-0000NP-Tg - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:28:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCW3-0000Cq-85; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:28:27 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CpC6h-00079x-Ez; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:02:15 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CpC6d-0004vB-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:02:11 -0500 -To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: [Gcl-devel] [Charles Miller: - magnus and axiom questions] - <54fz15csx4.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200501132046.j0DKkrw15610@localhost.localdomain> - <54mzvdaxad.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200501132116.j0DLGRN15686@localhost.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire Date: 13 Jan 2005 16:02:11 -0500 -Cc: Charles Miller, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Tim Daly +Subject: re: [Gcl-devel] [Charles Miller: magnus and axiom questions] +Cc: Charles Miller Greetings! @@ -25108,64 +16179,22 @@ Tim Daly writes: Is the first one the windows space-in-pathname issue? Does the fix work? If so it too will go on the errata. -Take care, - -> t -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCaT-0001ML-HO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:33:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCWG-0000OR-CT - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:28:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCVv-0000Hk-Ab - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:28:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpCVt-0000Cq-LB - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:28:17 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.25] (helo=tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpCBd-0007Zz-9N - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:07:21 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.85.177]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050113210716.MWJI2026.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:07:16 -0500 +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:07:33 -0500 From: Bill Page To: William Sit -Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and - Aldorreturntypes -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:07:33 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types William, On Thursday, January 13, 2005 4:00 PM I wrote: ->=20 +> > On Thursday, January 13, 2005 4:47 AM you wrote: -> >=20 -> > Here's is the edit on DynamicFunctionDomains page. When I=20 +> > +> > Here's is the edit on DynamicFunctionDomains page. When I > > tried preview and save, it said "cannot find server". ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > Anyway, no problem. I will update it for you. Ok, it done. See @@ -25177,12 +16206,12 @@ g20 but notice that your use of the macro near the end produces and error. -> bar =3D=3D>point()$Foo +> bar ==>point()$Foo > > Type: Void >bar(4,7) -> Although Foo is the name of a constructor, a full type must be=20 -> specified in the context you have used it. Issue )show Foo for=20 +> Although Foo is the name of a constructor, a full type must be +> specified in the context you have used it. Issue )show Foo for > more information. It appears to be trying to evaluate bar before concatonation with @@ -25190,40 +16219,11 @@ It appears to be trying to evaluate bar before concatonation with I get the same behaviour on my desktop. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCc3-0001sz-7F - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:34:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCc0-0001rd-OT - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:34:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCc0-0001rC-17 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:34:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpCWI-0000Cq-CL - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:28:42 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpBsC-0005zS-M9 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:47:16 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0DKlBE12404; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:47:11 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0DLRdU15702; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:27:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:27:39 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: Re: Graphics in patch 23] - -Cc: list, Tim Daly Kostas, @@ -25231,37 +16231,11 @@ I believe that sman will accept a -debug option these days. Modify your axiom shell script in $AXIOM/bin, add -debug to the sman command line, try it again and send me the console log. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCdQ-0002X8-6z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:36:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCdO-0002W3-IH - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:36:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpCdN-0002Vd-TI - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:36:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpCWA-0000Cq-2F - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:28:34 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpC4i-000712-JK - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:00:17 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.85.177]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050113210009.NFRF1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:00:09 -0500 +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:00:16 -0500 From: Bill Page To: William Sit -Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and - Aldorreturntypes -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:00:16 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +Subject: re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types William, @@ -25288,49 +16262,13 @@ the use for which MathAction was intended. I will comment separately about the "signature". -Thanks. - -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpDcL-0004cm-T3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:39:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpDcE-0004ZW-BH - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:38:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpDc4-0004Tt-0d - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:38:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpDc3-0004Sx-I6 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:38:43 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpDOm-0007Jh-5j - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:25:00 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j0DMOdqL002852 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); 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- Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:34:54 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f +\start Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:34:54 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Tim Daly Subject: re: hyperdoc - list - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2FkSFaIQeDFoAt0B" -Cc: list - - ---2FkSFaIQeDFoAt0B root [Tim Daly] wrote: > But in the longer the whole hypertex browser needs redesign. @@ -25430,57 +16313,12 @@ Maybe hyperdoc could evolve into that server? e.g. typing hyperdoc spawns mozilla... or )help in axiom spawns mozilla (or opens a new tab in your existing mozilla). --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks - without knowledge, of things without parallel." -- Ambrose Bierce - - ---2FkSFaIQeDFoAt0B - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB5veOjwioWRGe9K0RAlsbAKDJxhKflKGyO7Xic7bdiX8P3nUGwACgwPK4 -j1Js/5iPyPYN/1ms4I/IH4E= -=YSDE ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---2FkSFaIQeDFoAt0B-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpDwi-0001zw-JZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:31:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEPn-0001az-3s - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:30:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEPW-0001PX-U0 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:29:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpEPW-0001Nv-J7 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:29:50 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpE66-0003YK-0J - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:09:46 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.191]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050113230944.OTDW1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:09:44 -0500 +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:10:02 -0500 From: Bill Page -To: "'Bob McElrath'" +To: Bob McElrath Subject: re: hyperdoc -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:10:02 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list, Tim Daly On Thursday, January 13, 2005 5:35 PM Bob McElrath wrote: > root [Tim Daly] wrote: @@ -25719,37 +16497,12 @@ get to an equivalent state. Plus the hyperlink functionality makes more sense to me in an interface that is primarily a browser, not an editor. -Cheers, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpET4-0002We-Kg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:33:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEPj-0001ZZ-2w - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:30:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEPX-0001P3-2R - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:29:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEPV-0001Nv-VO; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:29:50 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CpE6Z-0003a7-4n; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:10:15 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CpE6W-00011D-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:10:12 -0500 +Date: 13 Jan 2005 18:10:12 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Bill Page Subject: re: [Gcl-devel] Axiom on Windows GCL problems -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 13 Jan 2005 18:10:12 -0500 -Cc: Mike Thomas, - list, Tim Daly, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Tim Daly +Cc: Mike Thomas Greetings! @@ -25775,54 +16528,11 @@ Bill Page writes: Linux used the single quotes, but I've changed in to -s for consistency in the proposed possible 2.6.6. -Take care, - -> Cheers, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpETy-0002xK-AP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:34:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpETu-0002wf-6H - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:34:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpETs-0002vW-1h - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:34:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpEPr-0001Nv-9V - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:30:11 -0500 -Received: from [203.52.176.30] (helo=br-dmz.paradigmgeo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpDpw-0002Kh-8K - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:53:04 -0500 -Received: from water ([192.168.180.42]) - by br-dmz.paradigmgeo.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id j0DNE2cZ014586; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:14:04 +1000 +\start +Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:57:17 +1000 From: Mike Thomas -To: Tim Daly, +To: list Subject: RE: documenting changes -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:57:17 +1000 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: Hi Tim. @@ -25849,40 +16559,10 @@ documentation. Meanwhile, I hope that the premature upload of the Windows source code will pay off by allowing everyone else to get to work and to bring a great program to the masses. -Cheers - -Mike Thomas. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEuS-0002Ym-7I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:01:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEuN-0002Wy-SX - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:01:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEuK-0002Vh-NZ - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:01:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpEuK-0002VT-CU - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:01:40 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpEgn-00075q-HC - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:47:41 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j0DNleN13657; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:47:40 -0500 (EST) -To: Tim Daly - - <200501132127.j0DLRdU15702@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:46:27 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly Subject: Graphics in Solaris, patch 24 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:27:39 -0500, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -25897,27 +16577,27 @@ Tim, I've traced the problem, partially. In int/sman/sman.c, I did the follow= ing: -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D - if (ptyopen(&ptcNum, &ptsNum, ptcPath, ptsPath) =3D=3D -1) { +========================== +========================== +==== + if (ptyopen(&ptcNum, &ptsNum, ptcPath, ptsPath) == -1) { perror("start_the_Axiom: ptyopen failed"); exit(-1); } - fprintf(stderr, "\n----- K.O. : ptsPath =3D '%s'\n", ptsPath); + fprintf(stderr, "\n----- K.O. : ptsPath = '%s'\n", ptsPath); fix_env(envp, server_num); fork_Axiom(); close(ptsNum); -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +==== I get the output -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +==== bash-2.05$ sman -debug sman -clef -gr -nonag -ht -noiw -ihere -ihere -ws '$AXIOM/bin/AXIOMsys= @@ -25927,65 +16607,27 @@ tprog '$AXIOM/lib/spadclient' sman:process_arguments exit sman:process_options exit ------ K.O. : ptsPath =3D '' +----- K.O. : ptsPath = '' fork_Axiom: Failed to reopen server: No such file or directory sman:start_the_local_spadclient: $AXIOM/bin/clef -f $AXIOM/lib/command.li= st -e $AXIOM/lib/spadclient clef trying to get the initial terminal settings: Invalid argument bash-2.05$ -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +==== So the empty ptsPath causes the "Failed to reopen server: No such file or= directory" I also tried running "sman -debug" as root. Same result. - - Kostas - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEug-0002fV-OL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:02:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEua-0002cJ-68 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:01:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEuR-0002Xh-Db - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:01:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpEuO-0002VT-Ut - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:01:45 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpEYU-0006WW-Qw - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:39:07 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j0DNd4tv003229 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:39:04 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j0DNd4xk003226; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:39:04 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:39:04 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: re: hyperdoc - list, Tim Daly - <007e01c4f9c5$05bbbe00$6601a8c0@Asus> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Wtrm9ATX0sn6fFKv" -Cc: list, Tim Daly - - ---Wtrm9ATX0sn6fFKv Bill Page [Bill Page] wrote: > I don't think that it is necessary to dump zwiki and zope. @@ -26058,56 +16700,10 @@ latexwiki can natively produce MathML output, and reducing by one our external program dependencies. Google tells me there are many LALR parsers out there in lisp. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks - without knowledge, of things without parallel." -- Ambrose Bierce - - ---Wtrm9ATX0sn6fFKv - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB5waYjwioWRGe9K0RAn79AJ40DbLSXFPsLQSfDzJNpYvvGUzxOwCdFvRT -eOMuQt0oU2SG/qnLdWvXgs4= -=0jCW ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---Wtrm9ATX0sn6fFKv-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpFnD-0008WS-Cp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:58:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpERn-00022Q-Li - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:32:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEQ5-0001cT-Op - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:30:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpEPX-0001Nv-P7; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:29:51 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CpE5A-0003TG-7B; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:48 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CpE54-0000z7-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:42 -0500 -To: gcl-devel@gnu.org, Aurelien Chanudet, - Mike Thomas, - list, Tim Daly, - Matt Kaufmann, Paul F. Dietz, - James Amundson, - Maxima@math.utexas.edu, Vadim V. Zhytnikov, - Robert Boyer, Warren Hunt -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 13 Jan 2005 18:08:42 -0500 -Cc: +From: Camm Maguire +To: Aurelien Chanudet, Mike Thomas, Matt Kaufmann, Paul F. Dietz, James Amundson, Vadim V. Zhytnikov, Robert Boyer, Warren Hunt Subject: GCL 2.6.6 branch created Greetings! OK, I've rolled the known fixes into a 2.6.6 CVS branch. @@ -26143,44 +16739,11 @@ neglected in the address list. One item not yet addressed which I may get to in time is the recent SGC/MacOSX instability, which I'm hoping Aurelien can shed light on. -Take care, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpFzB-0003Sp-9P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:10:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpFz8-0003Qc-6k - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:10:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpFz7-0003QQ-B3 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:10:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpFtl-0001IA-SY - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:05:10 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpFDc-0002CY-39 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:21:36 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0E0LVE32054; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:21:31 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0E11x315976; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:01:59 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:01:59 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bob McElrath - on Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:39:04 -0800) Subject: re: hyperdoc - <007e01c4f9c5$05bbbe00$6601a8c0@Asus> - <20050113233904.GG27192@mcelrath.org> -Cc: list, Tim Daly > > So that was really the "Doyen" idea that Tim and I were > > discussing a while back - to make a version of MathAction @@ -26226,37 +16789,11 @@ The wiki software is a good front-end idea for making this work. The audience could actually change the online version to improve it. And they can run it to verify things like performance claims, etc. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGHF-0001Rt-23 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:29:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGHD-0001RR-Bt - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:29:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGHC-0001R1-Iy - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:29:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpGHC-0001Qy-Gm - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:29:22 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpG56-0007b1-Ke - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:16:52 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0E1GbKe018555; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:16:37 -0600 +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:16:37 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:16:37 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Axiom-mail] Axiom Users, - Axiom Programmers and Axiom Developers +Subject: [Axiom-mail] Axiom Users, Axiom Programmers and Axiom Developers On Thursday, January 13, 2005 6:37 PM Billinghurst,David (CALCRTS) wrote: @@ -26278,92 +16815,21 @@ I would also prefer to include these files in the Axiom installation program so that no other software installations are required by the user to get a fully functional system. -Thanks. - -Bill Page. - - - -_______________________________________________ -Axiom-mail mailing list -Axiom-mail@nongnu.org -http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-mail - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomMail#msg008e01c4f9d6$490b9570$6601a8c0@Asus - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGFs-00012D-1G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:28:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGFT-0000tG-T7 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:27:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGFM-0000pK-0i - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:27:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpGFK-0000hX-TR - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:27:27 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpFxY-0006jN-J3 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:09:04 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0E18xE31102; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:08:59 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0E1nSF16010; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:49:28 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:49:28 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Kostas Oikonomou - - <200501132127.j0DLRdU15702@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, Tim Daly Subject: Re: Graphics in Solaris, patch 24 Kostas, Are you running sman in an xterm? -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGnn-0000i6-Gu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:03:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGl7-0007pK-Oe - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:00:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGkU-0007Re-1W - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:59:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpGkP-0007OR-Sl - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:59:33 -0500 -Received: from [216.136.173.90] (helo=web12206.mail.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpGO2-0000hY-0s - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:36:26 -0500 -Received: (qmail 95971 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2005 01:36:25 -0000 -Comment: DomainKeys? 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Learn more. -http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGu0-0005zz-RO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:09:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGtz-0005zd-1N - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:09:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpGtw-0005yN-LS - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:09:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpGtw-0005yD-I2 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:09:24 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpGha-0002Ql-Qw - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:56:38 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j0E1ubN16252; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:56:38 -0500 (EST) -To: Tim Daly - - <200501132127.j0DLRdU15702@localhost.localdomain> - - <200501140149.j0E1nSF16010@localhost.localdomain> +\start Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:55:25 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou -Cc: list, Tim Daly +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Graphics in Solaris, patch 24 No, but in something equivalent, a terminal window in the CDE (Common Des= @@ -26490,45 +16921,13 @@ some more. > Kostas, > > Are you running sman in an xterm? -> -> t -> - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpHML-0005Bw-Cn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:38:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpHMI-0005A4-Uv - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:38:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpHMG-00059U-GA - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:38:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpHMG-000594-Bg - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:38:40 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpHA0-0004wh-Vt - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:26:01 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j0E2Q0N24016; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:26:00 -0500 (EST) -To: Tim Daly - - <200501132127.j0DLRdU15702@localhost.localdomain> - - <200501140149.j0E1nSF16010@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:47 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou -Cc: list, Tim Daly +To: Tim Daly Subject: Graphics in Solaris, patch 24, fixed! - Ok, I fixed it, although the fix is not elegant :-) In int/lib/openpty.c add the #define shown below: @@ -26547,48 +16946,17 @@ In int/lib/openpty.c add the #define shown below: It seems to me this should be fixable by putting in src/sman/Makefile.pam= phlet -CFLAGS=3D ${CCF} -DSUN4OS5platform +CFLAGS= ${CCF} -DSUN4OS5platform but somehow that definition doesn't seem to work. I can't see it in the = output of the make. Anyhow, everything works now! - Kostas - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpHi2-0002Xg-MC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:01:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpHi1-0002XP-Em - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:01:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpHi0-0002Wg-7i - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:01:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpHi0-0002WW-2s - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:01:08 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpHWA-00074t-SP - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:48:55 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0E2mnE31414; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:48:49 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0E3TI216120; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:29:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:29:18 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Kostas Oikonomou - - <200501132127.j0DLRdU15702@localhost.localdomain> - - <200501140149.j0E1nSF16010@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, Tim Daly, Tim Daly Subject: Re: Graphics in Solaris, patch 24, fixed! Kostas, @@ -26611,42 +16979,10 @@ let you know when it exists. Thanks for the good detective work. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpIAs-0003wt-6W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:30:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpIAP-0003px-5Q - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:30:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpIAD-0003lU-TK - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:30:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpIAD-0003fj-Fi - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:30:17 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpHoI-0008WS-GJ - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:07:38 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j0E37bN06898; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:07:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:06:24 -0500 -To: Tim Daly - - <200501132127.j0DLRdU15702@localhost.localdomain> - - <200501140149.j0E1nSF16010@localhost.localdomain> - - <200501140329.j0E3TI216120@localhost.localdomain> From: Kostas Oikonomou -Cc: list, Tim Daly +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Graphics in Solaris, patch 24, fixed! @@ -26677,7 +17013,7 @@ arch. And is it going to check in all of my axiom--main--1--patch-23? > You should only have to do: > -> export AXIOM=3D`pwd`/mnt/solaris9 +> export AXIOM=`pwd`/mnt/solaris9 > ^^^^^^^^ > > and it will define the variable properly. @@ -26687,47 +17023,11 @@ arch. And is it going to check in all of my axiom--main--1--patch-23? > let you know when it exists. > > Thanks for the good detective work. -> -> t -> -> -> - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpIBk-0004SD-Ac - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:31:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpIBj-0004RW-B3 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:31:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpIBi-0004QY-69 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:31:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpIAX-0003fj-O0 - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:30:37 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpHck-0007hJ-Jz - for list; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:55:42 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0E2tbE03413; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:55:37 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0E3a6W16134; - Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:36:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:36:06 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Kostas Oikonomou - - <200501132127.j0DLRdU15702@localhost.localdomain> - - <200501140149.j0E1nSF16010@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, Tim Daly, Tim Daly Subject: Re: Graphics in Solaris, patch 24, fixed! Kostas, @@ -26735,239 +17035,10 @@ Kostas, Could you check in your changes to the axiom--solaris--1 branch? 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Kostas, @@ -26983,36 +17054,10 @@ let me know if you want the userid. this is easier than trying to check it in because it is going to want to modify the --main branch which i'm hacking at the moment. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpKYA-0008F2-60 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:03:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpKXq-0008Bl-NU - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:02:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpKXd-00084W-L0 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:02:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpKXd-00083T-6X; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:02:37 -0500 -Received: from [203.52.176.30] (helo=br-dmz.paradigmgeo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpKIk-0007Yn-AE; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:47:15 -0500 -Received: from water ([192.168.180.42]) - by br-dmz.paradigmgeo.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id j0E67scZ016847; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:08:04 +1000 -From: Mike Thomas -To: Camm Maguire, , - , Bill Page, - "'Daly@Axiom-Developer. Org'" Tim Daly Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:51:07 +1000 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: +From: Mike Thomas +To: Camm Maguire Subject: RE: [Gcl-devel] GCL 2.6.6 branch created Hi Camm. @@ -27043,40 +17088,12 @@ I believe that this fixes all Windows slip ups in 2.6.5 plus the full kit and kaboodle for Axiom compilation other than the special mods Tim normally rolls in. I have yet to test this on any of Maxima, ACL2 or Axiom. -Cheers - -Mike Thomas. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpLwx-0006sV-PJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:32:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpLwd-0006mp-Bn - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:32:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpLwQ-0006gg-Cl - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:32:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpLwP-0006dT-ID - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:32:17 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.46] (helo=out014.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpLiP-0006co-MU - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:17:50 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out014.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050114071748.PVEH28388.out014.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:17:48 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:18:04 -0500 From: William Sit To: list - [162.83.133.69] at Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:17:47 -0600 -Cc: Mike Thomas, Tim Daly Subject: Windows CR/LF conversion +Cc: Mike Thomas When saving files from within Axiom, say @@ -27096,77 +17113,20 @@ Not anything urgent, just a wishful request. Thanks very much for the Windows version. -William --- -William Sit -Department of Mathematics....Email: William Sit -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -Convent Ave at West 138th Street........Fax: 212-862-0004 -New York, NY 10031..Axiom, A Scientific Computation Sytem -USA............... http://www.nongnu.org/axiom/index.html - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpM1Q-00080a-B3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:37:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpM1O-0007ze-89 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:37:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpM1M-0007yZ-I1 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:37:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpM1L-0007xn-LU - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:37:23 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpLpT-0007XW-6w - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:25:07 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0E7OiKe021863; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:24:45 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:24:44 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:24:44 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#9 )hist )write foo.input] (new) )hist )write foo.input does not properly handle windows CR/LF in output. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/9HistWriteFooInput#msg20050114012444-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpMLn-00077l-4y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:58:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpMLd-000726-2I - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:58:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpMLT-0006x6-3n - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:58:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpMLR-0006rK-QA - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:58:09 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.54] (helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpLrY-0007qU-28 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:27:16 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.148]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050114072714.VIRH19622.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:27:14 -0500 +\start +Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:27:31 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: hyperdoc -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:27:31 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list, Tim Daly On January 13, 2005 8:36 PM C Y wrote: @@ -27240,39 +17200,12 @@ almost all of this on a Zaurus 5600). This is all easily doable right now for free. I would have given my left arm for something like this back when I was a student! -Cheers, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpMuc-0000n8-1c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:34:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpMuX-0000l5-Uy - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:34:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpMuP-0000ik-2o - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:34:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpMuO-0000bC-MB - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:34:16 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpMPb-0003k0-QW - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:02:27 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.148]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050114080226.SQHN1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:02:26 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: William Sit, - Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:02:47 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: Mike Thomas, Tim Daly +From: Bill Page +To: William Sit Subject: RE: Windows CR/LF conversion +Cc: Mike Thomas William, @@ -27331,103 +17264,19 @@ they think "Notepad compatibility" really is. The thanks of course go to everyone who has worked on the project. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOLT-0000ob-D1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:06:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOLB-0000f3-Mx - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:06:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOL7-0000cu-4v - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:05:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpOL6-0000VY-5s - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:05:56 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpO5b-0000a8-Iz - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:49:56 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0E9nXKe026219; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:49:33 -0600 -From: MathAction (kratt6) -To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:49:33 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Axiom documentation and community] - - -??changed: -- --Axiom [Design Issues] -- -- Well, design issues... -- --Axiom "bugs":http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?group=axiom and "patches":http://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?group=axiom -- -- Sure you want to "fix":DebuggingAxiom one of these, don't you? Alternatively, you can browse through --"A Critique of the Mathematical Abilities of CA Systems":http://www.math.unm.edu/~wester/cas_review.html, --and add those to the bug list, Axiom still cannot do, or worse, does incorrectly. -- --You can apply the patches by saying something like:: -- -- cp axiom/mnt/linux/src/algebra/combfunc.spad . -- patch combfunc.spad combfout.patch -- axiom -- )co combfunc.spad -- --The next time you use Axiom, you simply say ')lib COMBF' to use the patched category/domain/package. --[29 more lines...] - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDocumentationAndCommunity#msg20050114034933-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOLU-0000pd-Je - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:06:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOLF-0000fm-OW - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:06:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOL7-0000dj-LH - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:05:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpOL7-0000VY-60 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:05:57 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpO5V-0000ZK-1h - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:49:49 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0E9nMKe025981; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:49:22 -0600 +Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:49:22 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:49:22 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomDevelopment] -??changed: --- The "foundations":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations of Axioms development model -- --- "Why Arch":ArchRationale? -- --- "Using Arch":ArchUsage This page is intended for developers and those who want to join. -Tim thought a lot about the "foundations":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations of Axioms development model. Axiom development is done via Arch, and Tim also explained "why":ArchRationale. "Using Arch":ArchUsage is not that difficult, fortunately. +Tim thought a lot about the "foundations":AxiomDevelopmentFoundations +of Axioms development model. Axiom development is done via Arch, and +Tim also explained "why":ArchRationale. "Using Arch":ArchUsage is not +that difficult, fortunately. Here you can get an overview of what to do, and where to discuss issues with others: @@ -27479,89 +17328,10 @@ Axiom Mailinglists and IRC Channel "axiom-legal":http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-legal ("archive":http://mail.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-legal) All legal issues, like license issues --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDevelopment#msg20050114034922-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOTl-0004QB-FE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:14:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOQl-0003vT-3h - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:11:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOQd-0003u3-Pt - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:11:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpOQb-0003rR-TI - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:11:38 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpOBv-0001ZD-D9 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:56:27 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0E9u9Ke002720; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:56:09 -0600 -From: MathAction (kratt6) -To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:56:09 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [AxiomDevelopment] - - ---removed: -- --Axiom Mailinglists and IRC Channel -- -- Several ways to contact the community are available. There is an irc channel where developers can find other developers. It is:: -- -- server: irc.freenode.net -- channel:#axiom-developer -- -- The mailinglists are: -- -- "axiom-math":http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-math ("archive":http://mail.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-math) -- Discussion of math theory and philosophy related to Axiom -- -- "axiom-mail":http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-mail ("archive":http://mail.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-mail) -- General discussion on Axiom -- -- "axiom-developer":http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ("archive":http://mail.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer) -- When you have issues to compile Axiom or with Axiom internals -- --[1 more lines...] - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDevelopment#msg20050114035609-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOUt-0004Y9-1J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:16:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOUk-0004Wy-Rh - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:15:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOQf-0003ud-QL - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:11:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpOQd-0003rR-NK - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:11:40 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpOBb-0001Vc-Iu - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:56:07 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0E9tmKe002229; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:55:49 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:55:48 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:55:48 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Axioms Community] (nouveau) Axiom Mailinglists and IRC Channel @@ -27584,144 +17354,11 @@ Axiom Mailinglists and IRC Channel "axiom-legal":http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-legal ("archive":http://mail.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-legal) All legal issues, like license issues --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomsCommunity#msg20050114035548-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOV5-0004do-TV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:16:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOV2-0004cE-Ca - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:16:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpOV0-0004aa-9I - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:16:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpOQf-0003rR-K6 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:11:42 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpOB8-0001R5-BH - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:55:38 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0E9tKKe001645; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:55:20 -0600 -From: MathAction (kratt6) -To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:55:20 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [FrontPage] - - -++added: -- Don't hesitate to join [Axioms Community]! 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Furthermore, we wish to express our gratitude to our [Sponsor] - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage#msg20050114040302-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpP9u-0003tt-RP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:58:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpP9Z-0003dt-9D - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:58:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpP7s-0002gU-Ir - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:56:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpP6V-0002Ii-DZ - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:54:55 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpOtR-0007Fv-Fc - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:41:25 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0EAfCMw026444; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:41:14 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:38:36 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Re: hyperdoc root writes: @@ -27736,37 +17373,11 @@ OK. NO NO NO, only if it runs without TeXmacs. I don't want to switch between emacs and TeXmacs. NEVER! -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpPCl-0005X0-Qa - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:01:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpPBc-0004zo-Sx - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:00:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpPAu-0004WL-E5 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:59:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpP93-0003M5-Iz - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:57:33 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpOwz-0008Cn-PH - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:45:07 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0EAimMw489212; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:44:51 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:42:11 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bob McElrath Subject: re: hyperdoc - <007e01c4f9c5$05bbbe00$6601a8c0@Asus> - <20050113233904.GG27192@mcelrath.org> -Cc: list, Tim Daly Bob McElrath writes: @@ -27814,37 +17425,12 @@ maybe it's even the same, only different syntax. Question: isn't there automatic conversion LaTeX -> TexInfo? -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpPgu-0003a3-2O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:32:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpPgW-00039J-T9 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:32:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpPgQ-00032c-JV - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:32:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpPgN-0002q6-VJ - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:32:01 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpPOx-0003rx-AO - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:14:16 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0EBDKMw449100; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:13:31 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:10:45 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types - <006b01c4f9c1$e167d820$6601a8c0@Asus> -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke, - 'aldor-l' +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Bill Page writes: @@ -27904,38 +17490,11 @@ changes, however, I could imagine to post a challenge to comp.lang.lisp to extend Axioms compiler to become Aldor -- in common lisp. There are very clever people out there, maybe we can get them interested. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpQGW-0002w5-5J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:09:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpQGT-0002tR-A1 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:09:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpQGO-0002pT-0p - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:09:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpQGJ-0002k4-Vz - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:09:10 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.127] (helo=swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpQ1L-0007uQ-VS - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:53:40 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.38] (hemmecke@camp5.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [140.78.116.38]) - by swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - j0EBrW3E003787; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:53:32 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:53:33 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: Axiom/Aldor - <54wtuhmcnt.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list I run Debian/Sarge and unfortunately binutils-dev was not installed. How should I have guessed the package name if 'make' just tells me that @@ -27950,10 +17509,6 @@ arch.axiom-developer.org or even in a README in the root of the Axiom source tree. Better still would be if ./configure tells you that the compilation will not succeed since there is something to install beforehand. -Ralf - - - Camm Maguire wrote: > Greetings! > @@ -27994,45 +17549,12 @@ Camm Maguire wrote: > wants automated building on Debian, 'apt-get -q -b source gcl' will > either produce an installable .deb or fail listing the > build-dependencies which are missing. -> -> Take care, - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpR6h-0004Co-12 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:03:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpR6c-0004BW-M3 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:03:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpR6a-0004At-Ak - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:03:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpR69-0003mW-Ea - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:02:41 -0500 -Received: from [193.124.167.24] (helo=inpbox.inp.nsk.su) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpQXC-0003vV-3y - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:26:36 -0500 -Received: from star.inp.nsk.su (star.inp.nsk.su [193.124.167.6]) - by inpbox.inp.nsk.su (8.12.1/) with ESMTP id j0ECHaj0025185; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:17:46 +0600 -Received: from star.inp.nsk.su (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by star.inp.nsk.su (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0ECHfum005849; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:17:41 +0600 -Received: from localhost (grozin@localhost) - by star.inp.nsk.su (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id - j0ECHfpi005845; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:17:41 +0600 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:17:41 +0600 (NOVT) From: Andrey G. Grozin To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: hyperdoc - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - clamav-milter version 0.80j on localhost -Cc: list, Tim Daly On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Martin Rubey wrote: > root writes: @@ -28053,41 +17575,11 @@ showing non-trivial mathematics. Are there such programs? Yes, TeXmacs!! I don't think anything can beat it in the quality of math formulas. Why re-invent the wheel? TeXmacs seems the best choice available. -Andrey - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpRyg-0000J4-3g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:59:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpRyd-0000HT-7t - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:58:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpRyb-0000H3-DH - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:58:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpRy5-0008PQ-8h - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:58:25 -0500 -Received: from [134.34.143.6] (helo=spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpRUw-0003MT-Pr - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:28:19 -0500 -Received: from clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (clifford [134.34.143.32]) - by spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18194; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:21:15 +0100 (MET) -Received: from clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with - ESMTP id j0EDQMTP024174; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:26:22 +0100 -Received: from localhost (fauser@localhost) - by clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id - j0EDQLLg024171; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:26:21 +0100 +\start Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:26:21 +0100 (CET) From: Bertfried Fauser To: Andrey G. Grozin Subject: re: hyperdoc -Cc: list, Tim Daly On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Andrey G. Grozin wrote: @@ -28147,50 +17639,11 @@ might even be able to produce pdf-slides which call AXIOM and display AXIOM results by pressing the button, that would be great for presentations.... -ciao -BF. - -% PD Dr Bertfried Fauser -% Institution: Max Planck Institut for Math, Leipzig -% Privat Docent: University of Konstanz, Phys Dept -% contact|->URL : http://clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~fauser/ -% Phone : Leipzig +49 341 9959 735 Konstanz +49 7531 693491 - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpRyn-0000Nh-Vx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:59:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpRxo-0008T8-9p - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:58:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpRxf-0008Pa-LG - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:57:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpRxf-0008PQ-IS - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:57:59 -0500 -Received: from [216.136.173.86] (helo=web12202.mail.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpRlb-0004y6-68 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:45:31 -0500 -Received: (qmail 40939 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2005 13:45:30 -0000 -Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - b=oUdsArDMTtqVU91Ns6uED5qYUWiE1XpojEqFLLIMsrXp56NAjnrNaVc5TE/Hg/yf98uT+ZOR9AK+omPAPDgqDRrF/9z8K7Hto+lakomuji/1K3wBfFfMvlkRyFdyd5U004VRm9zA/h8a0C1MwexpT/dcC3GiPYKi6IiIrveNPJ4= - ; -Received: from [68.106.90.53] by web12202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:45:30 PST +\start Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:45:30 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Andrey G. Grozin, Martin Rubey Subject: re: hyperdoc -To: Andrey G. Grozin, - Martin Rubey -Cc: list, Tim Daly - - ---- Andrey G. Grozin wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -28224,50 +17677,12 @@ before proposing seriously. Fortunately, thanks to open source and multiple skilled volunteer contributors, we can have our cake, eat it too, and bake another :-). -CY - - - -__________________________________ -Do you Yahoo!? -Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. -http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpSL5-00016Y-Vz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:22:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpSKv-00012t-IO - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:22:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpSKn-0000yo-9H - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:21:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpSKn-0000ye-6L - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:21:53 -0500 -Received: from [62.212.99.186] (helo=uniton.integrable-solutions.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpS8h-00082O-QB - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:09:24 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id j0EE8ORB027963; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:08:24 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - j0EE8OnE027962; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:08:24 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Martin Rubey -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return - types - <006b01c4f9c1$e167d820$6601a8c0@Asus> - <16871.43189.151350.227993@seam101.local> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 14 Jan 2005 15:08:24 +0100 -Cc: list, 'aldor-l' , - Ralf Hemmecke +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Martin Rubey writes: @@ -28283,40 +17698,12 @@ hand, if Aldor's source is not made freely available, people would end up focusing their efforts on Axiom's internal language; I'm not sure how that helps Aldor and how that is a bonus for the community. --- Gaby - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpTwH-0005pU-4d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:04:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpTw6-0005jg-Ih - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:04:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpTvt-0005dx-Kx - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:04:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpTvt-0005Yp-Cn - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:04:17 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.242.64] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpTc5-000106-S7 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:43:50 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0EFhquS021195; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:43:52 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0EFhpwh021194; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:43:51 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:43:51 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Axiom domains and Aldor return types - <006b01c4f9c1$e167d820$6601a8c0@Asus> - <16871.43189.151350.227993@seam101.local> -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Bill, Martin, * @@ -28408,43 +17795,12 @@ A new compiler will likely take years to write. We should not forget the spad compiler. We should learn as much as we can from it -- and in the process help maintain, improve, and document it. - -Sincerely, -Steve - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpU5A-0000OA-FK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:13:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpU56-0000M4-PU - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:13:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpU52-0000Jc-UW - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:13:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpU52-0000IW-PM - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:13:44 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.143] (helo=out005.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpTru-0002nY-0D - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:00:10 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out005.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050114160008.LPTR28362.out005.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:00:08 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:00:25 -0500 From: William Sit -To: Bill Page, - Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page, Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Axiom domains and Aldor return types - [162.83.133.69] at Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:00:07 -0600 -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke, - 'aldor-l' - -Hi Bill and Martin: - +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Bill Page wrote: > @@ -28769,40 +18125,12 @@ The point is, it is compilable. Agreed with no reservations. - -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpUtR-00013e-IW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:05:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpUtP-000133-EW - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:05:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpUtK-00011E-5p - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:05:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpUtJ-0000yc-9E - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:05:41 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.103] (helo=out003.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpUeh-0008Cu-Lx - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:50:35 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out003.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050114165034.IRKX1106.out003.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:50:34 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:50:51 -0500 From: William Sit To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom domains and Aldor return types - <006b01c4f9c1$e167d820$6601a8c0@Asus> - <16871.43189.151350.227993@seam101.local> - <20050114154351.GA19788@lattice.dyns.cx> - [162.83.133.69] at Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:50:34 -0600 -Cc: Ralf Hemmecke, list +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -28879,39 +18207,11 @@ straightforward and general and can even be automated. If one MUST use the signature for g (other than it is convenient), then you need Aldor. But can someone supply such an example from Aldor? -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpVvm-00053C-QK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpVuU-0004wb-Rm - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:11:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpVuI-0004qb-3X - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpVuG-0004lX-E9 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:44 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpVOv-0004FE-2S - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:38:21 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0EHWoE21504; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:32:50 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0EIDG217233; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:13:16 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:13:16 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bertfried Fauser - (message from Bertfried Fauser on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:26:21 +0100 - (CET)) Subject: re: hyperdoc -Cc: list, Tim Daly > Perhaps an addition, with LaTeX (prosper files style) one can make quite > nice interactive pdf-presentations and in the above described setting, one @@ -28932,39 +18232,11 @@ With these two pieces of function you can now write documentation that has all of axiom directly embedded in your document. Pamphlet files are intended to eventually go in this direction. -Tim - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpVvn-00053T-7X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpVuU-0004wZ-RU - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:11:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpVuF-0004ol-CF - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpVuE-0004lX-02 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:42 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpVWC-0004sE-AD - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:45:52 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0EHdxE26741; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:39:59 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0EIKPH17248; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:20:25 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:20:25 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp - from C Y on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:45:30 -0800 (PST)) Subject: re: hyperdoc -Cc: list, Tim Daly > I agree TeXmacs has great math formula output, and for quite a while I > think it will be the best solution for my particular work style. I @@ -28981,42 +18253,11 @@ should be possible to write a McClim version of the ltk/TK primitives when McClim starts to work and the rest of hypertex will already be lisp. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpW0P-0005vR-J8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:17:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpW0N-0005uv-DH - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:17:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpVuO-0004tn-6t - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpVuL-0004lX-8c - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:49 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpVDM-0003JX-7V - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:26:24 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0EHQ7E17002; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:26:07 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0EI6XW17216; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:06:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:06:33 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Andrey G. Grozin - (Andrey G. Grozin) Subject: re: hyperdoc - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - -Cc: list, Tim Daly > > root writes: > > > The longer term goal is either to merge it with the mathaction wiki code @@ -29051,33 +18292,10 @@ not exist at the time. We need to invent the future technology based on our estimate of what will be useful 30 years from now. On this point I expect and encourage much debate. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpW21-0006XC-Do - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:18:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpW1y-0006Vm-Vn - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:18:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpVuV-0004w2-OW - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:11:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpVuF-0004lX-5m; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:43 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CpVSk-0004bJ-WD; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:42:19 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1CpVSY-0001GT-00; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:42:06 -0500 -To: Mike Thomas -From: Camm Maguire Date: 14 Jan 2005 12:42:06 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - "'Daly@Axiom-Developer. Org'" Tim Daly +From: Camm Maguire +To: Mike Thomas Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] GCL 2.6.6 branch created Greetings! Are you sure you checked it into 2.6.6? I can't get it on @@ -29115,49 +18333,11 @@ Mike Thomas writes: > I believe that this fixes all Windows slip ups in 2.6.5 plus the full kit > and kaboodle for Axiom compilation other than the special mods Tim normally > rolls in. I have yet to test this on any of Maxima, ACL2 or Axiom. -> -> Cheers -> -> Mike Thomas. -> -> -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpW9W-0001QD-Rl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:26:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpW9L-0001LV-AV - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:26:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpW9D-0001Ho-Go - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:26:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpW9B-0001Aq-GO - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:26:10 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpVqv-00074T-54 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:07:17 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0EI6wKe000542; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:06:58 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:06:58 -0600 From: MathAction (root) To: MathAction - (message from bertrand roessli on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:14:34 +0100 - (CET)) -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:06:58 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Axiom-mail] draw Bertrand, @@ -29187,50 +18367,11 @@ draw(sin(x*y),x=-10..10,y=-10..10) for 3D output The full integration was not complete by the January 2005 version. -Tim - - -_______________________________________________ -Axiom-mail mailing list -Axiom-mail@nongnu.org -http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-mail - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomMail#msg200501141829.j0EITUe17272@localhost.localdomain - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpWmp-0003bZ-Pp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:07:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpWls-0003Dr-Me - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:06:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpWlg-00038U-ID - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:06:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpWlf-00031T-F4 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:05:55 -0500 -Received: from [216.136.175.66] (helo=web12209.mail.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpWUO-0002M2-Jj - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:48:04 -0500 -Received: (qmail 56787 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2005 18:48:03 -0000 -Comment: DomainKeys? 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Learn more. -http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpWrE-0005vH-No - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:11:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpWrB-0005tB-Et - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:11:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpWrA-0005sT-Dg - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:11:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpWm0-00031T-VY - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:06:16 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.243.134] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpWL8-0001Wn-Ph - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:38:31 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0EIcZr6024931; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:38:35 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0EIcYcV024930; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:38:34 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:38:34 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: William Sit Subject: Re: Axiom domains and Aldor return types - <006b01c4f9c1$e167d820$6601a8c0@Asus> - <16871.43189.151350.227993@seam101.local> - <20050114154351.GA19788@lattice.dyns.cx> - <41E7F86B.4A374F7A@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -Cc: Ralf Hemmecke, list +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke William, On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 11:50:51AM -0500, William Sit wrote: -> I am not following your example. RESCLASS is already a domain constructor and -> dependent types for domain constructor is not a problem in Axiom. Since RESCLASS -> is a categorical construct, the implementation must NOT know anything about R or -> M other than that R is a commutative ring and M is a maximal ideal of R. + +> I am not following your example. RESCLASS is already a domain +> constructor and dependent types for domain constructor is not a +> problem in Axiom. Since RESCLASS is a categorical construct, the +> implementation must NOT know anything about R or M other than that R +> is a commutative ring and M is a maximal ideal of R. Yes, I realize that this is already possible in axiom. My apologies, I miss-wrote the the RESCLASS example. I hope what I write below will be a bit clearer. -> (By the way, MaximalIdeal(R) is also a categorical domain construction and I wonder -> how one can characterize algorithmically the set of maximal ideals of an -> arbitrary commutative ring.) +> (By the way, MaximalIdeal(R) is also a categorical domain +> construction and I wonder how one can characterize algorithmically +> the set of maximal ideals of an arbitrary commutative ring.) I know :) I wonder this too. Just wishful thinking I guess :) -> does not sacrifice the mathematical type structure of the original example that -> Martin proposed: -> +> does not sacrifice the mathematical type structure of the original +> example that Martin proposed: + > g(n:PositiveInteger, k:PositiveInteger):PrimeField(n) -> -> It reflects exactly the same structure with the exception that there is no -> signature used and g(n,k) is replaced by the longer name -> point()$Foo(n,k) as illustrated in the Bartest package. I do admit that Aldor is -> nicer to allow that, so that such a wrapper is not necessary. But the wrapper is -> straightforward and general and can even be automated. + +> It reflects exactly the same structure with the exception that there +> is no signature used and g(n,k) is replaced by the longer name +> point()$Foo(n,k) as illustrated in the Bartest package. I do admit +> that Aldor is nicer to allow that, so that such a wrapper is not +> necessary. But the wrapper is straightforward and general and can +> even be automated. + > ... > But can someone supply such an example from Aldor? @@ -29415,38 +18523,11 @@ dependently on R's type via `if R has ...' constructs. This is what I meant in the previous email about having a RESCLASS package/domain which needed to know too much about the algebra. - -Sincerely, -Steve - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpX0d-0000rD-Sx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:21:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpX0Z-0000ol-DA - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:21:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpX0U-0000kf-NJ - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:21:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpX0T-0000jx-Ep - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:21:13 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.34] (helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpWnv-0004o8-Mb - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:08:15 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.67]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050114190810.PAAO1899.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:08:10 -0500 +\start +Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:08:28 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: hyperdoc -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:08:28 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Tim Daly On Friday, January 14, 2005 1:48 PM> C Y wrote: @@ -29456,38 +18537,12 @@ On Friday, January 14, 2005 1:48 PM> C Y wrote: Sadly, no at least not with GCL. :( -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpX0m-0000uK-3h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:21:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpX0f-0000rk-8i - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:21:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpX0Z-0000ny-QW - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:21:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpX0Y-0000jx-HW - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:21:18 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.188] (helo=tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpWlQ-0004VR-OF - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:05:40 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.67]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050114190530.WAXD25979.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:05:30 -0500 +Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:05:48 -0500 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:05:48 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke William et al. @@ -29586,52 +18641,11 @@ reference that attempt to do this? Is there some corresponding part of the Aldor documentation that would be useful for me to re-read? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXDS-0007Wu-Vc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:34:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXDN-0007VD-9e - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:34:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXDE-0007Qd-TG - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:34:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpXDD-0007OY-QH - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:34:23 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpWwI-0005mM-22 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:16:54 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j0EJGpQN009051 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:16:51 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j0EJGpiR009048; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:16:51 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:16:51 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: hyperdoc - Bill Page, list, - Tim Daly - <007e01c4f9c5$05bbbe00$6601a8c0@Asus> - <20050113233904.GG27192@mcelrath.org> - <16871.41475.860169.810986@seam101.local> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" -Cc: list, Tim Daly - - ---T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Martin Rubey [Martin Rubey] wrote: > Bob McElrath writes: @@ -29681,59 +18695,11 @@ FYI, tex4ht is the set of latex packages for generating html: It is the "right" way to do this, and what I will use, unless there exists a better set of packages. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks - without knowledge, of things without parallel." -- Ambrose Bierce - - ---T4sUOijqQbZv57TR - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB6BqjjwioWRGe9K0RAkGgAKCs5561B8rf5EdbZ/CZUSHNYLu4EQCeIEcL -9PXADsuUsDFMTE2fnWgzFhU= -=h2+W ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXDU-0007X7-0C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:34:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXDO-0007VX-KP - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:34:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXDG-0007Qu-Tn - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:34:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpXDE-0007OY-NG - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:34:24 -0500 -Received: from [216.136.172.17] (helo=web12210.mail.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpX1V-0006C8-6Z - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:22:17 -0500 -Received: (qmail 56645 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2005 19:22:16 -0000 -Comment: DomainKeys? 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IIRC Axiom uses the older style? -CY - - - -__________________________________ -Do you Yahoo!? -The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? -http://my.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXgp-0005yk-OL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:05:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXfn-0005sd-JA - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:03:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXfb-0005pU-1m - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:03:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXfQ-0005hK-2l; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:03:32 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CpXHm-0007f7-1L; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:39:06 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0EJd2E13107; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:39:02 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0EKJTE17648; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:19:29 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:19:29 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp - from C Y on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:22:16 -0800 (PST)) Subject: re: hyperdoc -Cc: list, Tim Daly, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -CY > > > I tried for days to get McClim to run without success. I'd rather > > > go that way but McClim seems to still need much work. @@ -29816,32 +18746,7 @@ I'm tempted to rewrite it into more vanilla lisp but have not done so yet as I'm trying to stick to the main task of getting a runnable hyperdoc on windows with the least resistance path. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXhC-00066Q-8t - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:05:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXfj-0005sP-JY - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:03:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXfX-0005ni-Bi - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:03:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpXfT-0005hK-Mb - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:03:35 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpXD5-0007Il-4T - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:34:15 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0EJYBE10496 - for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:34:11 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0EKEc817644; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:14:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:14:38 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: list @@ -29872,35 +18777,10 @@ Not all of the changes were merged. The primary merges were: So now the axiom--main--1--patch-25 is ready for more general testing. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXtX-0001ir-KO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:18:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXtT-0001hO-TE - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:18:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpXtQ-0001eq-1z - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:18:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpXtP-0001eG-O8 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:17:59 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.46] (helo=out014.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpXeY-0001ak-VW - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:02:39 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out014.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050114200238.WPMQ28388.out014.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:02:38 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:02:54 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bill Page - [162.83.133.69] at Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:02:37 -0600 -Cc: list Subject: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem Bill Page wrote: @@ -29935,43 +18815,11 @@ don't have a network problem (I can send and receive email). Perhaps I am just missing something obvious? Could it be because of firewall programs? 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BTW, how are those notes coming along? :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpYYh-0004FW-L0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:00:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpYYf-0004FJ-5t - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:00:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpYYd-0004Es-A8 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:00:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpYYc-0004Ea-Sl - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:00:34 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.4] (helo=tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpYLD-0005wS-6M - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:46:43 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.114]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050114204641.DBNW1836.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:46:41 -0500 +Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:47:02 -0500 From: Bill Page To: William Sit -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:47:02 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem William, @@ -30313,49 +19100,11 @@ you first found that page. How often do you use a web browser on your system? Do you get this message when accessing any other web site? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpYf7-0005LK-6P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:07:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpYf4-0005KJ-Sw - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:07:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpYf2-0005Iu-Rt - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:07:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpYf2-0005IB-Fc - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:07:12 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpYRl-0006ZT-PE - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:53:30 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j0EKrSsw009652 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:53:28 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j0EKrReU009649; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:53:27 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:53:27 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem - William Sit, list - <001301c4fa7a$346dc620$6501a8c0@Asus> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq" -Cc: list - - ---JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Bill Page [Bill Page] wrote: > I don't use Netgear but I do not think that this could be a @@ -30385,54 +19134,12 @@ This could also be a failure of the router to upload a large amount of data (since preview/save has to send the entire page back). After updating your BIOS, see if you can upload anything anywhere else. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks - without knowledge, of things without parallel." -- Ambrose Bierce - - ---JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB6DFHjwioWRGe9K0RAvB5AJ9hazCHHTPFCLc1lrysWwe+ciNVlgCgxdb2 -7j07LYhfGbtCgeCCOxVFUoU= -=Rax+ ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpYyl-0001n4-KM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:27:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpYye-0001kQ-PG - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:27:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpYyV-0001ei-RL - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:27:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpYyS-0001at-PF - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:27:16 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.131] (helo=out009.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpYbO-0007Kc-Gp - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:03:26 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out009.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050114210325.NGKR24088.out009.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:03:25 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:03:42 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom domains and Aldor return types - [162.83.133.69] at Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:03:25 -0600 -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Hi Bill: @@ -30492,92 +19199,10 @@ and I remembered that category theorist think of a group as a category but forgot how. The above article explains that. But applying the same to Axiom does not work! 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-UXJNE - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpZ51-0003Fx-US - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:34:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpZ50-0003F7-93 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:34:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpYyj-0001mC-FS - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:27:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpYyQ-0001at-MV; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:27:14 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1CpYhx-0007nd-UH; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:10:14 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0ELA9E12319; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:10:09 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0ELoaa17725; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:50:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:50:36 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bertfried Fauser, Bill Page -Cc: list, axiom-math@nongnu.org Subject: Re: Axiom book Bertfried, @@ -30657,41 +19282,11 @@ As Bill mentioned, you should look at http://arch.axiom-developer.org and follow the instructions at the bottom of the page for getting a key generated. This will give you direct read-write access to the book. -Tim - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpZTB-0002kQ-Gh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:59:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpZT2-0002fS-VF - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:58:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpZSx-0002bS-US - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:58:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpZSx-0002bA-Q2 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:58:47 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.140] (helo=out001.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpZEg-0002Qx-H5 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:44:02 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out001.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050114214401.VBBE28025.out001.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:44:01 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:44:16 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bob McElrath Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem - <001301c4fa7a$346dc620$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050114205327.GB8429@mcelrath.org> - [162.83.133.69] at Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:44:00 -0600 -Cc: list Sorry, it was the Firewall setting. I set the Internet Zone to High and it blocked sending data from my computer. Setting it to Medium works. (However, @@ -30703,158 +19298,21 @@ I am using the EZ Firewall Lite from Computer Associates (it is like ZoneAlarm). Thanks for helping to diagnose the problem. -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpZwi-0001HK-PV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:29:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpZwO-0001Av-Tq - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:29:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpZwH-00017B-MP - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:29:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpZwH-00013W-Df - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:29:05 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.112] (helo=mail-yellow.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpZWr-000428-Qz - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:02:49 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j0EM2mN13856 - for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:02:48 -0500 (EST) -To: "Axiom developers" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:01:35 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou +To: list Subject: Axiom graphics from inside TeXmacs? - Does anyone know if it is possible to display Axiom graphics when using -TeXmacs as the front end? I.e. I type "draw(x, x=3D0..1)" in TeXmacs, +TeXmacs as the front end? I.e. I type "draw(x, x=0..1)" in TeXmacs, I see the output in an X-window. - Kostas - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaPY-0001BU-0E - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:59:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaNo-0000Ta-Ma - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaNg-0000Oa-Vl - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpaNe-0000GK-1n - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:22 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpZuY-0006Hg-EZ - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:27:18 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0EMQuKe005177; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:26:57 -0600 -From: MathAction (anonymous) -To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:26:56 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [MainPage] - - -??changed: -- -What is this? - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/MainPage#msg20050114162656-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaNq-0000U1-M1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaNh-0000QW-4t - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaNU-0000Hh-LX - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpaNU-0000GK-DI - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:12 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cpa7i-0007NT-P1 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:40:54 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0EMecKe023915; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:40:38 -0600 -From: MathAction (anonymous) -To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:40:38 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [MainPage] - - -??changed: --What is this? -What is this? Hello? - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/MainPage#msg20050114164037-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaTe-0002dc-0h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:03:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaTa-0002ck-Ls - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:03:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaTW-0002b0-Os - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:03:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpaTW-0002aA-Gt - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:03:26 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpaFU-00087E-QU - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:48:57 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j0EMmPcF010354 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:48:25 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j0EMmPVr010351; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:48:25 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:48:25 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Tim Daly Subject: re: hyperdoc - list - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - - <200501141806.j0EI6XW17216@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XvKFcGCOAo53UbWW" -Cc: list - - ---XvKFcGCOAo53UbWW $0.02 (not much, I know) @@ -30943,82 +19401,38 @@ could present a worksheet interface. P.S. I note that Mike Dewar of NAG is behind OpenMath... -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks - without knowledge, of things without parallel." -- Ambrose Bierce - - ---XvKFcGCOAo53UbWW - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB6Ew5jwioWRGe9K0RAvW4AKD6rwhCQbP/579uOsHKmXWxUcxnygCfUJAO -U3pFRfPR9Z/q09OTs4n4dew= -=KY67 ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---XvKFcGCOAo53UbWW-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaTf-0002du-8P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:03:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaTb-0002dA-Pm - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:03:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpaTX-0002ak-Tl - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:03:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpaTW-0002aA-7R - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:03:26 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.133] (helo=out010.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpaFW-00087P-9L - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:48:58 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out010.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050114224857.UTPG24714.out010.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:48:57 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:49:14 -0500 From: William Sit -To: Bill Page, list +To: Bill Page Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem - <001301c4fa7a$346dc620$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050114205327.GB8429@mcelrath.org> - <41E83D30.3C15E61A@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - [162.83.133.69] at Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:48:56 -0600 -Cc: - - William Sit wrote: -> -> Sorry, it was the Firewall setting. I set the Internet Zone to High and it -> blocked sending data from my computer. Setting it to Medium works. (However, -> that is only for the Mathaction site. I have no trouble sending data, uploading -> etc to other sites with setting on High. So it is probably some special java -> applet that was blocked.) -> -> I am using the EZ Firewall Lite from Computer Associates (it is like ZoneAlarm). -> + +> Sorry, it was the Firewall setting. I set the Internet Zone to High +> and it blocked sending data from my computer. Setting it to Medium +> works. (However, that is only for the Mathaction site. I have no +> trouble sending data, uploading etc to other sites with setting on +> High. So it is probably some special java applet that was blocked.) + +> I am using the EZ Firewall Lite from Computer Associates (it is like + ZoneAlarm). + > Thanks for helping to diagnose the problem. -Well, not quite. it only worked on the Sandbox page, where I was able to submit -an edit for the MainPage (I entered "What is this?"). In fact that page worked -(Preview/Save) even with the security setting on High. +Well, not quite. it only worked on the Sandbox page, where I was able +to submit an edit for the MainPage (I entered "What is this?"). In +fact that page worked (Preview/Save) even with the security setting on +High. But when I tried to edit the DynamicFunctionDomains, it still says "This page cannot be displayed". -This is not intermittent. Every time. It's not a DNS problem because I can click -on to any link on the page and it displays. I just added Hello to the Sandbox -MainPage. I went right to the DynamicFunctionDomains and change (4,7) to (4,8) -and click preview. Then it stalls and same problem. +This is not intermittent. Every time. It's not a DNS problem because I +can click on to any link on the page and it displays. I just added +Hello to the Sandbox MainPage. I went right to the +DynamicFunctionDomains and change (4,7) to (4,8) and click +preview. Then it stalls and same problem. It seems to be a write privilege denied type of problem to me. @@ -31156,40 +19570,11 @@ Can someone give an example where the *signature* of bar:: is actually needed? - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpbGH-0006cf-3D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:53:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpbGE-0006c8-7E - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:53:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpbGB-0006ab-Bz - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:53:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpbGB-0006a3-4X - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:53:43 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.243.234] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cpb30-0003hc-GX - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:40:06 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0ENdusp027872; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:39:56 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0ENdtFS027871; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:39:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:39:55 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <000e01c4fa76$76dee2e0$6501a8c0@Asus> -Cc: list, Tim Daly, Tim Daly - -Bill, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 03:20:12PM -0500, Bill Page wrote: > What is the current status of your effort to update the @@ -31241,47 +19626,11 @@ time this weekend to help figure this out. Now that I have my head above the water, soon now, I hope :) -Cheers, -Steve - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpbo2-0005xu-WC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:28:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpbnP-0005ql-QI - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:28:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpbn8-0005mH-NH - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:27:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpbn7-0005cK-0U - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:27:45 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpbTh-0005dj-Ej - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:07:41 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0F077E04874; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:07:07 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0F0lXk17920; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:47:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:47:33 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bob McElrath - on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:48:25 -0800) Subject: re: hyperdoc - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - - <200501141806.j0EI6XW17216@localhost.localdomain> - <20050114224825.GD9951@mcelrath.org> -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Bob, re: openmath... the zips directory contains the OMC tar file. it has yet to be re-integrated. @@ -31313,53 +19662,12 @@ so I'm very familiar with the supposed "pros". No longer. In short, XML is gonna be a hard sell. a recovering XML-aholic, -Tim - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcLQ-0006pQ-TR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:03:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcFt-0005cU-TF - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:57:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcFc-0005UJ-Fi - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:57:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpcFc-0005Sb-9D - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:57:12 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cpc0L-0000Yg-6e - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:41:25 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j0F0el1C011252 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:40:47 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j0F0elXi011249; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:40:47 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:40:47 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Tim Daly Subject: re: hyperdoc - Andrey G. Grozin, list - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - - <200501141806.j0EI6XW17216@localhost.localdomain> - <20050114224825.GD9951@mcelrath.org> - <200501150047.j0F0lXk17920@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QnBU6tTI9sljzm9u" -Cc: list, Tim Daly - - ---QnBU6tTI9sljzm9u root [Tim Daly] wrote: > XML is a horror show in practice. XML is standard, of course, and the @@ -31412,49 +19720,7 @@ change the font size, violates many rules of web accessability, printing looks terrible, and it's in general impossible to get fonts that look the same as the images. -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks - without knowledge, of things without parallel." -- Ambrose Bierce - - ---QnBU6tTI9sljzm9u - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB6GaPjwioWRGe9K0RAi7FAJ4t2haejcHg57KV47b0nJLQHvfKyACg0Ufp -SIn2sfBAP+3ku3W9oVM/Z/Q= -=/WH4 ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---QnBU6tTI9sljzm9u-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcNN-0000a3-Bx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:05:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcNJ-0000XS-IU - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:05:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcNG-0000WE-AB - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:05:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpcNF-0000V8-Jw - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:05:05 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cpc4Q-0000r7-Uk - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:45:39 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0F0jXE31937 - for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:45:33 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0F1Q1217979; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:26:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:26:01 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: list @@ -31507,48 +19773,11 @@ Please use the Issue Tracker page to report issues and bugs at: http://page.axiom-developer.org/zips/mathaction/FrontPage/issuetracker -Tim - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcWL-0004Zv-M0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:14:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcWI-0004Yv-IG - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:14:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcWF-0004XG-6x - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:14:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpcWF-0004XD-55 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:14:23 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpcIk-0001p7-Fa - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:00:26 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0F0xsE08950; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:59:54 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0F1eMw17985; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:40:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:40:22 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bob McElrath - on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:40:47 -0800) Subject: re: hyperdoc - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - - <200501141806.j0EI6XW17216@localhost.localdomain> - <20050114224825.GD9951@mcelrath.org> - <200501150047.j0F0lXk17920@localhost.localdomain> - <20050115004047.GJ9951@mcelrath.org> -Cc: list, Tim Daly > Can you elaborate on "full of buggy corner cases"? I have no argument > with "large" and "slow". @@ -31580,46 +19809,11 @@ This point came up during my last discussion of the crystal project. Almost all of the actual semantics of an equation is NOT contained in the equation but in the surrounding text. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpcoo-0006Nk-Qg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:33:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcmT-0005a0-D9 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:31:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcmI-0005UG-4E - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:31:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpcmE-0005MV-Ih - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:30:54 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpcQh-0002KI-QR - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:08:40 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0F18DE15787; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:08:13 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0F1mfl18024; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:48:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:48:41 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bob McElrath - on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:40:47 -0800) Subject: re: hyperdoc - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - - <200501141806.j0EI6XW17216@localhost.localdomain> - <20050114224825.GD9951@mcelrath.org> - <200501150047.j0F0lXk17920@localhost.localdomain> - <20050115004047.GJ9951@mcelrath.org> -Cc: list, Tim Daly > Do you have any experience with OpenMath? @@ -31648,55 +19842,11 @@ is not always clear what the return type of an expression will be even within axiom. Eventually we will write out the coerce/convert tree and be able to tell, of course, but that won't help us with openmath. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpcow-0006Ru-Ic - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:33:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpcot-0006Qh-7Z - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:33:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpcop-0006PD-RX - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:33:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpcop-0006OH-KX - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:33:35 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cpcb0-00032a-JK - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:19:18 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j0F1IqeC011726 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:18:52 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j0F1IqIC011723; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:18:52 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:18:52 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Tim Daly Subject: re: hyperdoc - list - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - - <200501141806.j0EI6XW17216@localhost.localdomain> - <20050114224825.GD9951@mcelrath.org> - <200501150047.j0F0lXk17920@localhost.localdomain> - <20050115004047.GJ9951@mcelrath.org> - <200501150140.j0F1eMw17985@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Ah40dssYA/cDqAW1" -Cc: list - - ---Ah40dssYA/cDqAW1 root [Tim Daly] wrote: > > I do not believe that making images out of equations is a horrible way @@ -31746,64 +19896,11 @@ code, and then they go look it up. The semantics is that this is an angle between a couple of particles, and that has to be gotten out of the text... --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks - without knowledge, of things without parallel." -- Ambrose Bierce - - ---Ah40dssYA/cDqAW1 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB6G98jwioWRGe9K0RApPcAKCINKJzF5V8X/t/oTJX9S1j+1KDkQCfYg9S -wTevh9JjApvHmHSnFWrOv3A= -=3qkS ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---Ah40dssYA/cDqAW1-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcmV-0005ak-GH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:31:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpcmB-0005S7-VF - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:30:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpcm6-0005Nl-FE - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:30:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpcm6-0005MV-AP - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:30:46 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpcZ9-0002p2-Mx - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:17:23 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0F1GwE23099; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:16:58 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0F1vP818032; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:57:25 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:57:25 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bob McElrath - on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:40:47 -0800) Subject: re: hyperdoc - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - - <200501141806.j0EI6XW17216@localhost.localdomain> - <20050114224825.GD9951@mcelrath.org> - <200501150047.j0F0lXk17920@localhost.localdomain> - <20050115004047.GJ9951@mcelrath.org> -Cc: list, Tim Daly > The file size can be alleviated with gzip, if desired, and we may yet > see binary XML, which could address the "slow" problem: @@ -31831,41 +19928,11 @@ package-namespaces, etc. New schemas can be defined with macros. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpdJ1-0006vv-1b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:04:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpdIw-0006ti-Dx - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:04:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpdIs-0006s0-B5 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:04:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpdHN-0005Ug-9m - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:03:05 -0500 -Received: from [216.136.173.90] (helo=web12206.mail.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpcfT-0003RO-Fy - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:23:55 -0500 -Received: (qmail 69887 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2005 01:23:53 -0000 -Comment: DomainKeys? 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Learn more. -http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpegq-00055F-Pd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:33:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpegn-00054q-Iv - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:33:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpegm-00054K-4O - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:33:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpegm-000548-1c - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:33:24 -0500 -Received: from [62.212.99.186] (helo=uniton.integrable-solutions.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpeU5-0002Zs-1s - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:20:17 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id j0F3JPRB031280 - for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:19:25 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - j0F3JPKI031279; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:19:25 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 15 Jan 2005 04:19:25 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: list Subject: re: hyperdoc - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - - <200501141806.j0EI6XW17216@localhost.localdomain> - <20050114224825.GD9951@mcelrath.org> - <200501150047.j0F0lXk17920@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Jan 2005 04:19:25 +0100 Tim Daly writes: @@ -32222,38 +20157,11 @@ well, people with extensive experience with XML and fair assessment are rather the exception, instead of the norm; so it might end up being an easy sell ;-) --- Gaby - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpekP-0005zz-K1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:37:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpekM-0005zD-Mp - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:37:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpekM-0005yx-68 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:37:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpedg-0004G4-5n - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:30:13 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cpe4p-00017o-G5 - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:54:11 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (146.179.252.64.snet.net [64.252.179.146]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0F2s5E22713; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:54:05 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0F3YXw18109; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:34:33 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:34:33 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp - from C Y on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:21 -0800 (PST)) Subject: re: hyperdoc -Cc: list, Tim Daly > That's one of the things I'll be interested to see how CATS deals with > - there (as I understand it, please correct me if I'm wrong Tim) the @@ -32285,36 +20193,11 @@ for the kind of analysis that might be expected. Arthur Norman probably has a copy of the paper on the web somewhere. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpelt-0006OJ-1K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:38:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpelq-0006Na-Tk - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:38:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpelp-0006My-SS - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:38:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpedf-0004G4-PX - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:30:11 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cpe5h-00019t-St - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:55:06 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.178]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050115025502.CRKI1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:55:02 -0500 +Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:55:22 -0500 From: Bill Page -To: "'Kostas Oikonomou'" Kostas Oikonomou +To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: RE: Axiom graphics from inside TeXmacs? -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:55:22 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'Axiom developers' Kostas, @@ -32403,48 +20286,12 @@ Bill Page. > when using > TeXmacs as the front end? I.e. I type "draw(x, x=0..1)" in TeXmacs, > I see the output in an X-window. -> -> Kostas -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpfcr-0002t6-R9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:33:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpfcq-0002sv-HN - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:33:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpfcq-0002sj-4X - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:33:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpfcq-0002sg-1N - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:33:24 -0500 -Received: from [62.212.99.186] (helo=uniton.integrable-solutions.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpfQj-0006Np-0z - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:20:53 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id j0F4K1RB031466; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:20:01 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - j0F4K1j7031465; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:20:01 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 15 Jan 2005 05:20:01 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: hyperdoc -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Jan 2005 05:20:01 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -32498,36 +20345,11 @@ accompanied with a fair assessment :-) Even if it happens to intersect Tim's (whose comments I take to be fair, and based on extensive experience). --- Gaby - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpfdh-000338-Ov - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:34:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpfdf-00031P-7L - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:34:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpfbS-0002RM-2t - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:32:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpfbL-0002Jr-Lu - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:31:54 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.34] (helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cpf5L-00055z-Op - for list; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:58:47 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.208.193.178]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050115035844.UQPH1899.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:58:44 -0500 +\start +Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:59:03 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: hyperdoc -Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:59:03 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On Friday, January 14, 2005 10:19 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -32614,34 +20436,7 @@ this regard. But personally I would place this rather low down in the list of priorities at least until someone steps forward agressively to make use of it. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpgww-0004tA-FZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:58:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpgws-0004rT-FN - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:58:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpgwm-0004ne-CC - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:58:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpgwm-0004n0-7e - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:58:04 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpgiW-0002sc-Vr - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:43:21 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id CC23B107086; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 07:43:13 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin149.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.149]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2A7107085 - for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 07:43:12 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 07:43:28 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list @@ -32665,38 +20460,7 @@ Still what I would like hear is only the goals precise wording and maybe in the year of 2005 this item is available, at least wrt IBM? -Much thanks for any help. - - -Best - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CphQQ-0002I6-DP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:28:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CphQL-0002Gl-Ch - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:28:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CphQE-0002B2-1m - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:28:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CphQD-00029O-Ab - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:28:29 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cph6A-000473-2W - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:07:46 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id BAF59106E0F; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:07:44 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin142.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.142]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD022106BCD - for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:07:43 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:07:59 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list @@ -32726,51 +20490,11 @@ resource spent to AXIOM? Any other points of such nature would be much helpful - thanks in advance. - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpitT-0005wL-VA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:02:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cpioi-0004rN-Gj - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:57:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpioV-0004i2-Pk - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:57:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpioV-0004h2-G5 - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:57:39 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CpiZN-0001O0-EV - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:42:01 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j0F7fwXd013329 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:41:58 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j0F7fwp6013326; - Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:41:58 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:41:58 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: hyperdoc - Bill Page, list - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" -Cc: list - - ---EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Gabriel Dos Reis [Gabriel Dos Reis] wrote: > If it conveyed semantics, one would have something to argue about. @@ -32801,52 +20525,11 @@ TeXmacs). If contributors are numerous then this questino is moot. If at some point we must choose how to allocate finite human resources, then this argument will arise again. -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks - without knowledge, of things without parallel." -- Ambrose Bierce - - ---EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB6MlGjwioWRGe9K0RAkikAJwPlz5IVv0A4lnV8bxp9YMYxyFukgCgwo9v -JAx/ZXdoA3/WL9sni7ux3Tk= -=gpSp ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpqKU-0000bD-SG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:59:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpqKN-0000a2-Ls - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:59:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpqKF-0000UE-OX - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpqKF-0000TM-55 - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:55 -0500 -Received: from [192.20.225.112] (helo=mail-yellow.research.att.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cpq3x-0001wB-Dz - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:42:05 -0500 -Received: from mail.research.att.com (castle6076.research.att.com - [135.207.38.76]) - by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - j0FFg4N10689; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:42:04 -0500 (EST) -To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: Axiom graphics from inside TeXmacs? Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:40:50 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou -Cc: 'Axiom developers' +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Axiom graphics from inside TeXmacs? Bill, @@ -32878,33 +20561,10 @@ My preliminary, high-level, thought is to go the postscript way as you su= ggest. I've used the GnuPlot plugin for TeXmacs, that's what it does. - Kostas - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpsLu-0004UB-4R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:08:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpsLs-0004TR-9v - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:08:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpsGk-0003MR-0a - for list; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:03:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1CpsGO-0003Al-Gg; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:03:04 -0500 -Received: from [66.134.96.17] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Cprw0-0003RK-Ma; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:42:00 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Cprvn-0004di-00; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:41:47 -0500 -To: Mike Thomas -From: Camm Maguire Date: 15 Jan 2005 12:41:47 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - "'Daly@Axiom-Developer. Org'" Tim Daly +From: Camm Maguire +To: Mike Thomas Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] GCL 2.6.6 branch created Greetings! My apologies for my earlier note -- I do see these mods. @@ -32949,106 +20609,23 @@ Mike Thomas writes: > I believe that this fixes all Windows slip ups in 2.6.5 plus the full kit > and kaboodle for Axiom compilation other than the special mods Tim normally > rolls in. 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(sorry) - -William ---------------157E50238813A625D8C691D0 name="dependentSignature.txt" filename="dependentSignature.txt" @@ -33078,10 +20655,10 @@ ory A', which is a subcategory of A) has some special properties, the con= struction may be different. In Axiom, each construction of S requires a d= omain constructor: - Method1(R:A, p:P)=3D=3DS:C(R,p) - Method2(R:A, p:P)=3D=3DS:C(R,p) - Method3(R':A, p:P)=3D=3DS:C(R',p) - Method4(R':A', p:P)=3D=3DS:C(R',p) + Method1(R:A, p:P)==S:C(R,p) + Method2(R:A, p:P)==S:C(R,p) + Method3(R':A, p:P)==S:C(R',p) + Method4(R':A', p:P)==S:C(R',p) In Axiom, because the signatures of the first three methods would be the = same, the domain constructors need different names. @@ -33091,9 +20668,9 @@ e categorically, independent of the actual construction of S, but depend = on a function foo which is defined for all domains in the category C(R,p)= =2E Currently, in Axiom, this would be a package: - Algorithm(R:A, p:P, S:C(R,p)) =3D=3D add = + Algorithm(R:A, p:P, S:C(R,p)) == add = - bar(...) =3D=3D ... foo(...)$S ... + bar(...) == ... foo(...)$S ... and a typical calling sequence would be: @@ -33103,14 +20680,14 @@ Now let's see how we may do the same thing a la Steve's example in Aldor.= We would create a new category to encapsulate the various methods for co= nstructing S. -ComputationMethod: Category =3D=3D Join(...) with +ComputationMethod: Category == Join(...) with method:(p:P) -> C(%,p) and the algorithm for S would be in a package: - Algorithm(R:Join(A,ComputationMethod)) =3D=3D = + Algorithm(R:Join(A,ComputationMethod)) == = - add { bar(p:P, ...)=3D=3D ... foo(...)$method(p) ...} + add { bar(p:P, ...)== ... foo(...)$method(p) ...} and a typical calling sequence would be: @@ -33124,14 +20701,14 @@ ides the existence of S completely. It also hides the relevance of p:P. (II) For each R:A for which a method to construct S for p:P exist, we mus= t *retroactively* make R:ComputationMethod. This requires modifying the o= riginal construction of R. If the construction of R is from a domain cons= -tructor T, say R :=3D T(...) where +tructor T, say R := T(...) where - T(...):A =3D=3D ... + T(...):A == ... and if Method1 is used to construct S, we must now modify this to - T'(...):Join(A, ComputationMethod) =3D=3D T(...) add - method(p:P) =3D=3D Method1(%,p) + T'(...):Join(A, ComputationMethod) == T(...) add + method(p:P) == Method1(%,p) We must create a new constructor T' and not modify T because not every T(= =2E..) is to become a domain in ComputationMethod. So even though we elim= @@ -33230,8 +20807,8 @@ you do know, you declare them to have SourceOfPrimes, and you implement p= rime?(p) in the domain constructor that gives R. Below, I'll give more explanation how I arrive at my conclusion above. St= -anzas marked between =3D=3D=3D=3D and **** are mine (and those lines betw= -een **** and =3D=3D=3D=3D are Steve's). In each stanza, I put down a para= +anzas marked between ==== and **** are mine (and those lines betw= +een **** and ==== are Steve's). In each stanza, I put down a para= phrase of Steve's code (in a combination of code, math and English, with = added background information), and an analog taken from Axiom (which help= ed me notice what the map residueClassRing really is --- it became obviou= @@ -33256,12 +20833,12 @@ The following is an example with a view towards generic modular computations. Aldor has a category (approximately): --------- - ModularComputation: Category =3D=3D CommutativeRing with { + ModularComputation: Category == CommutativeRing with { residueClassRing: (p: %) -> ResidueClassRing(%,p); .... } --------- -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +============ Paraphrase: @@ -33288,7 +20865,7 @@ constructed). Analogy: -PolynomialComputation: Category =3D=3D CommutativeRing with { +PolynomialComputation: Category == CommutativeRing with { polyomialRing: (v:List Symbol) -> POLYCAT(v, %) @@ -33311,7 +20888,7 @@ h exports a function which takes a representative p of R and returns some= thing which satisfies ResidueClassRing(R,p). --------- -ResidueClassRing(R: CommutativeRing, p: R): Category =3D=3D +ResidueClassRing(R: CommutativeRing, p: R): Category == CommutativeRing with { modularRep: R -> %; canonicalPreImage: % -> R; @@ -33320,7 +20897,7 @@ ResidueClassRing(R: CommutativeRing, p: R): Category =3D=3D if R has SourceOfPrimes and prime?(p) then Field; } } --------- -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========== Paraphrase: @@ -33348,7 +20925,7 @@ discussion, the if-clauses are not relevant. Analogy: -POLYCAT(v: List Symbol, R: CommutativeRing):Category =3D=3D +POLYCAT(v: List Symbol, R: CommutativeRing):Category == CommutativeRing with { coerce: R -> %; retract: % -> R; @@ -33364,18 +20941,18 @@ ingful way to represent a MaximalIdeal generally:). Aldor has an IntegerCategory, roughly: --------- -IntegerCategory: Category =3D=3D +IntegerCategory: Category == Join(IntegerType, CharacteristicZero, EuclideanDomain, ModularComputation, SourceOfPrimes, GeneralExponentCategory, Specializable, Parsable) with { ... default { - residueClassRing(p:%):ResidueClassRing(%, p) =3D=3D IntegerMod(%,p= + residueClassRing(p:%):ResidueClassRing(%, p) == IntegerMod(%,p= ); ... } } --------- -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========= Paraphrase @@ -33391,10 +20968,10 @@ urrent discussion. Analogy: -PolynomialConstructable: Category =3D=3D +PolynomialConstructable: Category == Join( ...) with { default { - polynomialRing(v:List Symbol): POLYCAT(v,%) =3D=3D DMP(v, %); + polynomialRing(v:List Symbol): POLYCAT(v,%) == DMP(v, %); ... } } = @@ -33405,11 +20982,11 @@ PolynomialConstructable: Category =3D=3D And IntegerMod is an efficient implementation: --------- - IntegerMod(Z:IntegerCategory, p:Z):ResidueClassRing(Z, p) =3D=3D add {= + IntegerMod(Z:IntegerCategory, p:Z):ResidueClassRing(Z, p) == add {= ... } --------- -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========= Paraphrase: IntegerMod is a domain constructor that is actually implementable becau= @@ -33417,7 +20994,7 @@ se we supposedly know how to construct the residue class ring for a domai= n R (or Z) of the IntegerCategory and a prime ideal p of R. IntegerMod r= epresents ONE way of construction for = -S:=3D (R_p)/(p R_p). +S:= (R_p)/(p R_p). Analogy: @@ -33425,7 +21002,7 @@ Analogy: m that implements a polynomial ring with coefficient ring R and a list of= indeterminates v. It uses the pure lexicographic ordering on monomials. - DMP(v:List Symbol, R: Ring): POLYCAT(v,R) =3D=3D Join(...) add ... + DMP(v:List Symbol, R: Ring): POLYCAT(v,R) == Join(...) add ... It may serve as the default constructor. Other constructors use other ter= m orderings, for example HDMP or GDMP. @@ -33435,18 +21012,18 @@ rom Axiom, except I have abbreviated the parameter set in this analogy. T= he full macro expansion is = - POLYCAT(v,R) =3D=3D> PolynomialCategory(R,_ + POLYCAT(v,R) ==> PolynomialCategory(R,_ Direct Product(#(v),NonNegativeInteger),_ OrderedVariableList(v)) Axiom Version: - IntegerMod(R, p): T =3D=3D C where + IntegerMod(R, p): T == C where R: IntegerCategory p: Ideal(R) - T =3D=3D ResidueClassRing(R, p) - C =3D=3D add { ... } + T == ResidueClassRing(R, p) + C == add { ... } ********* @@ -33454,10 +21031,10 @@ Assuming this type of stuff is implemented in the library where it is nee= ded we can write very generic functions: --------- - Foo(R: ModularComputation): with { ... } =3D=3D add { - bar(r: R, p:R): R =3D=3D { + Foo(R: ModularComputation): with { ... } == add { + bar(r: R, p:R): R == { - elem : ResidueClassRing(R, p) :=3D = + elem : ResidueClassRing(R, p) := = modularRep(r)$residueClassRing(p) = @@ -33468,16 +21045,16 @@ ded we can write very generic functions: } } --------- = -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +======== Paraphrase: Foo is a package for a ModularComputation domain R, with a function bar: = (R, R) -> R and the function bar is implemented as: - bar(r,p) =3D=3D = + bar(r,p) == = - compute the elem:=3D modularRep(r) in S + compute the elem:= modularRep(r) in S -- S is the ResidueClassRing for R and p. compute some other things = @@ -33493,7 +21070,7 @@ Analogy: The function bar is just a supped-up version of Martin's example: - g(n,k) =3D=3D (k mod n):PrimeField(n) -- assuming n is prime + g(n,k) == (k mod n):PrimeField(n) -- assuming n is prime so it can be implemented in Axiom. The mod function is the coerce functio= n in PrimeField(n) @@ -33510,20 +21087,20 @@ ion from S to R similar to a retract:S -> R. Axiom version: -Foo(R,p,S): T =3D=3D C where +Foo(R,p,S): T == C where R: ModularCategory p: Ideal(R) S: ResidueClassRing(R,p) - Q =3D=3D> any domain constructed from R, p, S - T =3D=3D with = + Q ==> any domain constructed from R, p, S + T == with = bar: R -> Q - C =3D=3D add = + C == add = - bar(r)=3D=3D - elem:S:=3DmodularRep(r)$S + bar(r)== + elem:S:=modularRep(r)$S -- hairy computations - q:Q:=3D ... + q:Q:= ... = Calling sequence in some other package, assuming R, p, S are already defi= @@ -33535,7 +21112,7 @@ If you want to use the default implementation when R is a domain in Integ= erCategory, you can use: if R has IntegerCategory then - S:=3DIntegerMod(R,p) + S:=IntegerMod(R,p) bar(r)$Foo(R,p,S) Below are just some random notes (my tosses and turns): @@ -33576,63 +21153,16 @@ tly on R's type via `if R has ...' constructs. 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Yes, exactly. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq4N4-0001Yd-BD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:58:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq4N1-0001Xe-HV - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:58:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq4Mx-0001Vv-6p - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:58:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cq4Mx-0001Ta-1N - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:58:39 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.25] (helo=tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cq3s2-0001Up-Lf - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:26:42 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.138.18]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050116062640.MPWB2026.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:26:40 -0500 +Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:27:00 -0500 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem -Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:27:00 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list William, @@ -34384,38 +21797,12 @@ and make this change? At least if you can confirm that it works for you at one location but not at another then it might be easier to determine what is different and what to change. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq5La-0006gG-Gd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:01:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq5Kk-0006Nh-9C - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:00:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq5KV-0006GS-Uy - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:00:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cq5KR-0006Ed-3a - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:00:07 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cq4zq-0004Wk-Gk - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:38:50 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.111]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050116073846.MUTR1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:38:46 -0500 +Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:39:04 -0500 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: RE: Axiom domains and Aldor return types -Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:39:04 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke On Friday, January 14, 2005 4:04 PM William Sit wrote: > ... @@ -34593,36 +21980,7 @@ which make this possible are identied, examples of categorical construtions are provided and a suggestion is made for a foundation for rigorous results. ------------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq6FW-00035z-78 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:59:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq6FU-00034r-9z - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:59:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq6FT-00034F-CQ - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:59:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cq6EC-0002Gh-0k - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:57:44 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cq5mO-00076x-Ma - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:29:00 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 0EAA51068CC; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:28:57 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (ip32-154.crimea.com [212.110.154.32]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B4A10685B - for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:28:41 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:29:01 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list @@ -34710,153 +22068,20 @@ BUT Should this be considered as a bug or a feature? - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq8aR-0004xZ-5S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:28:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq8aL-0004vb-Nt - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:28:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq8aE-0004sA-NI - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:28:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cq8aE-0004jl-5W - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:28:38 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cq896-0007Ro-PC - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:00:36 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0GB0SKe025978; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:00:28 -0600 -From: MathAction (anonymous) -To: MathAction -Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:00:28 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [MainPage] - - -??changed: --What is this? Hello? -Edited again as a test. - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/MainPage#msg20050116050028-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq9AM-0005p2-KT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:05:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq9AJ-0005mk-F0 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:05:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq9AE-0005kp-5V - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:05:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cq9AD-0005gl-RF - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:05:49 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cq8rf-0001nl-GI - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:46:44 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0GBkXKe024274; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:46:33 -0600 -From: MathAction (anonymous) -To: MathAction -Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:46:33 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [MainPage] - - -++added: -\begin{axiom} -2+2 -\end{axiom} - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/MainPage#msg20050116054633-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq9cv-0005l5-N3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq9cn-0005gN-IU - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cq9cl-0005eM-14 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cq9ck-0005e7-QG - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:18 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cq9Qn-0003lU-FE - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:22:57 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0GCMpKe009715; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:22:52 -0600 -From: MathAction (anonymous) -To: MathAction -Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:22:51 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [ExternalEdit] - -Nice --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/ExternalEdit#msg20050116062249-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqA5s-00061F-2r - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:05:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqA4W-0005QH-A9 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:04:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqA3X-0004vV-Sh - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:03:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqA2e-0004bD-5A - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:02:05 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.143] (helo=out005.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cq9hR-0004yp-Do - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:40:09 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out005.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050116124007.CQLB28362.out005.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:40:07 -0600 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:40:27 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bill Page Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem - [162.83.133.69] at Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:40:07 -0600 -Cc: list Hi Bill: Thanks for helping again. Stranger things happened. -I went to the DynamicFunctionDomains page, select edit, changed "shouldn't be::" -to "shouldn't:" and preview. The bottom of the browser says: "Waiting for -page.axiom-developer.org..." This has gone on for 5 minutes. +I went to the DynamicFunctionDomains page, select edit, changed +"shouldn't be::" to "shouldn't:" and preview. The bottom of the +browser says: "Waiting for page.axiom-developer.org..." This has gone +on for 5 minutes. Meanwhile, I went to a DOS window and ping page.axiom-developer.org and got: @@ -34879,19 +22104,19 @@ says:"The document contains no data." After I click OK, the bottom message During all this period, the firewall records no blocked transmissions (setting is on High). The browser is Firefox on Windows XP (SP2). -I went to Sandbox Main page, and edited the phrases to "Edited again as a test". -Preview works, Save works (and response was almost instantaneous, with saving a -bit slower). In fact, the last time I changed this page, it was forwarded to the -mailing list. (Somehow, I thought Sandbox was just for testing and won't be -reported). +I went to Sandbox Main page, and edited the phrases to "Edited again +as a test". Preview works, Save works (and response was almost +instantaneous, with saving a bit slower). In fact, the last time I +changed this page, it was forwarded to the mailing list. (Somehow, I +thought Sandbox was just for testing and won't be reported). I have no problem uploading large files (or downloading) in general. And the page DynamicFunctionDomains is not that large at all. -I can only report exactly what I saw. I don't understand how these things work. -If the error messages were different, it could be they were different, or it -could be I was careless in reporting. But the above is as accurate as I can, for -this report. +I can only report exactly what I saw. I don't understand how these +things work. If the error messages were different, it could be they +were different, or it could be I was careless in reporting. But the +above is as accurate as I can, for this report. I don't want to randomly test other pages because if they work, everyone gets the spurious reports on the changes. @@ -34905,14 +22130,14 @@ server could not understand. Apache/2.0.40 Server at axiom-developer.org Port 80. I did this twice, same thing. In fact, on cancel, the browser took a considerably longer time (10 minutes?) and returned also Bad Request! -On Fedora machine, I can't add a comment to IndexedVariables page either (Bad -Request). Same thing for FiniteFieldExpressions page. On Windows IE, I was able -to add a comment to ExternalEdit page, but I was not able to edit and remove it! -(The Page cannot be displayed). +On Fedora machine, I can't add a comment to IndexedVariables page +either (Bad Request). Same thing for FiniteFieldExpressions page. On +Windows IE, I was able to add a comment to ExternalEdit page, but I +was not able to edit and remove it! (The Page cannot be displayed). -I am wondering whether it is because the page is locked because someone else is -editing the page before I start? I know XP locks files that are open, and Zope -too. +I am wondering whether it is because the page is locked because +someone else is editing the page before I start? I know XP locks files +that are open, and Zope too. Do I need to install Zope? (I have not). @@ -34925,9 +22150,9 @@ Bill Page wrote: > get depend on some firewall setting? Do you get the same message > in both Microsoft Explorer and Firefox? -Just now, trying this on PrimeField page with IE, adding "Taken from:" at the -beginning, the message is "The page cannot be displayed". At the bottom, "Cannot -find server or DNS Error" Internet Explorer. +Just now, trying this on PrimeField page with IE, adding "Taken from:" +at the beginning, the message is "The page cannot be displayed". At +the bottom, "Cannot find server or DNS Error" Internet Explorer. So I suppose you can say they are different on all three. @@ -34966,8 +22191,8 @@ Zope External Editor page: Locks objects while they are being edited. Automatically unlocks them when the editing session ends. -If a page is locked, and someone else opens the page, does the edit button work? -(it should not). +If a page is locked, and someone else opens the page, does the edit +button work? (it should not). > > Considering the new message that you reported: "This page cannot @@ -34981,17 +22206,19 @@ If a page is locked, and someone else opens the page, does the edit button work? > this message myself even when editing a page that contains many > Axiom commands. -I just went to Sandbox Mainpage and edited it to call axiom with 2+2. There is a -slight delay in preview, but it worked and returns the answer 4. +I just went to Sandbox Mainpage and edited it to call axiom with +2+2. There is a slight delay in preview, but it worked and returns the +answer 4. > Is there any setting on your firewall software that might affect > the time your system waits for a reply? -All the time security is on High. I don't see how the firewall knows the -difference between Sandbox Mainpage and the other pages! For the same reasons, I -don't see how my netgear box's firewall can make the distinction either. I used -three different computers, OSes, and browsers already (from the same ISP of -course). Is there nobody else experiencing this weird error? +All the time security is on High. I don't see how the firewall knows +the difference between Sandbox Mainpage and the other pages! For the +same reasons, I don't see how my netgear box's firewall can make the +distinction either. I used three different computers, OSes, and +browsers already (from the same ISP of course). Is there nobody else +experiencing this weird error? > Is it possible for you to easily and temporarily turn off the > firewall software completely in order to see if that cures the @@ -34999,11 +22226,11 @@ course). Is there nobody else experiencing this weird error? > likely some setting in the firewall software that you can change > that will make it work without shutting it off. -Yes, I did and that made no difference. But I have to say, I only turned off EZ -Firewall. XP (SP2) has its own firewall setting that I won't know how to tweak. -But as I said, I don't see how the firewall can detect differences in the two -pages unless the two pages ARE different in their handling of Preview and Save -buttons. +Yes, I did and that made no difference. But I have to say, I only +turned off EZ Firewall. XP (SP2) has its own firewall setting that I +won't know how to tweak. But as I said, I don't see how the firewall +can detect differences in the two pages unless the two pages ARE +different in their handling of Preview and Save buttons. > Finally, do you have a different location (such as office at > work versus at home) where you can try to access MathAction @@ -35015,35 +22242,11 @@ Yes, but I don't go to my office these days. But if I do, I'll give it a try. (However, even if that works, it is not going to help me since I do most of my work at home). - -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqDHm-00026r-RO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:29:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqDHM-0001us-IR - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:29:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqDHF-0001rU-KJ - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:29:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqDHF-0001nB-BM - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:29:21 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqCuR-0003qs-6G - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:05:47 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0GG5OXK368414; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:05:27 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:02:48 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Vladimir Bondarenko Subject: Re: System error: Cannot take first of an empty list -Cc: list Of course it's a bug. Please file it! @@ -35134,46 +22337,12 @@ Vladimir Bondarenko writes: > > > Best, - > - > Vladimir - > - > - > - > _______________________________________________ - > Axiom-developer mailing list - > list - > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqDk0-0001uM-3g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:59:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqDjm-0001li-Ee - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:58:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqDjh-0001jn-2I - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:58:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqDjg-0001jE-Uh - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:58:44 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.106] (helo=out006.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqDTo-0006I0-TG - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:42:21 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out006.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050116164219.NBCB7873.out006.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:42:19 -0600 + +\start Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:42:39 -0500 From: William Sit To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: System error: Cannot take first of an empty list - <16874.36904.233072.153245@seam101.local> - [162.83.133.69] at Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:42:19 -0600 -Cc: list Simpler: @@ -35187,11 +22356,6 @@ Simpler: log(x) (2) a Type: Expression Integer -(3) -> exp^log(x) - - >> System error: - Cannot take first of an empty list - protected-symbol-warn called with (NIL) William @@ -35285,64 +22449,12 @@ Martin Rubey wrote: > > > > > > Should this be considered as a bug or a feature? -> > -> > -> > Best, -> > -> > Vladimir -> > -> > -> > -> > _______________________________________________ -> > Axiom-developer mailing list -> > list -> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer --- -William Sit -Department of Mathematics....Email: William Sit -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -Convent Ave at West 138th Street........Fax: 212-862-0004 -New York, NY 10031..Axiom, A Scientific Computation Sytem -USA............... http://www.nongnu.org/axiom/index.html - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEBI-0006Bh-6m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:27:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEB5-00065Z-LA - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:27:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEAw-00060H-H3 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:26:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqEAv-0005yf-Tx - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:26:53 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.106] (helo=out006.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqDt8-0008Tq-IB - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:08:30 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out006.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050116170829.NGCU7873.out006.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:29 -0600 +\start Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:08:49 -0500 From: William Sit -To: Martin Rubey, - Vladimir Bondarenko, list - <16874.36904.233072.153245@seam101.local> - <41EA997F.B6564AD4@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - [162.83.133.69] at Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:29 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: Bug: using exp as a symbol in ** (was: System - error: Cannot take first of an empty list +To: Martin Rubey, Vladimir Bondarenko +Subject: Bug: using exp as a symbol in ** (was: System error: Cannot take first of an empty list The error apparently comes from EXPR where the implementation is x**y == exp(y * log(x)) @@ -35378,34 +22490,10 @@ William > protected-symbol-warn called with (NIL) > - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEIZ-0001I5-5z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:34:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEIW-0001HT-Sv - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:34:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEIT-0001Fz-RX - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:34:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqEIT-0001FF-2n - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:34:41 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqE2S-0000ma-Oh - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:18:20 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id C52A51068B4; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:18:02 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin130.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.130]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E901068B2; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:18:00 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:18:23 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: Martin Rubey -Cc: list Subject: Automated calculation of AXIOM bugs Hi Martin, hi *, @@ -35442,14 +22530,6 @@ and the interplay and the evolution of the bugs, and prioritize the bug manifestations in a way that fixing them would take the minimal efforts. -Much thanks again. - - -Best, - -Vladimir - - MR> Of course it's a bug. Please file it! MR> Martin @@ -35549,39 +22629,11 @@ MR> > Axiom-developer mailing list MR> > list MR> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEPj-0002xz-7P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:42:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEPf-0002xN-Rt - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:42:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEPd-0002w6-KX - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:42:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqEPd-0002vY-CP - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:42:05 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqEAB-0001PG-NV - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:26:08 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 027C41068CC; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:26:06 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin130.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.130]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB071068CA; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:26:04 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:26:26 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: William Sit -Subject: Re[2]: System error: Cannot take first of an empty - list - <16874.36904.233072.153245@seam101.local> - <41EA997F.B6564AD4@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -Cc: list +Subject: Re[2]: System error: Cannot take first of an empty list Perfect! @@ -35696,58 +22748,12 @@ WS> Martin Rubey wrote: >> > >> > >> > Should this be considered as a bug or a feature? ->> > ->> > ->> > Best, ->> > ->> > Vladimir ->> > ->> > ->> > ->> > _______________________________________________ ->> > Axiom-developer mailing list ->> > list ->> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->> ->> _______________________________________________ ->> Axiom-developer mailing list ->> list ->> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEl3-000298-NN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:04:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEhC-0001BN-Og - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:00:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEgs-00013u-Qo - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:00:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqEgq-000101-V5 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:59:53 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqEJM-0001ww-3O - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:35:36 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id D3C44106930; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:35:34 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin133.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.133]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EA310692F; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:35:33 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] + +\start Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:35:55 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: William Sit - <16874.36904.233072.153245@seam101.local> - <41EA997F.B6564AD4@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - <41EA9FA1.EB97FB0E@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -Cc: list -Subject: Re: Bug: using exp as a symbol in ** (was: System - error: Cannot take first of an empty list +Subject: Re: Bug: using exp as a symbol in ** (was: System error: Cannot take first of an empty list It is extremely helpful and instructive to see your explanation. @@ -35805,41 +22811,12 @@ WS> --- >> Cannot take first of an empty list >> >> protected-symbol-warn called with (NIL) ->> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEhL-0001Bx-8b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:00:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEgw-00015I-5Z - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:00:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqEgn-000112-RG - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:59:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqEgn-000101-GV - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:59:49 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.103] (helo=out003.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqEQS-0002L8-Eb - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:42:56 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out003.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050116174255.CHQS1106.out003.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:42:55 -0600 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:43:14 -0500 From: William Sit -To: Martin Rubey, - Vladimir Bondarenko, list - <16874.36904.233072.153245@seam101.local> - <41EA997F.B6564AD4@cunyvm.cuny.edu> <41EA9FA1.EB97FB0E@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - [162.83.133.69] at Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:42:54 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: Re: Bug: using exp as a symbol in ** (was: System - error: Cannot take firstof an empty list +To: Martin Rubey, Vladimir Bondarenko +Subject: Re: Bug: using exp as a symbol in ** (was: System error: Cannot take firstof an empty list On the other hand, even though as Vladimir Bondareko reported: @@ -35992,40 +22969,11 @@ is related to this is not clear. Bug already existed in NAG version. So may be one of the known ones. - -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqFS2-0007v7-At - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:48:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqFRx-0007sP-4r - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:48:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqFRs-0007pO-1N - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:48:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqFRr-0007ng-HP - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:48:27 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqF9J-0005aZ-5M - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:29:17 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id EAE521068C2; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:29:15 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (ip90-154.crimea.com [212.110.154.90]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B2B1068AA - for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:29:14 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:29:37 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list -Subject: A terrible bug: romberg+simplify/expand: slowdown - of 125/300 times - -Hi *, +Subject: A terrible bug: romberg+simplify/expand: slowdown of 125/300 times Any comment on layout of AXIOM's computational flow here? @@ -36089,36 +23037,7 @@ A bloodcurdling guesswork, Does AXIOM each time call simplify/expand ?! Or... or what causes this user's nightmare? - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqGD9-0006Hs-FV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:37:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqGD7-0006Gl-4w - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:37:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqGC7-0005si-7D - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:36:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqGC4-0005nP-D7 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:36:12 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqFhy-0008Bf-Pw - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:05:07 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id CE733106917; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:05:05 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin152.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.152]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C172B106916 - for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:05:04 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:05:27 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list @@ -36168,52 +23087,12 @@ le Please enter y or yes if you really want to leave the interactive environment and return to the operating system: -.................................................................. - - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqGM9-0008QF-Re - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:46:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqGM7-0008OR-Uy - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:46:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqGC4-0005sq-Lk - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:36:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqGC4-0005nP-Gs - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:36:12 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.243.11] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqFhM-00089u-5a - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:04:28 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0GJ4VBQ004817; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:04:31 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0GJ4UkP004816; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:04:30 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:04:30 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: William Sit Subject: Re: Axiom domains and Aldor return types - <006b01c4f9c1$e167d820$6601a8c0@Asus> - <16871.43189.151350.227993@seam101.local> - <20050114154351.GA19788@lattice.dyns.cx> - <41E7F86B.4A374F7A@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - <20050114183834.GA21305@lattice.dyns.cx> - <41E9778A.563BBF50@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - <41E97D70.2469FC70@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -Cc: Ralf Hemmecke, list - +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke William, @@ -36895,45 +23774,12 @@ On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 03:30:40PM -0500, William Sit wrote: > ======= > > see discussion on top of email -> -> -> ******* - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqHz2-0000nl-Kd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:30:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqHyy-0000lW-Dz - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:30:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqHyv-0000k2-Sv - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:30:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqHyb-0008VI-Tr - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:30:25 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.243.11] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqHZY-0000TU-8K - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:04:32 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0GL4TMJ005145; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:04:29 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0GL4Tt0005144; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:04:29 -0500 + +\start Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:04:29 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <000e01c4fa76$76dee2e0$6501a8c0@Asus> -Cc: list, Tim Daly, Tim Daly - - -Bill, Tim, Here are some interesting clues. Based upon my earlier email which listed the differences in domain vectors w.r.t first- and @@ -37062,49 +23908,19 @@ call to SINT's coerce, where as in the second the coercion is inlined. Does this help trigger an explanation? Any thoughts? - -Cheers, -Steve - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqJTg-0005OR-4Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:06:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqJTe-0005Mu-Cm - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:06:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqJOq-0004Eo-Ns - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:01:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqJOo-00047R-Lo - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:01:35 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.137] (helo=out012.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqIxr-0006O7-98 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:33:43 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out012.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050116223342.JUMH10436.out012.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:33:42 -0600 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:34:02 -0500 From: William Sit To: Vladimir Bondarenko Subject: Re: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )summary issue - [162.83.133.69] at Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:33:41 -0600 -Cc: list - -This is a known bug. "cat" is a unix command like "type" in DOS. But "cat= -" is -normally not installed in Windows machines. If you install some unix tool= -s for -Windows, including "cat", then there will be no such display problems. I= - have -"cat" in my cygwin installation and once put into the path, that works. -Unfortunately the dos command type does not understand unix path conventi= -on -- -otherwise, creating a cat.bat file with one line + +This is a known bug. "cat" is a unix command like "type" in DOS. But +"cat= " is normally not installed in Windows machines. If you install +some unix tool= s for Windows, including "cat", then there will be no +such display problems. I= have "cat" in my cygwin installation and +once put into the path, that works. Unfortunately the dos command +type does not understand unix path conventi= on -- otherwise, creating +a cat.bat file with one line type %1 @@ -37188,65 +24004,16 @@ file > -> )quit > Please enter y or yes if you really want to leave the interactive > environment and return to the operating system: -> = -> .................................................................. -> = - -> Best, -> = - -> Vladimir -> = - -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - --- = - -William Sit -Department of Mathematics....Email: William Sit -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -Convent Ave at West 138th Street........Fax: 212-862-0004 -New York, NY 10031..Axiom, A Scientific Computation Sytem -USA............... http://www.nongnu.org/axiom/index.html - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqMbW-0002A6-8g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:26:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqMbT-00027Z-6t - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:26:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqMbQ-00024w-R9 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:26:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqMbQ-00024l-Lx - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:26:48 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.25] (helo=tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqMP9-0006ST-9m - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:14:07 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([64.228.8.73]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050117021404.UIYK2026.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:14:04 -0500 +\start +Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:14:23 -0500 From: Bill Page -To: William Sit, - Vladimir Bondarenko +To: William Sit, Vladimir Bondarenko Subject: RE: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )summary issue -Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:14:23 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list - On Sunday, January 16, 2005 5:34 PM William Sit wrote: ->=20 -> This is a known bug. "cat" is a unix command like "type" in=20 +> +> This is a known bug. "cat" is a unix command like "type" in > DOS. But "cat" is normally not installed in Windows machines. > If you install some unix tools for Windows, including "cat", > then there will be no such display problems. @@ -37276,87 +24043,62 @@ However note that there is another bug lurking concerning the need for the unix "rm" command during )compile. That is one of the bugs that will be fixed with the next upload. -> Unfortunately the dos command type does not understand unix=20 +> Unfortunately the dos command type does not understand unix > path convention -- otherwise, creating a cat.bat file with > one line ->=20 +> > type %1 ->=20 +> > and putting it into your path would have worked. > As you say, this is the wrong solution. -=20 -> You need three files cat.exe, cygwin1.dll, cygintl-1.dll and=20 + +> You need three files cat.exe, cygwin1.dll, cygintl-1.dll and > put these in your path. I will send these to you separately. I do not recommend that you follow this advice. ->=20 +> > Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: -> >=20 +> > > > Hi *, -> >=20 +> > > > What I see about )copyright and )summary under Windows XP... > > I reinstalled AXIOM, rebooted... all the same. -> >=20 +> > > > Any comment on this behavior? -> >=20 +> > > > .................................................................. -> >=20 +> > > > AXIOM Computer Algebra System > > Version of Tuesday November 30, 2004 at 21:11:14 -> >=20 +> > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------- > > Issue )copyright to view copyright notices. > > Issue )summary for a summary of useful system commands. > > Issue )quit to leave AXIOM and return to shell. -> >=20 +> > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------- -> >=20 +> > > > -> )copyright -> >=20 +> > > > "cat" =ED=E5 =FF=E2=EB=FF=E5=F2=F1=FF =E2=ED=F3=F2=F0=E5=ED=ED=E5=E9 = =E8=EB=E8 =E2=ED=E5=F8=ED=E5=E9 > > =EA=EE=EC=E0=ED=E4=EE=E9, =E8=F1=EF=EE=EB=ED=FF=E5=EC=EE=E9 = =EF=F0=EE=E3=F0=E0=EC=EC=EE=E9 =E8=EB=E8 =EF=E0=EA=E5=F2=ED=FB=EC = =F4=E0=E9=EB=EE=EC. -> >=20 -> > -- "cat" is not an internal or external command, executable=20 +> > +> > -- "cat" is not an internal or external command, executable > or a batch file -> >=20 - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqMfF-000389-LB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:30:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqMbq-0002GQ-4i - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:27:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqMbZ-0002C6-1o - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:27:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqMbX-00024l-I3 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:26:55 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqMFv-0005nD-Mz - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:04:35 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 4A338106818; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:04:34 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (ip15-154.crimea.com [212.110.154.15]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364B8106815; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:04:33 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] +> > + +\start Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:04:58 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list -Cc: Subject: cat: D:/Program: No such file or directory Hi William, hi *, @@ -37378,42 +24120,11 @@ interpreted as "d:/Program". What I did wrong? -Thank you for help in advance. - - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqNZn-00025K-Uu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:29:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqNZE-0001rF-0C - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:28:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqNYo-0001fr-16 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:28:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqNYm-0001eG-HM - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:28:08 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.184] (helo=tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqNHZ-0002AY-VM - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:10:22 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([64.228.8.73]) by tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050117031018.JEIZ1919.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:10:18 -0500 +Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:10:40 -0500 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem -Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:10:40 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list William, @@ -37724,41 +24435,12 @@ After you are confident that it does work elsewhere, then the best people to help you to get it to work at home would be the technical support at your ISP. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqNdv-0003Q1-5M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:33:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqNds-0003Of-3X - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:33:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqNdp-0003Mr-7M - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:33:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqNdo-0003LN-9w - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:33:20 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqNNz-0002gW-Ro - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:17:00 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 1DF4E1068F1; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 05:16:59 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin135.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.135]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA15106827 - for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 05:16:57 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 05:17:22 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list Subject: Modification of axiom.input ? -Hi *, - I put the following lines into axiom.input )set quit unprotected @@ -37771,52 +24453,11 @@ numbering of the I/O lines. What I did wrong and how to fix this? -Much thanks for help in advance. - - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqO7b-0004yd-1y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:04:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqO7L-0004tW-Hb - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:03:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqO2s-0004C9-9o - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:59:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqO2q-00041o-Qv - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:59:13 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqNbc-000433-K9 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:31:04 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j0H3UwA7023863 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:30:58 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j0H3Uw3P023860; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:30:58 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:30:58 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Vladimir Bondarenko Subject: Re: Modification of axiom.input ? - list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" -Cc: list - - ---0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Vladimir Bondarenko [Vladimir Bondarenko] wrote: > Hi *, @@ -37825,56 +24466,11 @@ Vladimir Bondarenko [Vladimir Bondarenko] wrote: On unix the relevant file is .axiom.input (note leading '.'). --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks - without knowledge, of things without parallel." -- Ambrose Bierce - - ---0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB6zFyjwioWRGe9K0RAmNRAJ9P4rSZLVF8PXY9nqmDGTl5shDvhQCgoHKG -YzSOEvh0Ph3d4z6j5BKnwcY= -=+KIs ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqO8e-0005Pz-Jl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:05:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqO8b-0005Od-2x - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:05:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqO2w-0004D7-On - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:59:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqO2s-00041o-4i - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:59:14 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqNaT-0003zF-FS - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:29:53 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id D0CC9106818; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 05:29:52 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin153.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.153]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E41106815; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 05:29:51 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 05:30:15 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: Bill Page -Subject: Re[2]: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )summary - issue -Cc: list +Subject: Re[2]: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )summary issue BP> Vladimir report is based on the windows version of "Tuesday BP> November 30, 2004". Since that time there have been at least @@ -37927,42 +24523,11 @@ BP> works proper when there are spaces. If this would help I work under Windows XP... - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqOZH-0005Se-OJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:32:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqOZF-0005Rx-QZ - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:32:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqOWv-00059o-2s - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:30:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqOWr-00055E-03 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:30:13 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqOC3-0006nV-TC - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:08:44 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 108651068D6; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:08:43 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin156.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.156]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A4E1068D5; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:08:41 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:09:07 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: Bob McElrath Subject: Re[2]: Modification of axiom.input ? - <20050117033058.GA16280@mcelrath.org> -Cc: list BM> Vladimir Bondarenko [Vladimir Bondarenko] wrote: >> Hi *, @@ -37978,43 +24543,11 @@ encountered this problem there. However, one fine day I hope to use UNIX version, too, and I have already memorized your clarification. -Thanks again. - - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqObw-0006Iq-4S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:35:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqOX8-0005Fd-Rs - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:30:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqOWt-0005B3-00 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:30:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqOWs-00055E-Os - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:30:14 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqO6U-0006QZ-88 - for list; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:02:58 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 01F51106810; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:02:56 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin156.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.156]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F69710680C - for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:02:55 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:03:21 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list -Subject: [Q] Staistics generated by )set message summary - on ? +Subject: [Q] Staistics generated by )set message summary on ? Good Day! @@ -38028,39 +24561,7 @@ I tried several commands but each time see the same message, How to see "live" statistic message? Say, an example of commands it is generated with? - -Thank you in advance. - - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqPmP-0003A0-9d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqPmJ-00035R-CI - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqPmD-00033L-FM - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqPmD-00032w-DN - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:09 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqPXx-0004UO-Sx - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:35:26 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id E0B2E10682B; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:35:25 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin144.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.144]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC51C106810 - for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:35:24 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:35:49 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list @@ -38133,35 +24634,7 @@ BUT ..................................................................... -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqPmY-0003CG-2m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqPmO-00039W-9W - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqPmH-00036d-IX - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqPmH-00032w-F7 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:13 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqPLO-0003fy-9h - for list; 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Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqPmE-00032w-6N - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:10 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqPVX-0004MB-Us - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:32:56 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 5AF75106810; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:32:55 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin144.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.144]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9D010680C - for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:32:54 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:33:18 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list -Subject: AXIOM BUG: D: Error detected within library code: - Invalid argument +Subject: AXIOM BUG: D: Error detected within library code: Invalid argument Hi *, @@ -38295,92 +24736,25 @@ Hi *, >> Error detected within library code: Invalid argument -Of cause, 0 is expected. - - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - +Of course, 0 is expected. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqQQa-0006EK-Dn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:31:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqQPn-00065o-Le - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:31:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqQPe-00063N-Pj - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:30:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqQPc-0005sm-Q4 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:30:53 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqPla-0006D0-1D - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:49:30 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id C7059106839; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:49:28 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (ip42-154.crimea.com [212.110.154.42]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E372610682B - for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:49:27 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:49:52 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list Subject: [Q] .daase files extension name? -Hi *, - Why the .daase files have such an extension? Is this an acronym? Thank you for hints/explanations in advance. - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqQQf-0006IS-V3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:31:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqQPm-00065Z-CB - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:31:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqQPa-00061Z-G9 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:30:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqQPZ-0005sm-OT - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:30:50 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.107] (helo=out007.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqPsE-0006Zc-Qi - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:56:23 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out007.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050117055620.RZOB21228.out007.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:56:20 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:56:39 -0500 From: William Sit To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom domains and Aldor return types - <006b01c4f9c1$e167d820$6601a8c0@Asus> - <16871.43189.151350.227993@seam101.local> - <20050114154351.GA19788@lattice.dyns.cx> - <41E7F86B.4A374F7A@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - <20050114183834.GA21305@lattice.dyns.cx> - <41E9778A.563BBF50@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - <41E97D70.2469FC70@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - <20050116190430.GA4587@lattice.dyns.cx> - [162.83.133.69] at Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:56:19 -0600 -Cc: Ralf Hemmecke, list +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Steve: @@ -38771,36 +25145,11 @@ circumstances. That might be a good master thesis. This discussion started with whether Axiom can simulate dependent signature and I believe you now agree that it can. -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqRoc-0006gV-H9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:00:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqRoT-0006bz-69 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:00:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqRoP-0006Yv-Nl - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:00:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqRoP-0006Vp-EW - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:00:33 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.107] (helo=out007.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqRVM-0007x0-8L - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:40:52 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out007.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050117074051.SKPU21228.out007.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:40:51 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:41:11 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bill Page Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem - [162.83.133.69] at Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:40:51 -0600 -Cc: list Bill: @@ -38842,97 +25191,11 @@ go through. I'll try checking on the network when I got more time. 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Add I await your contribution of a useful bug report with baited breath ;) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqZBm-0002fo-DV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:53:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqZBk-0002ep-Ci - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:53:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqZ9v-0001qE-5K - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:51:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqZ9u-0001bd-SF - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:51:14 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.188] (helo=tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqYkb-0006g4-GI - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:25:06 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.188]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050117152502.XHOX25979.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:25:02 -0500 +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:25:21 -0500 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:25:21 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -William, Previously I wrote: > > All of this still suggests to some serious network configuration @@ -39020,39 +25254,11 @@ such as https. I am sorry that I am unaware of anything that could cause such behaviour except some limitation in your Internet connection. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqZFU-0004g8-FQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:57:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqZFK-0004bX-BC - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:56:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqZFD-0004W8-FA - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:56:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqZFD-0004Va-3a - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:56:43 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.4] (helo=tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqZ2j-0000zi-9b - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:43:49 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([216.209.110.188]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050117154344.DBNU1836.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:43:44 -0500 +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:43:50 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Stephen Wilson -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:43:50 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Tim Daly, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:04 PM Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -39088,44 +25294,11 @@ in what sense is it incorrect. Can you give an example that might apply the other 1% of the time? Do you mean because the magnitude could exceed fixnum? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqa1R-0006r8-Dz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:46:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqZob-00053z-VT - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:33:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqZoE-0004vu-E3 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:32:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqZoD-0004up-Sx - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:32:53 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.243.11] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqZXi-0005BJ-Lp - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:15:50 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0HGFXDc007325; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:15:33 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0HGFXx5007324; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:15:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:15:33 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <001301c4fcab$632a9a00$6501a8c0@Asus> -Cc: list, Tim Daly, Tim Daly - -Hi Bill, > Do you mean because the magnitude could exceed fixnum? @@ -39136,45 +25309,11 @@ were needed). But I have never read such a rule, and so when I write the statement `for j in 10..' I would not expect there to be an upper bound (or that j would eventually become negative, for that matter). -Sincerely, -Steve - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqaBm-0004DG-GR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:57:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqaBj-0004Bx-Jb - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:57:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqaBf-00049o-QJ - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:57:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqaBf-00049d-LI - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:57:07 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqZyI-0000Yz-Hm - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:43:18 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (203.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.203]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0HGhDE23501; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:43:13 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0HHNag01975; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:23:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:23:36 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson - Wilson on Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:15:33 -0500) -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <001301c4fcab$632a9a00$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050117161533.GA6459@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list, Tim Daly, Tim Daly - -Steve, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. I don't know if there is an actual statement to the effect that the upper bound on a loop would be a register-sized number (32 @@ -39187,39 +25326,11 @@ exceeded. There is a practical performance difference to be gained by using (declare (fixnum as the compiler can, in the best case, assign a register to the loop variable. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqaNs-00013G-E9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:09:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqaNp-00011H-7h - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:09:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqaNl-0000zG-I7 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:09:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqaNl-0000yu-DH - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:09:37 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.127] (helo=swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqaAp-0002GO-Ew - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:56:15 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.124] (hemmecke@rose.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.124]) - by swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - j0HGu3uM005256; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:56:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:56:04 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with - explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <200501171723.j0HHNag01975@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. This sounds like forbidding @@ -39243,80 +25354,23 @@ root wrote: > exceeded. There is a practical performance difference to > be gained by using (declare (fixnum as the compiler can, > in the best case, assign a register to the loop variable. -> -> t - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqanu-0006u8-Il - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:36:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqaid-0005af-Ao - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:31:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqaiP-0005T6-GE - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:30:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqaiP-0005Qa-CB - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:30:57 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.46] (helo=out014.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqaPd-000432-Gs - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:11:33 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out014.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050117171132.WRKQ28388.out014.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:11:32 -0600 + +\start Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:11:53 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bill Page Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem - [162.83.133.69] at Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:11:32 -0600 -Cc: list - -Hi Bill: I was not able to access Mathaction at all today. But I have no problem with any other sites I want to access. I'll try accessing Mathaction tomorrow from school. -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqaub-0002Hz-Nd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqauZ-0002Gy-LQ - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqauX-0002Fy-R3 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqauX-0002Fv-O7 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:29 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.143] (helo=out005.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqag0-00067t-Oi - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:28:29 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out005.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050117172827.NSUR28362.out005.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:28:27 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:28:48 -0500 From: William Sit To: Ralf Hemmecke, Tim Daly, list -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles withexplicitdependencies, - bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <001301c4fcab$632a9a00$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050117161533.GA6459@lattice.dyns.cx> - <200501171723.j0HHNag01975@localhost.localdomain> - <41EBEE24.2000805@hemmecke.de> <41EBF4F5.F41442F8@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - [162.83.133.69] at Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:28:27 -0600 -Cc: +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles withexplicitdependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. (21) -> for i in 10^32 .. 10^32+5 repeat print i 100000000000000000000000000000000 @@ -39359,47 +25413,11 @@ William Sit wrote: > > > in the best case, assign a register to the loop variable. > > > --- -William Sit -Department of Mathematics....Email: William Sit -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -Convent Ave at West 138th Street........Fax: 212-862-0004 -New York, NY 10031..Axiom, A Scientific Computation Sytem -USA............... http://www.nongnu.org/axiom/index.html - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqavF-0002Vx-2F - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:44:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqaun-0002OT-47 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqaud-0002JK-7b - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqaud-0002Fv-2i - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:35 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.133] (helo=out010.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqacW-0005dZ-Lq - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:24:52 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out010.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050117172451.SKMC24714.out010.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:24:51 -0600 +\start Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:25:09 -0500 From: William Sit To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles withexplicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <001301c4fcab$632a9a00$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050117161533.GA6459@lattice.dyns.cx> - <200501171723.j0HHNag01975@localhost.localdomain> - <41EBEE24.2000805@hemmecke.de> - [162.83.133.69] at Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:24:50 -0600 -Cc: list, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles withexplicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Let's not forget that 2^32 is over 4 billion. @@ -39429,40 +25447,12 @@ Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > exceeded. There is a practical performance difference to > > be gained by using (declare (fixnum as the compiler can, > > in the best case, assign a register to the loop variable. -> > - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqavG-0002WY-Sj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:44:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqaul-0002OB-SW - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqaug-0002KD-75 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqaud-0002Fv-UQ - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:35 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqaZM-0005FN-MY - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:21:36 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0HHL4XK169132; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:21:08 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:18:27 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bob McElrath Subject: re: hyperdoc - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - - <200501141806.j0EI6XW17216@localhost.localdomain> - <20050114224825.GD9951@mcelrath.org> -Cc: list, Tim Daly Dear Bob, * @@ -39484,37 +25474,10 @@ there are some things I really like about LaTeX: * I can send it to www.arxiv.org. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqb2W-0004VX-FC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:51:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqb2R-0004SS-6C - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:51:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqb2J-0004Om-FW - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:51:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqb2J-0004Mu-8y - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:51:31 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqal2-0006tR-Mo - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:33:40 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (203.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.203]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0HHXcE24951; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:33:38 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0HIE1W02053; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:14:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:14:01 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: loop index fixnum assumption Ralf, @@ -39531,41 +25494,11 @@ that the loop index operations will not overflow. Axiom can support bignums up to the size of lisps memory so it isn't really a restriction, just an assumption. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqb2W-0004Vw-VB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:51:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqb2P-0004Su-Vc - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:51:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqb2K-0004QB-RP - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:51:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqb2K-0004Mu-Ji - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:51:32 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.127] (helo=swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqajQ-0006cn-7c - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:32:00 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.117] (hemmecke@dragonfly.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.37.117]) - by swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - j0HHVuuM009418; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:31:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:31:56 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: William Sit -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles withexplicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <001301c4fcab$632a9a00$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050117161533.GA6459@lattice.dyns.cx> - <200501171723.j0HHNag01975@localhost.localdomain> - <41EBEE24.2000805@hemmecke.de> <41EBF4F5.F41442F8@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -Cc: list +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles withexplicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Well, is this construction better? @@ -39575,10 +25508,6 @@ for i in n..n+1 repeat ... I am not saying that I would use it, but who knows what pops up in a computation? -Ralf - - - William Sit wrote: > Let's not forget that 2^32 is over 4 billion. > @@ -39611,33 +25540,10 @@ William Sit wrote: >>>in the best case, assign a register to the loop variable. >>> - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqbSD-0003ox-Pc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:18:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqbSB-0003oI-KK - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:18:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqbSA-0003nW-7t - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:18:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqbS9-0003n6-RQ - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:18:13 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.143] (helo=out005.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqbFB-0001u5-UD - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:04:50 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out005.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050117180449.OFAW28362.out005.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:04:49 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:05:09 -0500 From: William Sit -To: Tim Daly, list - [162.83.133.69] at Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:04:48 -0600 -Cc: +To: Tim Daly Subject: Serious One Line Crashing Axiom ******Warning: Please save your Axiom session before trying this! @@ -39672,46 +25578,11 @@ and NAG version did not crash, but still possibly a bug. Sorry, I did not update to the newest version. Please test! -William --- -William Sit -Department of Mathematics....Email: William Sit -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -Convent Ave at West 138th Street........Fax: 212-862-0004 -New York, NY 10031..Axiom, A Scientific Computation Sytem -USA............... http://www.nongnu.org/axiom/index.html - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqbut-0001Pg-Sp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:47:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqbl5-0000e3-9r - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:37:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqbkq-0000UL-Ng - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:37:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqbkq-0000Tc-Lr - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:37:32 -0500 -Received: from [32.97.166.32] (helo=prserv.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqbWu-0003l4-Nl - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:23:09 -0500 -Received: from [127.0.0.1] (slip-12-64-147-50.mis.prserv.net[12.64.147.50]) - by attglobal.net (out2) with ESMTP - id <2005011718220420205fnod4e>; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:22:05 +0000 +\start Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:21:55 -0500 From: Eugene Surowitz - rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 To: Bill Page Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem - boundary="------------040201080902040707090805" -Cc: list - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------040201080902040707090805 FYI: I just tried http://page.axiom-developer.org and clicked on MathAction Wiki; @@ -39985,124 +25856,11 @@ and make this change? 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-a bristle with einstein -we us toledo? impend -with via ca ambrosial -is beechwood I out cube -by be a as revet - - - - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqc4L-0007HN-Gj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:57:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqc4F-0007D4-NU - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:57:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqc4A-0007A1-1T - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:57:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqc47-00076b-3Q - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:57:27 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.243.11] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqbn2-0005p8-2C - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:39:48 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0HIdkBp007772; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:39:46 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0HIdjTq007771; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:39:45 -0500 +\start Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:39:45 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <001301c4fcab$632a9a00$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050117161533.GA6459@lattice.dyns.cx> - <200501171723.j0HHNag01975@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, Tim Daly - - -Tim, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. I compleatly fine with the fixnum declaration. We just need to make sure it is a rule programmers can rely on. Consider: @@ -40133,10 +25891,6 @@ We get generic arithmetic: (LETT |i| (+ |i| 1) |ITER;iter;V;1|) -Baffled, -Steve - - On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:23:36PM -0500, root wrote: > Steve, > @@ -40150,42 +25904,12 @@ On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:23:36PM -0500, root wrote: > exceeded. There is a practical performance difference to > be gained by using (declare (fixnum as the compiler can, > in the best case, assign a register to the loop variable. -> -> t - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqcf6-0000Bn-EP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:35:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqce9-0008TB-QZ - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:34:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqcdh-0008JG-Q8 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:34:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqcdf-0008Cd-Nu - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:34:11 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqc8g-0008Ne-J6 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:02:10 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id B588D644591; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:02:09 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 92A40644653; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:02:07 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:02:07 -0500 + +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:02:06 -0500 From: Bill Page -To: "'Eugene Surowitz'" Eugene Surowitz, - Bill Page +To: Eugene Surowitz, Bill Page Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:02:06 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list On Monday, January 17, 2005 1:22 PM Eugene Surowitz wrote: @@ -40201,43 +25925,11 @@ cause. Please let me know whenever you have a problem. Thanks again. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqcob-0002ab-AE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:45:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqcoY-0002YV-15 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:45:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqcoU-0002WI-6u - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:45:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqcoT-0002UM-OD - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:45:21 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqcUh-000233-EH - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:24:56 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 226EF6446D5; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:24:55 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id A21F46446D6; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:24:53 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:24:53 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: "'William Sit'" William Sit, - Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit depende - ncies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:24:52 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list, Tim Daly +From: Bill Page +To: William Sit, Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. William, Ralf, Tim; @@ -40340,52 +26032,12 @@ lisp code occurs. > > > > exceeded. There is a practical performance difference to > > > > be gained by using (declare (fixnum as the compiler can, > > > > in the best case, assign a register to the loop variable. -> > > > -> -> -- -> William Sit -> Department of Mathematics....Email: William Sit -> City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -> Convent Ave at West 138th Street........Fax: 212-862-0004 -> New York, NY 10031..Axiom, A Scientific Computation Sytem -> USA............... http://www.nongnu.org/axiom/index.html -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqdfM-0001Sk-Mn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:40:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqdfL-0001Rr-4e - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:39:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqdfK-0001RR-Df - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:39:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqdbS-0000Q4-H9 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:35:58 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqd5m-0005n2-Kd - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:03:14 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 6A12910695A; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:03:03 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin150.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.150]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7AC106957; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:03:01 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] + +\start Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:03:30 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: William Sit Subject: Re: Serious One Line Crashing Axiom -Cc: list Bravo William, @@ -40438,57 +26090,11 @@ WS> Sorry, I did not update to the newest version. Please test! WS> William - - - -Viva la Cyber Tester! - --- -Vladimir Bondarenko - -GEMM architect -Co-founder, CEO, Mathematical Director -Cyber Tester, LLC -13 Dekabristov Str, Simferopol -Crimea 95000, Ukraine -tel: +38-(0652)-447325 -tel: +38-(0652)-230243 -tel: +38-(0652)-523144 -fax: +38-(0652)-510700 - -http://www.cybertester.com/ -http://maple.bug-list.org/ -http://www.CAS-testing.org/ - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqdbf-0000g9-JY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:36:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqdbQ-0000Zf-5R - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:35:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqdb5-0000TW-Il - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:35:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqdb5-0000Q4-En - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:35:35 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.141] (helo=out002.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqdE1-0006R6-Lg - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:11:46 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out002.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050117201143.WVIT12052.out002.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:11:43 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:12:05 -0500 From: William Sit -To: Tim Daly, list +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Serious One Line Crashing Axiom - [162.83.133.69] at Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:11:43 -0600 -Cc: Here is the lisp info on NAG version: @@ -40723,57 +26329,12 @@ William Sit wrote: > and NAG version did not crash, but still possibly a bug. > > Sorry, I did not update to the newest version. Please test! -> -> William -> -- -> William Sit -> Department of Mathematics....Email: William Sit -> City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -> Convent Ave at West 138th Street........Fax: 212-862-0004 -> New York, NY 10031..Axiom, A Scientific Computation Sytem -> USA............... http://www.nongnu.org/axiom/index.html -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer --- -William Sit -Department of Mathematics....Email: William Sit -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -Convent Ave at West 138th Street........Fax: 212-862-0004 -New York, NY 10031..Axiom, A Scientific Computation Sytem -USA............... http://www.nongnu.org/axiom/index.html - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqdgT-0001ng-7T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:41:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqdgQ-0001m9-FQ - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:41:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqdgP-0001lV-Hq - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:41:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqdbX-0000Q4-97 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:36:03 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.133] (helo=out010.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqd3J-0005bg-6s - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:00:41 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out010.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050117200040.UPFY24714.out010.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:00:40 -0600 +\start Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:01:01 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bill Page Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem - [162.83.133.69] at Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:00:39 -0600 -Cc: list "Page, Bill" wrote: > @@ -40807,38 +26368,11 @@ What is the priority on read vs write? any statistics on read vs write? Martin, what type of response you have? Do you have to set the browser in any special way? -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqdoB-0003ug-T7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:49:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqdnv-0003t5-Pd - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:48:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqdnt-0003rl-P7 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:48:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqdnt-0003rD-1f - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:48:49 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqdW4-00087J-J1 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:30:24 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 3A20F10697F; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:03:10 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin150.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.150]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C5C10695C; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:03:08 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:03:37 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: Bill Page -Subject: Re[4]: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )summary - issue -Cc: list +Subject: Re[4]: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )summary issue BP> Because you have installed the cygwin version of `cat' in a BP> location that is earlier in your program search path than @@ -40882,49 +26416,10 @@ are awaiting? If this is the case, sure, the world's # 1 CAS tester, I will supply you with them, and much more. - -Best, - -Vladimir Bondarenko - -GEMM architect - -http://www.cybertester.com/ -http://maple.bug-list.org/ -http://www.CAS-testing.org/ - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqdv2-000720-H0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:56:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqduw-0006z0-Ca - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:56:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqdur-0006vX-5N - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:56:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqdur-0006vU-2w - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:56:01 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqddd-0000Qc-FM - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:38:13 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 206BF64440D; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:38:13 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id A61F9644402; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:38:11 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:38:11 -0500 +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:38:11 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Mike Thomas -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:38:11 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list, Tim Daly, Tim Daly Subject: RE: [Gcl-devel] Axiom on Windows GCL problems Mike, @@ -40947,12 +26442,6 @@ Regards, Bill Page. -----Original Message----- -From: Aaron Bentley -Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:03 PM -To: Martin Rubey -Cc: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org -Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] failed inode signature validation... - Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -40993,46 +26482,11 @@ hassle once set up. See here: http://regexps.srparish.net/www/tutorial/html/revision-libraries.html -Aaron - --- -Aaron Bentley -Director of Technology -Panometrics, Inc. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqdvC-00075i-OK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:56:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqdv3-00072H-57 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:56:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqduv-0006yH-AV - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:56:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqdut-0006vU-Vb - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:56:04 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqdSX-0007qO-CB - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:26:45 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 12A5B64440C; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:26:45 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id A01BF644408; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:26:43 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:26:43 -0500 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:26:42 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Vladimir Bondarenko -Subject: RE: Re[4]: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )s - ummary issue -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:26:42 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Re[4]: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )summary issue On Monday, January 17, 2005 3:04 PM Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: @@ -41115,41 +26569,11 @@ Please "yes" supply all of them. But please use the issuetracker to document each problem (after you have discused it by email, if you wish). -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqdww-0007qA-Oa - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:58:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqdwt-0007p4-Vu - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:58:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqdwr-0007nq-Va - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:58:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqdwr-0007n5-Kl - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:58:05 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqdk0-000118-PC - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:44:48 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 70408644424; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:44:48 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id B67FB644420; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:44:46 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:44:46 -0500 +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:44:45 -0500 From: Bill Page -To: "'Eugene Surowitz'" Eugene Surowitz +To: Eugene Surowitz Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:44:45 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list On Monday, January 17, 2005 2:02 PM I wrote: @@ -41172,168 +26596,88 @@ function and fast access to objects. I have rebuilt the catalog index files and also compressed the Zope database. I hope that that cures the problem. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqeeE-0003XI-6t - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:42:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqedq-000364-Js - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:42:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqedn-00033z-JS - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:42:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqedn-00033w-F0 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:42:27 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqeOI-0004bK-Ba - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:26:26 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0HLQCKe002245; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:26:12 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:26:12 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [FrontPage] - - -??changed: --The CAISS seal -The CAISS seal - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage#msg20050117152612-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqf2Q-0000sB-H7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:07:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqf2P-0000rq-IY - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:07:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqf2O-0000re-UZ - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:07:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqew7-0008LE-6J - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:01:23 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.141] (helo=out002.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqeTF-00053f-9G - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:31:33 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out002.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050117213131.XWKI12052.out002.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:31:31 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:31:52 -0500 From: William Sit To: Vladimir Bondarenko Subject: Re: [Q] radicalSolve fails to find all roots ? - [162.83.133.69] at Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:31:31 -0600 -Cc: list -These are NOT bugs! But the following may be! Consider the equation z^n=3D= -1 for n -=3D 7: +These are NOT bugs! But the following may be! Consider the equation +z^n==1 for n = 7: -(1) -> radicalSolve(z^7=3D2) +(1) -> radicalSolve(z^7=2) (1) 7+-+ +---+7+-+ 2%pi 7+-+ 2%pi - [z=3D \|2 , z=3D \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), + [z= \|2 , z= \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), 7 7 +---+7+-+ 4%pi 7+-+ 4%pi - z=3D \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), + z= \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), 7 7 +---+7+-+ 6%pi 7+-+ 6%pi - z=3D \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), + z= \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), 7 7 +---+7+-+ 8%pi 7+-+ 8%pi - z=3D \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), + z= \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), 7 7 +---+7+-+ 10%pi 7+-+ 10%pi - z=3D \|- 1 \|2 sin(-----) + \|2 cos(-----), + z= \|- 1 \|2 sin(-----) + \|2 cos(-----), 7 7 +---+7+-+ 12%pi 7+-+ 12%pi - z=3D \|- 1 \|2 sin(-----) + \|2 cos(-----)] + z= \|- 1 \|2 sin(-----) + \|2 cos(-----)] 7 7 Type: List Equation Expression Integer -------------- comments -Of course, these are correct solutions by Euler's Formula. A bit surprisi= -ng that -radicalSolve invokes these for z^7=3D2 and not for z^7=3D1; when n is 7, = -these -trignometric values are not embeddable in a tower of "solvable" extension= -s. That -is, these are not solutions expressible in terms of radicals (of *real* n= -umbers) -and arithmetic alone. Put another way, the regular 7-gon is not construct= -ible by + +Of course, these are correct solutions by Euler's Formula. A bit +surprising that radicalSolve invokes these for z^7=2 and not for +z^7=1; when n is 7, these trignometric values are not embeddable in a +tower of "solvable" extensions. That is, these are not solutions +expressible in terms of radicals (of *real* numbers) and arithmetic +alone. Put another way, the regular 7-gon is not constructible by compass and ruler alone. From: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ConstructiblePolygon.html http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TrigonometryAngles.html -A necessary and sufficient condition that a regular n-gon be constructibl= -e is -that phi(n) be a power of 2, where phi(n) is the totient function (Kr=EDz= -ek 2001, -p. 34). +A necessary and sufficient condition that a regular n-gon be +constructible is that phi(n) be a power of 2, where phi(n) is the +totient function (Krzek 2001, p. 34). -n =3D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20= +n = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 +phi= 1 1 2 2 4 2 6 4 6 4 10 4 12 6 8 8 16 6 18 8 +bad= x x x x x x x +Vladimir's "not good" values are = -phi=3D 1 1 2 2 4 2 6 4 6 4 10 4 12 6 8 8 16 6 18 8= +n = 7 11 13 14 15 17 19 -bad=3D x x x x x x x -Vladimir's "not good" values are = +So if you compare the constructible regular n-gons, you can see why +Axiom's results are reasonable: radicalSolve only finds solutions that +are expressible in terms of radicals and arithmetic operations. It did +not find those for n = 15 and 17 probably (I am guessing) because at +the time of implementation, these constructions were not known (at +least to the programmer). On the other hand, for n = 9, 18, the +solutions are expressible in radicals only if radicals of *complex* +numbers are allowed and Axiom found those (perhaps it shouldn't?). The +expansion for (-1)^(1/7) that Vladimir gave involves radicals of +complex numbers, as theory predicts. -n =3D 7 11 13 14 15 17 19 - -So if you compare the constructible regular n-gons, you can see why Axiom= -'s -results are reasonable: radicalSolve only finds solutions that are expres= -sible -in terms of radicals and arithmetic operations. It did not find those for= - n =3D 15 -and 17 probably (I am guessing) because at the time of implementation, th= -ese -constructions were not known (at least to the programmer). On the other h= -and, -for n =3D 9, 18, the solutions are expressible in radicals only if radica= -ls of -*complex* numbers are allowed and Axiom found those (perhaps it shouldn't= -?). The -expansion for (-1)^(1/7) that Vladimir gave involves radicals of complex -numbers, as theory predicts. - - -When Axiom cannot find solutions, it is (presumably) a PROOF that the oth= -er -solutions are NOT solvable by radicals (using *real* numbers), or at leas= -t, -there is no known proof that it is solvable at the time of implementation= -=2E (That -is why I am surprised at the above result for z^7=3D2). - -In other words, rather than viewing the answer for z^7=3D1 as a bug, we s= -hould -view the answers for z^7=3D2, z^7=3D3 (and may be even z^9=3D1, z^18=3D1)= - as bugs! + +When Axiom cannot find solutions, it is (presumably) a PROOF that the +other solutions are NOT solvable by radicals (using *real* numbers), +or at least, there is no known proof that it is solvable at the time +of implementation=2E (That is why I am surprised at the above result +for z^7=2). + +In other words, rather than viewing the answer for z^7=1 as a bug, we should +view the answers for z^7=2, z^7=3 (and may be even z^9=1, z^18=1) as bugs! Still, the package should be upgraded. ------------------- -(1) -> radicalSolve(z^9=3D1,z) +(1) -> radicalSolve(z^9=1,z) (1) +------------+ @@ -41341,14 +26685,14 @@ Still, the package should be upgraded. +------------+ +---+ +-+ |- \|- 3 - 1 | +---+ (\|- 1 \|3 - 1) 3|------------ |- \|- 3 - 1 \| 2 - [z=3D 3|------------ , z=3D -------------------------------, + [z= 3|------------ , z= -------------------------------, \| 2 2 +------------+ | +---+ +---+ +-+ |- \|- 3 - 1 +----------+ (- \|- 1 \|3 - 1) 3|------------ | +---+ \| 2 |\|- 3 - 1 - z=3D ---------------------------------, z=3D 3|---------- , + z= ---------------------------------, z= 3|---------- , 2 \| 2 +----------+ +----------+= @@ -41356,63 +26700,63 @@ Still, the package should be upgraded. +---+ +-+ |\|- 3 - 1 +---+ +-+ |\|- 3 - 1 (\|- 1 \|3 - 1) 3|---------- (- \|- 1 \|3 - 1) 3|---------- \| 2 \| 2 - z=3D -----------------------------, z=3D ----------------------------= + z= -----------------------------, z= ----------------------------= ---, 2 2 +---+ +---+ - \|- 3 - 1 \|- 3 - 1 - z=3D ------------, z=3D ----------, z=3D 1] + z= ------------, z= ----------, z= 1] 2 2 Type: List Equation Expression Integer = -(2) -> radicalSolve(z^7=3D3) +(2) -> radicalSolve(z^7=3) (2) 7+-+ +---+7+-+ 2%pi 7+-+ 2%pi - [z=3D \|3 , z=3D \|- 1 \|3 sin(----) + \|3 cos(----), + [z= \|3 , z= \|- 1 \|3 sin(----) + \|3 cos(----), 7 7 +---+7+-+ 4%pi 7+-+ 4%pi - z=3D \|- 1 \|3 sin(----) + \|3 cos(----), + z= \|- 1 \|3 sin(----) + \|3 cos(----), 7 7 +---+7+-+ 6%pi 7+-+ 6%pi - z=3D \|- 1 \|3 sin(----) + \|3 cos(----), + z= \|- 1 \|3 sin(----) + \|3 cos(----), 7 7 +---+7+-+ 8%pi 7+-+ 8%pi - z=3D \|- 1 \|3 sin(----) + \|3 cos(----), + z= \|- 1 \|3 sin(----) + \|3 cos(----), 7 7 +---+7+-+ 10%pi 7+-+ 10%pi - z=3D \|- 1 \|3 sin(-----) + \|3 cos(-----), + z= \|- 1 \|3 sin(-----) + \|3 cos(-----), 7 7 +---+7+-+ 12%pi 7+-+ 12%pi - z=3D \|- 1 \|3 sin(-----) + \|3 cos(-----)] + z= \|- 1 \|3 sin(-----) + \|3 cos(-----)] 7 7 Type: List Equation Expression Integer = -(3) -> radicalSolve(z^7=3D1.) +(3) -> radicalSolve(z^7=1.) 7 WARNING (genufact): No known algorithm to factor ? - 1.0 , trying square-free. (3) +-----+ - [z=3D 1.0, z=3D 0.7818314824 6802980871\|- 1.0 + 0.6234898018 5873353= + [z= 1.0, z= 0.7818314824 6802980871\|- 1.0 + 0.6234898018 5873353= 053, +-----+ - z=3D 0.9749279121 8182360702\|- 1.0 - 0.2225209339 5631440428, + z= 0.9749279121 8182360702\|- 1.0 - 0.2225209339 5631440428, +-----+ - z=3D 0.4338837391 1755812048\|- 1.0 - 0.9009688679 0241912624, + z= 0.4338837391 1755812048\|- 1.0 - 0.9009688679 0241912624, +-----+ - z=3D - 0.4338837391 1755812046\|- 1.0 - 0.9009688679 0241912625, + z= - 0.4338837391 1755812046\|- 1.0 - 0.9009688679 0241912625, +-----+ - z=3D - 0.9749279121 8182360702\|- 1.0 - 0.2225209339 563144043, + z= - 0.9749279121 8182360702\|- 1.0 - 0.2225209339 563144043, +-----+ - z=3D - 0.7818314824 6802980872\|- 1.0 + 0.6234898018 5873353052] + z= - 0.7818314824 6802980872\|- 1.0 + 0.6234898018 5873353052] Type: List Equation Expression Float = -(4) -> radicalSolve(z^6+z^5+z^4+z^3+z^2+z+1=3D0) +(4) -> radicalSolve(z^6+z^5+z^4+z^3+z^2+z+1=0) (4) [] Type: List Equation Expression Integer @@ -41437,12 +26781,12 @@ Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: > ..................................................................... > = -> Obviously, all the roots of the equation z^7 =3D 1 can be expressed in +> Obviously, all the roots of the equation z^7 = 1 can be expressed in > radicals, and Mathematica can easily produce the explicit expressions > in terms of radicals. > = -> Solve[z^7 =3D=3D 1, z] +> Solve[z^7 == 1, z] > = > {{z -> 1}, {z -> -(-1)^(1/7)}, {z -> (-1)^(2/7)}, {z -> -(-1)^(3/7)}, @@ -41489,19 +26833,19 @@ Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: > AXIOM Book> terms of radicals. > = -> However, already for z^7 =3D 1 this is not so, +> However, already for z^7 = 1 this is not so, > = -> -> radicalSolve(z^7=3D1, z) +> -> radicalSolve(z^7=1, z) > = -> [z=3D 1] +> [z= 1] > = > and the problem exists for 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19 etc > = -> -> for i in 1..20 repeat print([i,#radicalSolve(z^i=3D1,z)]) +> -> for i in 1..20 repeat print([i,#radicalSolve(z^i=1,z)]) > = > [1,1] @@ -41524,61 +26868,12 @@ Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: > [18,18] > [19,1] <-- not good > [20,20] -> = - -> ..................................................................... -> = - -> Best, -> = -> Vladimir -> = - -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - --- = - -William Sit -Department of Mathematics....Email: William Sit -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -Convent Ave at West 138th Street........Fax: 212-862-0004 -New York, NY 10031..Axiom, A Scientific Computation Sytem -USA............... http://www.nongnu.org/axiom/index.html - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqfTZ-0000ai-9Y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:35:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqfTW-0000Ze-Oi - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:35:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqfTT-0000YE-Tm - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:35:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqfTT-0000XN-Qs - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:35:51 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.133] (helo=out010.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqfEr-0000vc-8r - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:20:45 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out010.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050117222044.WLBG24714.out010.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:20:44 -0600 +\start Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:21:05 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bill Page Subject: Re: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )summary issue - [162.83.133.69] at Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:20:44 -0600 -Cc: list - -Hi Bill: I tried (sorry, I am always the one with things not working :-( ) to post the oneline crasher on issuetracker. Again, after all the editing, submitting with @@ -41617,39 +26912,11 @@ William > report, it is quite possible that 6 months for now the email > discussion will be forgotten. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqgNG-0003cm-MJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:33:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqgJZ-0002td-IT - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqgJK-0002lT-Qv - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqgJF-0002jE-8q - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:21 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqfzS-0005N9-LG - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:08:54 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 4872A64445D; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:08:54 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 97753644455; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:08:52 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:08:52 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: "'William Sit'" William Sit -Subject: RE: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )summary - issue Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:08:51 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: William Sit +Subject: RE: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )summary issue On Monday, January 17, 2005 5:21 PM William Sit wrote: > ... @@ -41717,38 +26984,11 @@ Bill Page. > > discussion will be forgotten. > - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqgOt-0004Nj-0M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:35:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqgJW-0002s8-HU - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqgJE-0002k7-NK - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqgJD-0002jE-Nd - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:19 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqg46-0005h6-F7 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:13:42 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 2519F644461; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:13:42 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id A7D16644434; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:13:40 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:13:40 -0500 +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:13:39 -0500 From: Bill Page -To: "'William Sit'" William Sit +To: William Sit Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:13:39 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list On Monday, January 17, 2005 5:21 PM William Sit wrote: > @@ -41823,35 +27063,11 @@ PS. Of course this only applies to your Windows system. I do not know what might cause this in the case of linux which uses entirely different software to access the Internet. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqgmo-0002mQ-Ey - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:59:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqgmT-0002hb-4x - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:59:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqgmK-0002db-SL - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:59:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqgmK-0002Xi-JG - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:59:24 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.137] (helo=out012.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqgKM-0007HI-Hj - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:30:30 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out012.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050117233029.WDQW10436.out012.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:30:29 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:30:49 -0500 From: William Sit To: Vladimir Bondarenko -Subject: Re: A terrible bug: romberg+simplify/expand: - slowdownof 125/300 times - [162.83.133.69] at Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:30:28 -0600 -Cc: +Subject: Re: A terrible bug: romberg+simplify/expand: slowdownof 125/300 times Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: @@ -42044,41 +27260,11 @@ must include the coercion to Float): Time: 0.03 (EV) + 0.03 (OT) = 0.07 sec - -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqgq4-0003Pk-Bg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:03:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqgq1-0003PH-RI - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:03:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqgmL-0002ct-VH - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:59:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqgmJ-0002Xi-U7 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:59:23 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqgOF-0007U6-KW - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:34:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 49D35644414; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:34:31 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id A201A644464; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:34:29 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:34:29 -0500 +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:34:28 -0500 From: Bill Page -To: "'William Sit'" William Sit +To: William Sit Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:34:28 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list On Monday, January 17, 2005 6:14 PM I wrote: > @@ -42149,45 +27335,11 @@ LSPs will need to be re-installed. This command displays the list of Winsock LSPs that are installed on the computer. ------------- - -Let me know how it goes. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqhlM-0004ez-0W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:02:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqhl8-0004Ze-Nd - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:02:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqhl1-0004Ud-Hb - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:02:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqhky-0004Nh-JX - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:02:04 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqhTA-0004f2-Ps - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:43:41 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 411DF644415; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:43:40 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id A1AD364446D; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:43:38 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:43:38 -0500 +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:43:37 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: hyperdoc -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:43:37 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list, Tim Daly On Monday, January 17, 2005 12:18 PM Martin Rubey wrote: > @@ -42249,47 +27401,11 @@ input language with more than one system. This would have some obvious applications on MathAction even now between Axiom and Reduce. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqhmz-0005Ga-0c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:04:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqhmv-0005Fn-W9 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:04:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqhmv-0005FT-4U - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:04:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqhlU-0004Nh-DT - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:02:36 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.243.11] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqhNF-0004F2-KG - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:37:33 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0I0bXJc008507; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:37:33 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0I0bXYo008506; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:37:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:37:33 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit - dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <001301c4fcab$632a9a00$6501a8c0@Asus> - <20050117161533.GA6459@lattice.dyns.cx> - <200501171723.j0HHNag01975@localhost.localdomain> - <20050117183945.GA7742@lattice.dyns.cx> -Cc: list - - -Tim, Bill, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. I am no longer baffled. The explanation for the generic arith vs. fixnum arith is in macros.lisp. In the following code from @@ -42380,40 +27496,12 @@ On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 01:39:45PM -0500, Stephen Wilson wrote: > > be gained by using (declare (fixnum as the compiler can, > > in the best case, assign a register to the loop variable. > > -> > t - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqiFu-0004Ya-83 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:34:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqiFM-0004WH-IT - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:33:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqiEz-0004OR-CY - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:33:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqiEz-0004Gb-8r - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:33:05 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqhmT-0006UK-Bo - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:03:37 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 0382264441C; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:03:37 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 9B45B644415; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:03:35 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:03:35 -0500 + +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:03:34 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: hyperdoc -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:03:34 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list, Tim Daly On Monday, January 17, 2005 7:44 PM I wrote: @@ -42442,91 +27530,11 @@ command as input for Axiom. An extended program similar to tm_axiom would be required. So far this ability has not been exploited by very many TeXmacs add-ons. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqigI-0002j6-D7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:01:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqigD-0002fr-RB - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:01:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqigD-0002fG-0U - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:01:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqigC-0002fD-Fo - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:01:12 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqiU7-0001wx-Ja - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:48:43 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I1mSKe010009; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:48:28 -0600 -From: MathAction (Bill Page) -To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:48:28 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [AxiomProblems] - - -??changed: --- DynamicFunctionDomains -- DynamicFunctionDomains:: - - functions with signatures like (a,b,B(a))->(C(a,b)) - -- MutualRecursion:: - - Odd(0)=false, Odd(n)=Even(n-1) - Even(0)=true, Even(n)=Odd(n-1); - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomProblems#msg20050117194828-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqil2-0003sd-HV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:06:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqikw-0003qN-UO - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:06:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqikq-0003nc-Px - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:06:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqikq-0003ll-8D - for list; 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Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:09:13 -0500 +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:09:12 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Stephen Wilson -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit depende - ncies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:09:12 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Steve, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Monday, January 17, 2005 8:52 PM you wrote: > ... @@ -42618,85 +27592,11 @@ why interpsys is being rebuilt. I wonder if both are necessary or is it only the change in interpsys? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqjBb-0002qg-GQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:33:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqjBK-0002kg-Cw - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:33:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqjB8-0002dm-4p - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:33:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqjB7-0002VP-H8 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:33:09 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqikO-0003N3-K4 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:05:32 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I25IKe000557; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:05:18 -0600 -From: MathAction (anonymous) -To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:05:18 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [MainPage] - - -??changed: --Edited again as a test. --\begin{axiom} --2+2 --\end{axiom} -123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 -123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 -123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 -123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 -123 - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/MainPage#msg20050117200518-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqjYE-00081V-Nc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:57:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqjY8-0007zg-Rt - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:56:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqjXu-0007pr-Pa - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:56:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqjXr-0007nm-HC - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:56:39 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.243.11] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqjG2-0005fA-UT - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:38:15 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0I2cIqo008858; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:38:18 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0I2cIU9008857; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:38:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:38:18 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit depende - ncies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly - -Bill, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 09:09:12PM -0500, Page, Bill wrote: > I wonder if both are necessary or is it only the change in @@ -42713,44 +27613,11 @@ were being instantiated at runtime (the vectors had the same layout, just that the runtime lookup of certain functions was proceeding differently). - -Sincerely, -Steve - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqjhC-0003X2-KT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:06:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqjh8-0003Wn-FE - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:06:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqjh6-0003W2-Ph - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:06:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqjh6-0003Vz-Lv - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:06:12 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqjSL-0006qk-A8 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:50:57 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (203.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.203]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0I2opE11982; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:50:51 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0I3VF502628; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:31:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:31:15 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit depende - ncies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: Tim Daly, list - -Bill, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. (btw, it appears that i've been automatically unsubscribed from the axiom mailing lists due to excessive mail bounces. I've just @@ -42892,34 +27759,10 @@ Time: 0 SEC. --------constructor--------- Compiling /home/arch/axiom--hyperdoc--1--base-0/int/algebra/AHYP.NRLIB/code.lsp. - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqjkc-0004PC-Mw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:09:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqjkZ-0004NO-3y - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:09:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqjkV-0004LL-Es - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:09:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqjkV-0004LB-A1 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:09:43 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqjYM-0007Ni-NO - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:57:11 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I2uqKe006766; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:56:53 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:56:52 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:56:52 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#10 romberg slowdown] (new) Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: @@ -43113,41 +27956,10 @@ must include the coercion to Float): Time: 0.03 (EV) + 0.03 (OT) = 0.07 sec - -William - - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/10RombergSlowdown#msg20050117205646-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk34-0008T2-AI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk2w-0008Or-Nx - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk2s-0008M0-7j - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqk2r-0008LB-Qq - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:41 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqjoc-0008RJ-B4 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:13:58 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I3DiKe029885; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:13:44 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:13:44 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:13:44 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#16 Serious One Line Crashing Axiom] (new) WS> ******Warning: Please save your Axiom session before trying this! @@ -43182,43 +27994,11 @@ WS> and NAG version did not crash, but still possibly a bug. WS> Sorry, I did not update to the newest version. Please test! -WS> William - - - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/16SeriousOneLineCrashingAxiom#msg20050117211344-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk3A-0008Vk-Ex - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:29:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk2w-0008Oq-Mw - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk2s-0008LT-47 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqk2r-0008LB-9E - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:41 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqjq2-00007z-LI - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:15:26 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I3FCKe031762; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:15:12 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:15:12 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:15:12 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#16 Serious One Line Crashing Axiom] NAG version - example +Subject: [#16 Serious One Line Crashing Axiom] NAG version example Here is the lisp info on NAG version: @@ -43453,37 +28233,11 @@ William Sit wrote: > and NAG version did not crash, but still possibly a bug. > > Sorry, I did not update to the newest version. Please test! -> -> William --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/16SeriousOneLineCrashingAxiom#msg20050117211511-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk3A-0008Vo-QQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:29:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk2u-0008Mc-Iv - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk2r-0008LE-2U - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqk2q-0008LB-QL - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:41 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqjhR-0007xr-Ug - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:06:34 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I36KKe019410; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:06:20 -0600 + +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:06:20 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:06:20 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#14 arch setup problems] (new) RE: [Gcl-devel] Axiom on Windows GCL problems @@ -43507,16 +28261,7 @@ Rubey solicited from the address@bogus.example.com email list. The reply contains some very useful information, advice and references. -Regards, -Bill Page. - -----Original Message----- -From: Aaron Bentley [address@bogus.example.com">mailto:address@bogus.example.com -Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:03 PM -To: Martin Rubey -Cc: address@bogus.example.com -Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] failed inode signature validation... - Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -43557,85 +28302,21 @@ hassle once set up. See here: http://regexps.srparish.net/www/tutorial/html/revision-libraries.html -Aaron - --- -Aaron Bentley -Director of Technology -Panometrics, Inc. - - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/14ArchSetupProblems#msg20050117210619-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk3D-0008WU-2g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:29:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk31-0008SL-UP - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk2u-0008ND-82 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqk2u-0008LB-5M - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:44 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqjj9-000877-Qt - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:08:19 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I386Ke022090; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:08:06 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:08:06 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:08:06 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#15 integrate(1/(1+z^4), - z=0..1) :: Complex Float] (new) +Subject: [#15 integrate(1/(1+z^4), z=0..1) :: Complex Float] (new) -> integrate(1/(1+z^4), z=0..1) :: Complex Float - 0.2437477471 9968052418 - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/15Integrate11Z4Z01ComplexFloat#msg20050117210806-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk3J-000062-Vh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:29:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk38-0008Uu-K1 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk30-0008Oz-50 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqk2w-0008LB-8L - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:46 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqjfw-0007te-4M - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:05:00 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I34jKe017367; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:04:45 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:04:45 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:04:45 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#13 AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )s ummary] - (new) +Subject: [#13 AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )s ummary] (new) RE: Re[4]: AXIOM for Windows: )copyright and )s ummary From: Page, Bill @@ -43723,41 +28404,10 @@ Please "yes" supply all of them. But please use the issuetracker to document each problem (after you have discused it by email, if you wish). -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/13AXIOMForWindowsCopyrightAndSUmmary#msg20050117210445-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk3L-00006m-II - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:29:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk37-0008Tr-Bj - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk30-0008Qm-6m - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqk2y-0008LB-Tk - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:48 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqjZn-0007VC-56 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:58:41 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I2wKKe008663; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:58:20 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:58:20 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:58:20 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#11 Mathaction edit/save] (new) From: Page, Bill @@ -43833,48 +28483,11 @@ LSPs will need to be re-installed. This command displays the list of Winsock LSPs that are installed on the computer. ------------- - -Let me know how it goes. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/11MathactionEditSave#msg20050117205820-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk3K-000066-DA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:29:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk37-0008Ts-FD - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk30-0008Q6-65 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqk2x-0008LB-Pv - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:47 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqjdY-0007kk-2K - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:02:32 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I32HKe014208; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:02:17 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:02:17 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:02:17 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#12 radicalSolve fails to find all roots ?] - (new) +Subject: [#12 radicalSolve fails to find all roots ?] (new) Re: [Q] radicalSolve fails to find all roots ? From: William Sit @@ -43908,19 +28521,21 @@ These are NOT bugs! But the following may be! Consider the equation z^n=1 for n Type: List Equation Expression Integer -------------- comments -Of course, these are correct solutions by Euler's Formula. A bit surprising that -radicalSolve invokes these for z^7=2 and not for z^7=1; when n is 7, these -trignometric values are not embeddable in a tower of "solvable" extensions. That -is, these are not solutions expressible in terms of radicals (of *real* numbers) -and arithmetic alone. Put another way, the regular 7-gon is not constructible by + +Of course, these are correct solutions by Euler's Formula. A bit +surprising that radicalSolve invokes these for z^7=2 and not for +z^7=1; when n is 7, these trignometric values are not embeddable in a +tower of "solvable" extensions. That is, these are not solutions +expressible in terms of radicals (of *real* numbers) and arithmetic +alone. Put another way, the regular 7-gon is not constructible by compass and ruler alone. From: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ConstructiblePolygon.html http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TrigonometryAngles.html -A necessary and sufficient condition that a regular n-gon be constructible is -that phi(n) be a power of 2, where phi(n) is the totient function (Krízek 2001, -p. 34). +A necessary and sufficient condition that a regular n-gon be +constructible is that phi(n) be a power of 2, where phi(n) is the +totient function (Krízek 2001, p. 34). n = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 phi= 1 1 2 2 4 2 6 4 6 4 10 4 12 6 8 8 16 6 18 8 @@ -43928,21 +28543,23 @@ bad= x x x x x x x Vladimir's "not good" values are n = 7 11 13 14 15 17 19 -So if you compare the constructible regular n-gons, you can see why Axiom's -results are reasonable: radicalSolve only finds solutions that are expressible -in terms of radicals and arithmetic operations. It did not find those for n = 15 -and 17 probably (I am guessing) because at the time of implementation, these -constructions were not known (at least to the programmer). On the other hand, -for n = 9, 18, the solutions are expressible in radicals only if radicals of -*complex* numbers are allowed and Axiom found those (perhaps it shouldn't?). The -expansion for (-1)^(1/7) that Vladimir gave involves radicals of complex -numbers, as theory predicts. +So if you compare the constructible regular n-gons, you can see why +Axiom's results are reasonable: radicalSolve only finds solutions that +are expressible in terms of radicals and arithmetic operations. It did +not find those for n = 15 and 17 probably (I am guessing) because at +the time of implementation, these constructions were not known (at +least to the programmer). On the other hand, for n = 9, 18, the +solutions are expressible in radicals only if radicals of *complex* +numbers are allowed and Axiom found those (perhaps it shouldn't?). The +expansion for (-1)^(1/7) that Vladimir gave involves radicals of +complex numbers, as theory predicts. -When Axiom cannot find solutions, it is (presumably) a PROOF that the other -solutions are NOT solvable by radicals (using *real* numbers), or at least, -there is no known proof that it is solvable at the time of implementation. (That -is why I am surprised at the above result for z^7=2). +When Axiom cannot find solutions, it is (presumably) a PROOF that the +other solutions are NOT solvable by radicals (using *real* numbers), +or at least, there is no known proof that it is solvable at the time +of implementation. (That is why I am surprised at the above result for +z^7=2). In other words, rather than viewing the answer for z^7=1 as a bug, we should view the answers for z^7=2, z^7=3 (and may be even z^9=1, z^18=1) as bugs! @@ -44118,58 +28735,11 @@ Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: > [18,18] > [19,1] <-- not good > [20,20] -> -> ..................................................................... -> -> Best, -> -> Vladimir -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> address@bogus.example.com -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - --- -William Sit -Department of Mathematics....Email: address@bogus.example.com -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -Convent Ave at West 138th Street........Fax: 212-862-0004 -New York, NY 10031..Axiom, A Scientific Computation Sytem -USA............... http://www.nongnu.org/axiom/index.html - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/12RadicalSolveFailsToFindAllRoots#msg20050117210215-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk6S-0001yg-8s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:32:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk6O-0001wv-Jn - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:32:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk6L-0001ug-Fq - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:32:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqk6L-0001te-0Z - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:32:17 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqjsT-0000Nm-Tb - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:17:58 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I3HhKe003014; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:17:43 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:17:43 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:17:43 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#17 algebra BOOTSTRAP fixed point] (new) William, Ralf, Tim; @@ -44273,41 +28843,12 @@ lisp code occurs. > > > > exceeded. There is a practical performance difference to > > > > be gained by using (declare (fixnum as the compiler can, > > > > in the best case, assign a register to the loop variable. -> > > > -> -> -- -> William Sit --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/17AlgebraBOOTSTRAPFixedPoint#msg20050117211743-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk6T-0001yz-0D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:32:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk6O-0001x3-R9 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:32:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqk6L-0001uP-1Y - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:32:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqk6K-0001te-TD - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:32:16 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqjuR-0000Xd-1g - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:19:59 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I3JOKe005224; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:19:24 -0600 + +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:19:24 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:19:24 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#17 algebra BOOTSTRAP fixed point] fixnum - optimization in new compiler +Subject: [#17 algebra BOOTSTRAP fixed point] fixnum optimization in new compiler I compleatly fine with the fixnum declaration. We just need to make sure it is a rule programmers can rely on. Consider: @@ -44337,50 +28878,12 @@ We get generic arithmetic: (LETT |i| (+ |i| 1) |ITER;iter;V;1|) - -Baffled, -Steve - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/17AlgebraBOOTSTRAPFixedPoint#msg20050117211924-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqkbz-0000bq-5t - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:04:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqkbx-0000bc-2s - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:04:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqkbw-0000bQ-9X - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:04:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqkZ5-0008Hx-9o - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:01:59 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqk3C-00017p-Dd - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:29:02 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I3SjKe018064; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:28:45 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:28:45 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:28:45 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#18 Axiom domains and Aldor return types] (new) -Re: Axiom domains and Aldor return types -From: William Sit -Subject: Re: Axiom domains and Aldor return types -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:56:39 -0500 - -Steve: - Stephen Wilson wrote: > First, let me thank you for your analysis! I am finding the questions @@ -44439,33 +28942,34 @@ Two comments: (1) Axiom can also hide S as you prefer: bar(r)$Foo(R,p) But notice that in such case, S is fixed (hardwired), much like your -residueClassRing(p) is fixed because of encapsulation in ModularComputation. The -original way, with S as a parameter, allows easy changes of representation of S -(hey, except for signature, bar(r)$Foo(R,p,S) is really a function of 4 -parameters). The Aldor way would need to replace R by R1, which is another -wrapper around the base ring R. On the other hand, the original way, Q can -depend on S and now it cannot. If Aldor allows signatures like: +residueClassRing(p) is fixed because of encapsulation in +ModularComputation. The original way, with S as a parameter, allows +easy changes of representation of S (hey, except for signature, +bar(r)$Foo(R,p,S) is really a function of 4 parameters). The Aldor +way would need to replace R by R1, which is another wrapper around the +base ring R. On the other hand, the original way, Q can depend on S +and now it cannot. If Aldor allows signatures like: bar:(r:R, p:Ideal(R)) -> BAE(R, p, residueClassRing(p)) -that would be more general. But I worry about the efficiency here: each -evaluation of bar would require a new instantiation of -residueClassRing(p) even if p is fixed! I doubt very much the compiler will -optimize the code for this special, but perhaps common situation. In the Axiom -version, because bar does not depend on p (or rather p is fixed with respect to -bar), only one instantiation will be done. -In a recent message, +that would be more general. But I worry about the efficiency here: +each evaluation of bar would require a new instantiation of +residueClassRing(p) even if p is fixed! I doubt very much the compiler +will optimize the code for this special, but perhaps common +situation. In the Axiom version, because bar does not depend on p (or +rather p is fixed with respect to bar), only one instantiation will be +done. In a recent message, A terrible bug: romberg+simplify/expand: slowdown of 125/300 times -Vladimir gave an example where Axiom does repeatedly invoke a map function from -EF for each of the 2049 evaluations of the function in: +Vladimir gave an example where Axiom does repeatedly invoke a map +function from EF for each of the 2049 evaluations of the function in: romberg(z+->simplify(%i^2), 0, 1, 0.1, 0.1, 10, 12) -(use ")set mess bot on" to see the 2049 selections pass you by), even after the -function z+->simplify(%i^2) is compiled as in +(use ")set mess bot on" to see the 2049 selections pass you by), even +after the function z+->simplify(%i^2) is compiled as in g: (Complex Integer, Integer)->Integer @@ -44475,21 +28979,24 @@ to work over EXPR COMPLEX INT -> EXPR INT simply because %i was used. But I agree that if you want to hide p, then Axiom cannot handle this because the signature for bar would not be available. -(2) If you push your argument further, we can say that everything we compute -only depends on what we know about the integers. We can say there is no need to -communicate a dependence on say a polynomial ring over the integers because all -algorithms only work on the integers (the exponents of the monomials are also -integer vectors). But the way mathematics is developed is to create new objects. -If the algorithm is really for the new object (residue class ring or the -polynomial ring) then it should be reflected in the signature of the code. If -you think the algorithm is only for R, sure you can hide the new object even if -you need it for computation. Of course, one can, like algebraic geometer, take -the view of Spec R which encapsulates all its local rings, but that would be -fine if you have algorithms on sheaves. On the other hand, I think at these high -level of abstractions, it is important to distinguish data structure for an -object, and algorithms for it or its derived objects and not to mix them up. -That is the reason for package constructors in Axiom, to be separated from -domain constructors. They are like two "independent" branches of government. +(2) If you push your argument further, we can say that everything we +compute only depends on what we know about the integers. We can say +there is no need to communicate a dependence on say a polynomial ring +over the integers because all algorithms only work on the integers +(the exponents of the monomials are also integer vectors). But the way +mathematics is developed is to create new objects. If the algorithm +is really for the new object (residue class ring or the polynomial +ring) then it should be reflected in the signature of the code. If you +think the algorithm is only for R, sure you can hide the new object +even if you need it for computation. Of course, one can, like +algebraic geometer, take the view of Spec R which encapsulates all its +local rings, but that would be fine if you have algorithms on +sheaves. On the other hand, I think at these high level of +abstractions, it is important to distinguish data structure for an +object, and algorithms for it or its derived objects and not to mix +them up. That is the reason for package constructors in Axiom, to be +separated from domain constructors. They are like two "independent" +branches of government. > > (II) For each R:A for which a method to construct S for p:P exist, we > > must *retroactively* make R:ComputationMethod. @@ -44500,36 +29007,37 @@ domain constructors. They are like two "independent" branches of government. > residueClassRing example as much as it is a proof that `hindsight is > 20/20'. -I am not arguing against residueClassRing, but more generally and that is why I -abstracted the example. We will never be able to envision all the possible -structures that can be put on a mathematical object at its first implementation. -The Integer domain is a prime example. But there are many other too. For -example, we have trees implemented, but tree domains can also have a Hopf -algebra structure. That is not what most would think of when implementing trees. -So that structure, when needed, say doing renormalization with Feymann graphs in -quantum field theory, would have to be added on later. Whether one wants to add -this directly to the initial construction or not is matter of choice. But in the -end, as my abstract example shows, there is no inherent gain of computation -power or even convenience, and the two calling sequences: +I am not arguing against residueClassRing, but more generally and that +is why I abstracted the example. We will never be able to envision all +the possible structures that can be put on a mathematical object at +its first implementation. The Integer domain is a prime example. But +there are many other too. For example, we have trees implemented, but +tree domains can also have a Hopf algebra structure. That is not what +most would think of when implementing trees. So that structure, when +needed, say doing renormalization with Feymann graphs in quantum field +theory, would have to be added on later. Whether one wants to add this +directly to the initial construction or not is matter of choice. But +in the end, as my abstract example shows, there is no inherent gain of +computation power or even convenience, and the two calling sequences: bar(...)$Algorithm(R,p, Method1(R,p)) bar(p:P, ...)$Algorithm(R) (the second should more correctly be written bar(p:P, ...)$Algorithm(R1) ) -are not that much different. So in Aldor, you can choose whichever you like: -encapsulating more structure into R, or separating the residueClassRing -construction (and I indicated that there is more freedom of expression in -Aldor). In the analogous example I gave, there are many representations -(different data structure, different term ordering) for the polynomial ring, and -it would be crazy to encapsulate such structure into the coefficient domain R. -Can you tell me structurally, both in terms of mathematics and coding, any -difference between the polynomial ring example and the residue class ring -example? Why should one be treated differently than the other in the matter of -encapsulation? -(Remember, the P for residue class rings is Ideal(R), not R and so it is an -externally defined domain much like the P for polynomial ring is List Symbol, -external to R.) +are not that much different. So in Aldor, you can choose whichever you +like: encapsulating more structure into R, or separating the +residueClassRing construction (and I indicated that there is more +freedom of expression in Aldor). In the analogous example I gave, +there are many representations (different data structure, different +term ordering) for the polynomial ring, and it would be crazy to +encapsulate such structure into the coefficient domain R. Can you +tell me structurally, both in terms of mathematics and coding, any +difference between the polynomial ring example and the residue class +ring example? Why should one be treated differently than the other in +the matter of encapsulation? (Remember, the P for residue class rings +is Ideal(R), not R and so it is an externally defined domain much like +the P for polynomial ring is List Symbol, external to R.) > > (III) Now if R has several methods, then we must *rename* R using > > three different names in (II), even though R is still the same object @@ -44554,23 +29062,25 @@ ResidueClassRing. else IntegerMod(%,p); ---- -The only difference is you called the domain constructor by a uniform name (but -has to rename the ring R for each separate data structure for the residue class -ring S in making R into ModularComputation). -[Remark: it would be harder if you implement residue class ring more generally, -using ideals insteads of numbers, but I am going along with your version for -now.] +The only difference is you called the domain constructor by a uniform +name (but has to rename the ring R for each separate data structure +for the residue class ring S in making R into ModularComputation). + +[Remark: it would be harder if you implement residue class ring more +generally, using ideals insteads of numbers, but I am going along with +your version for now.] -But as a style of programming, I would not inline the two segments of code as -above (the then-part and the else-part will be separated by many lines of code). -So in the end, one would still separately have two constructors (notice that if -not inlined, two names are used: ZechPrimeField and IntegerMod, and -ResidueClassRingForInteger, or residueClassRing are both wrappers, in addition -to the extra level ModularComputation wrapper). What I am saying is, this extra -wrapped level ("push" direction) is not necessary in Aldor (just as wrapping a -function with dependent signature into a package is not necessary in Aldor, but -in Axiom, that is the unavoidable "lift" direction.) +But as a style of programming, I would not inline the two segments of +code as above (the then-part and the else-part will be separated by +many lines of code). So in the end, one would still separately have +two constructors (notice that if not inlined, two names are used: +ZechPrimeField and IntegerMod, and ResidueClassRingForInteger, or +residueClassRing are both wrappers, in addition to the extra level +ModularComputation wrapper). What I am saying is, this extra wrapped +level ("push" direction) is not necessary in Aldor (just as wrapping a +function with dependent signature into a package is not necessary in +Aldor, but in Axiom, that is the unavoidable "lift" direction.) > If for a given situation we need more information than just what R:A @@ -44586,35 +29096,40 @@ in Axiom, that is the unavoidable "lift" direction.) > an elegant solution. You may have missed my point. By creating more categories, such as -ModularComputation or ModularComputation2, you REQUIRE the domain R to be -declared as such in any actual computation. If R is a new domain, fine. If R -already exists, this has to be wrapped into new domains, using new names. But in -any case, R is now tied to the residueClassRing map that makes it a -ModularComputation domain, its identity as the original commutative ring is -suppressed, and R splits into many versions depending on the way -residueClassRing is implemented. - -I would much prefer that the new names refer to the methods to construct -residueClassRing, than to tie it to the ring R, because one method may work for -many R, and yet your ModularComputation works only for ONE R. An example would -be when R is a polynomial ring over some field k. We can construct residue class -rings uniformly not just for prime polynomial ideals, but for all coefficient -field and for all choices of indeterminates. In your set up, each would need a -separate residueClassRing map. Unless convinced otherwise, I think overloading -(or polymorphic) is best used for operations and not domain constructions. - -There is a big difference between mathematics objects and computation objects. -In mathematics, one may argue that all the residue class rings are part of the -ring R (each residue class ring is uniquely defined). So there is still just one -mathematical object when all its residue class rings are included. -Computationally, however, one has to consider both data structure representation -of the residue class rings AND the algorithmic aspect of operations and other -problem solving techniques for the residue class rings. We cannot lump all these -into the same domain R. Each must be separately identified. That is the reason -for so many polynomial categories, even for a fixed coefficient domain and a -fixed set of variables. Pushing these domain constructors into the level of a -function (with dependent signature) may look neat, but it does not eliminate the -bifurcation in computation objects. +ModularComputation or ModularComputation2, you REQUIRE the domain R to +be declared as such in any actual computation. If R is a new domain, +fine. If R already exists, this has to be wrapped into new domains, +using new names. But in any case, R is now tied to the +residueClassRing map that makes it a ModularComputation domain, its +identity as the original commutative ring is suppressed, and R splits +into many versions depending on the way residueClassRing is +implemented. + +I would much prefer that the new names refer to the methods to +construct residueClassRing, than to tie it to the ring R, because one +method may work for many R, and yet your ModularComputation works only +for ONE R. An example would be when R is a polynomial ring over some +field k. We can construct residue class rings uniformly not just for +prime polynomial ideals, but for all coefficient field and for all +choices of indeterminates. In your set up, each would need a separate +residueClassRing map. Unless convinced otherwise, I think overloading +(or polymorphic) is best used for operations and not domain +constructions. + +There is a big difference between mathematics objects and computation +objects. In mathematics, one may argue that all the residue class +rings are part of the ring R (each residue class ring is uniquely +defined). So there is still just one mathematical object when all its +residue class rings are included. Computationally, however, one has +to consider both data structure representation of the residue class +rings AND the algorithmic aspect of operations and other problem +solving techniques for the residue class rings. We cannot lump all +these into the same domain R. Each must be separately identified. That +is the reason for so many polynomial categories, even for a fixed +coefficient domain and a fixed set of variables. Pushing these domain +constructors into the level of a function (with dependent signature) +may look neat, but it does not eliminate the bifurcation in +computation objects. > > > (IV) The "advantage" at first glance, seems to be operator @@ -44633,12 +29148,13 @@ bifurcation in computation objects. > function is what allows one to communicate the structure of the algebra > by *using the structure itself*. I'll say more below. -If you treat creating more abstract categories when it is not absolutely needed -and hiding the existence of the residue class rings as *using the structure -itself*, then I do not agree. But if what you are trying to do is an initial -step towards the idea of sheaves, that is different and in that case, perhaps -you should start with the category of sheaves. -> +If you treat creating more abstract categories when it is not +absolutely needed and hiding the existence of the residue class rings +as *using the structure itself*, then I do not agree. But if what you +are trying to do is an initial step towards the idea of sheaves, that +is different and in that case, perhaps you should start with the +category of sheaves. + > > The power of that construction in Aldor, as I pointed out in another > > email, is allowing such dependence in functions on the SOURCE side, > > not on the TARGET side of the map. In short notation: @@ -44660,8 +29176,8 @@ you should start with the category of sheaves. > the only dependence is in the type of the result. I find this > interpretation quite satisfying. -This is indeed a nice way to define recursively the signatures, but I won't call -these "functions". +This is indeed a nice way to define recursively the signatures, but I +won't call these "functions". > Your comments on `lifting' the aldor example is perfect in that this > is the probably the best way to write such things in axiom today. I'll @@ -44702,13 +29218,13 @@ these "functions". > -- either code which uses Foo needs to provide an answer, or a user > typing into the interpreter. -Well, I was only using the "if R has IntegerCategory" because you defined a -default implementation (which actually does not work for all R:IntegerCategory). -The Axiom implementation allows you to put ANY RESCLASS domain for the parameter -S and there is no need for "if R has ...". In Axiom, I am not aware of any -default construction for domains (all constructions are "equal opportunity" -employed), only default implementation for operations (for example ** in -monoid). +Well, I was only using the "if R has IntegerCategory" because you +defined a default implementation (which actually does not work for all +R:IntegerCategory). The Axiom implementation allows you to put ANY +RESCLASS domain for the parameter S and there is no need for "if R has +...". In Axiom, I am not aware of any default construction for +domains (all constructions are "equal opportunity" employed), only +default implementation for operations (for example ** in monoid). > The crux issue in my mind is that the aldor example illustrates how > one can encapsulate questions like `if R has ..' into the structure of @@ -44719,33 +29235,36 @@ monoid). > example, as questions regarding it are not raised ( clearly for given > R and p there *is* a relationship to S:C(R,p). -There is only syntactical difference and not semantical. The S in the Foo -package is only a symbol needed to do a package call. It is the equivalent to -the symbol method(p) (or residueClassRing(p)) to make the same package call. In -either case, the actual knowledge of S or method(p) is not needed, only the -categorical properties as defined in C(R,p) are. In Aldor, you need to use -method(p) and in Axiom, you need to use S, both for package call. If you hide S -(as given above), you hardwired S into R and make it less convenient to change -S. - -I fail to see the connection between this hiding and the "if R has ..." and I -already commented on that. You are correct that SOME "if R has ..." may be -eliminated by the signatures F(a:A, b:B(a), c:C(a,b)):D(a,b,c) (recall that I -proposed the converse to implement these signatures in Axiom *using* "if R has -...". In other words, "if R has ..." is more general (or powerful) construct -than the signatures. Even if (in 30 years?) Axiom or Aldor is integrated with -theorem proving, there will still be "if R has ..." that cannot be verified by -the theorem provers and need a mathematician to declare it (if only for -efficiency). To quote a cliche: who is going to prove the theorem-provers? +There is only syntactical difference and not semantical. The S in the +Foo package is only a symbol needed to do a package call. It is the +equivalent to the symbol method(p) (or residueClassRing(p)) to make +the same package call. In either case, the actual knowledge of S or +method(p) is not needed, only the categorical properties as defined in +C(R,p) are. In Aldor, you need to use method(p) and in Axiom, you need +to use S, both for package call. If you hide S (as given above), you +hardwired S into R and make it less convenient to change S. + +I fail to see the connection between this hiding and the "if R has +..." and I already commented on that. You are correct that SOME "if R +has ..." may be eliminated by the signatures F(a:A, b:B(a), +c:C(a,b)):D(a,b,c) (recall that I proposed the converse to implement +these signatures in Axiom *using* "if R has ...". In other words, "if +R has ..." is more general (or powerful) construct than the +signatures. Even if (in 30 years?) Axiom or Aldor is integrated with +theorem proving, there will still be "if R has ..." that cannot be +verified by the theorem provers and need a mathematician to declare it +(if only for efficiency). To quote a cliche: who is going to prove the +theorem-provers? > But this relationship > is expressed in code at the domain level, where it `belongs'. The > domains are just implementing the requirements of their exports). -Absolutely. That's what Axiom (and Aldor) both do. What's the difference? -You push construction of domains (residue class rings) to the function level -(like hidden domains within a domain, second class citizen?). Surely, you don't -think residue class rings do not deserve their own domain? +Absolutely. That's what Axiom (and Aldor) both do. What's the +difference? You push construction of domains (residue class rings) to +the function level (like hidden domains within a domain, second class +citizen?). Surely, you don't think residue class rings do not deserve +their own domain? > There are other reasons to consider dependent types in a function > target. If we are interested in future integration with a proof engine @@ -44753,57 +29272,28 @@ think residue class rings do not deserve their own domain? > play in such a setting. Some of the leading proof assistants, like > LEGO and COQ, make explicit use of dependent type information. -I don't argue against the usefulness of dependent types. Surely, they are more -convenient to use, but that does not mean they must be used. I do not totally -object to your construction of ModularComputation. In Axiom, there is at least -one example similar: EuclideanDomain, where we absorb the Euclidean algorithm as -part of the domain. But there is a difference, the functions that are added do -not construct domains, they only implement algorithms. So this is "pushing" -packages into new domains, while your example is "pushing" domains to functions. -Maybe someone will pick up this discussion and explore all the pushing and -lifting possible among categories, domains, packages and "functions" and -determine some general guidelines of what should be done under what -circumstances. That might be a good master thesis. - -This discussion started with whether Axiom can simulate dependent signature and -I believe you now agree that it can. - -William +I don't argue against the usefulness of dependent types. Surely, they +are more convenient to use, but that does not mean they must be +used. I do not totally object to your construction of +ModularComputation. In Axiom, there is at least one example similar: +EuclideanDomain, where we absorb the Euclidean algorithm as part of +the domain. But there is a difference, the functions that are added do +not construct domains, they only implement algorithms. So this is +"pushing" packages into new domains, while your example is "pushing" +domains to functions. Maybe someone will pick up this discussion and +explore all the pushing and lifting possible among categories, +domains, packages and "functions" and determine some general +guidelines of what should be done under what circumstances. That might +be a good master thesis. +This discussion started with whether Axiom can simulate dependent +signature and I believe you now agree that it can. - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/18AxiomDomainsAndAldorReturnTypes#msg20050117212843-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqkc8-0000eP-Ld - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:05:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqkc6-0000dp-1v - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:05:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqkc4-0000dU-Qz - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:05:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqkZB-0008Hx-J3 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:02:05 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqjzG-0000ut-BF - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:24:58 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I3OfKe012463; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:24:41 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:24:41 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:24:41 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#17 algebra BOOTSTRAP fixed point] Integer - substitutions +Subject: [#17 algebra BOOTSTRAP fixed point] Integer substitutions > ... >PRIMELT @@ -44837,106 +29327,10 @@ in what sense is it incorrect. Can you give an example that might apply the other 1% of the time? Do you mean because the magnitude could exceed fixnum? - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/17AlgebraBOOTSTRAPFixedPoint#msg20050117212441-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqkcu-0000sS-V5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:05:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqkch-0000mZ-Tl - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:05:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqkcf-0000mC-5H - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:05:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqkYz-0008Hx-Jn - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:01:53 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqk7A-0001Jm-0n - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:33:08 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I3WrKe023695; 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There was a restriction in a compression program that would not @@ -45041,36 +29406,11 @@ released so I was the only person who ever saw it. Sorry for the long delay in reply. It appears that I was automatically unsubscribed from the axiom mailing lists for the last 4 days. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cql6b-0001cQ-QY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:36:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cql4c-0000w8-Kg - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:34:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cql4I-0000lw-UF - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:34:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cql4I-0000l2-QV - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:34:14 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqkqA-0005Ba-RM - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:19:39 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4JOKe023335; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:19:24 -0600 +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:19:24 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:19:24 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#12 radicalSolve fails to find all roots ?] - Original question +Subject: [#12 radicalSolve fails to find all roots ?] Original question .................................................................... @@ -45150,36 +29490,10 @@ and the problem exists for 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19 etc [19,1] <-- not good [20,20] - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/12RadicalSolveFailsToFindAllRoots#msg20050117221923-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cql6m-0001fa-4O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:36:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cql6f-0001dY-Qg - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:36:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cql4M-0000o0-0Y - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:34:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cql4L-0000l2-9g - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:34:17 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqkm1-0004mb-1f - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:15:21 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4F5Ke017292; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:15:05 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:15:05 -0600 From: MathAction (Bob McElrath) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:15:05 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#12 radicalSolve fails to find all roots ?] (new) anonymous [MathAction] wrote: @@ -45214,36 +29528,10 @@ indicating that the assumption was made. An even better algorithm would print a message, then keep that assumption for the remainder of the calculation... - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/12RadicalSolveFailsToFindAllRoots#msg20050118041514.GA30214@mcelrath.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cql6s-0001iW-1W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:36:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cql6q-0001gi-5S - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:36:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cql4M-0000mI-4B - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:34:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cql4J-0000l2-3X - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:34:15 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqkp0-00055U-RX - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:18:27 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4ICKe021416; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:18:12 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:18:12 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:18:12 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#19 D(0^z, z) fails] (new) -> D(0^z, z) @@ -45253,37 +29541,10 @@ Subject: [#19 D(0^z, z) fails] (new) Of cause, 0 is expected. - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/19D0ZZFails#msg20050117221812-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTS-0006Pf-Mz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTG-0006Jo-Gs - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTA-0006Cq-Du - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:59:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlTA-0006Cn-As - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:59:56 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqkyA-00063P-8x - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:27:54 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4RaKe001986; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:27:36 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:27:36 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:27:36 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#20 D(1, z) fails] (new) AXIOM BUG: D(1, z) @@ -45355,38 +29616,10 @@ BUT Perhaps you should use "@" to indicate the required return type, or "$" to specify which version of the function you need. - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/20D1ZFails#msg20050117222735-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlUN-0006mT-Q8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlUL-0006lp-9W - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlUK-0006lK-5t - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlTo-0006Cn-4M - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:36 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqkvu-0005qo-RZ - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:25:35 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (203.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.203]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0I4PTE07915; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:25:29 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0I55rk02762; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:05:53 -0500 +\start Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:05:53 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Vladimir Bondarenko -Cc: list Subject: .daase extensin Vladimir, @@ -45407,34 +29640,10 @@ interpreter couldn't get there from here. The coercion/conversion tower in the interpreter is not well defined and sometimes it needs help. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlUT-0006nl-Hw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlUP-0006n7-Ly - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlUN-0006mV-Qv - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlTn-0006Cn-OJ - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:35 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqlHt-0007jb-QV - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:48:17 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4m2Ke030085; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:48:02 -0600 +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:48:02 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:48:02 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#25 Axiom graphics from inside TeXmacs?] (new) On Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:41 AM you wrote: @@ -45464,59 +29673,13 @@ tm_axiom.c file from the CVS, modify it and compile as above. > Yes, exactly. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/25AxiomGraphicsFromInsideTeXmacs#msg20050117224801-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlUW-0006oi-33 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlUT-0006nj-90 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlUS-0006nO-3M - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlUQ-0006nB-El - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:15 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqlI8-0007mw-Bp - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:48:32 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4mHKe030418; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:48:17 -0600 + +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:48:17 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:48:17 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#12 radicalSolve fails to find all roots ?] - -??changed: --These are NOT bugs! But the following may be! Consider the equation z^n=1 for n --= 7: -- --(1) -> radicalSolve(z^7=2) -- -- (1) -- 7+-+ +---+7+-+ 2%pi 7+-+ 2%pi -- [z= \|2 , z= \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), -- 7 7 -- +---+7+-+ 4%pi 7+-+ 4%pi -- z= \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), -- 7 7 -- +---+7+-+ 6%pi 7+-+ 6%pi -- z= \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), -- 7 7 -- +---+7+-+ 8%pi 7+-+ 8%pi -- z= \|- 1 \|2 sin(----) + \|2 cos(----), -- 7 7 -- +---+7+-+ 10%pi 7+-+ 10%pi --[9 more lines...] These are NOT bugs! But the following may be! Consider the equation $z^n=1$ for $n=7$ \begin{axiom} @@ -45525,25 +29688,9 @@ radicalSolve(z^7=2) comments - Of course, these are correct solutions by Euler's Formula. A bit surprising that -radicalSolve invokes these for $z^7=2$ and not for $z^7=1$; when $n$ is 7, these - -??changed: --http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ConstructiblePolygon.html --http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TrigonometryAngles.html -- http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ConstructiblePolygon.html - -- http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TrigonometryAngles.html - -??changed: --p. 34). -- --n = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 --phi= 1 1 2 2 4 2 6 4 6 4 10 4 12 6 8 8 16 6 18 8 --bad= x x x x x x x --Vladimir's "not good" values are --n = 7 11 13 14 15 17 19 -p. 34):: + Of course, these are correct solutions by Euler's Formula. A bit +surprising that radicalSolve invokes these for $z^7=2$ and not for +$z^7=1$; when $n$ is 7, these n = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 phi= 1 1 2 2 4 2 6 4 6 4 10 4 12 6 8 8 16 6 18 8 @@ -45551,51 +29698,19 @@ p. 34):: Vladimir's "not good" values are n = 7 11 13 14 15 17 19 -??changed: --in terms of radicals and arithmetic operations. It did not find those for n = 15 --and 17 probably (I am guessing) because at the time of implementation, these -in terms of radicals and arithmetic operations. It did not find those for $n = 15$ -and $17$ probably (I am guessing) because at the time of implementation, these +in terms of radicals and arithmetic operations. It did not find those +for $n = 15$ and $17$ probably (I am guessing) because at the time of +implementation, these -??changed: --for n = 9, 18, the solutions are expressible in radicals only if radicals of for $n = 9, 18$, the solutions are expressible in radicals only if radicals of -??changed: --expansion for (-1)^(1/7) that Vladimir gave involves radicals of complex expansion for $(-1)^{1/7}$ that Vladimir gave involves radicals of complex -??changed: --is why I am surprised at the above result for z^7=2). -- --In other words, rather than viewing the answer for z^7=1 as a bug, we should --view the answers for z^7=2, z^7=3 (and may be even z^9=1, z^18=1) as bugs! is why I am surprised at the above result for $z^7=2$). In other words, rather than viewing the answer for $z^7=1$ as a bug, we should view the answers for $z^7=2$, $z^7=3$ (and may be even $z^9=1$, $z^{18}=1$) as bugs! -??changed: --(1) -> radicalSolve(z^9=1,z) -- -- (1) -- +------------+ -- | +---+ -- +------------+ +---+ +-+ |- \|- 3 - 1 -- | +---+ (\|- 1 \|3 - 1) 3|------------ -- |- \|- 3 - 1 \| 2 -- [z= 3|------------ , z= -------------------------------, -- \| 2 2 -- +------------+ -- | +---+ -- +---+ +-+ |- \|- 3 - 1 +----------+ -- (- \|- 1 \|3 - 1) 3|------------ | +---+ -- \| 2 |\|- 3 - 1 -- z= ---------------------------------, z= 3|---------- , -- 2 \| 2 -- +----------+ +----------+ -- | +---+ | +---+ --[60 more lines...] \begin{axiom} radicalSolve(z^9=1,z) radicalSolve(z^7=3) @@ -45603,53 +29718,8 @@ radicalSolve(z^7=1.) radicalSolve(z^6+z^5+z^4+z^3+z^2+z+1=0) \end{axiom} ---removed: ------------------- -- --Vladimir Bondarenko wrote: --> --> Hi *, --> --> Any comments are highly appreciated on the following stuff. --> Thank you in advance. --> --> ..................................................................... --> --> Obviously, all the roots of the equation z^7 = 1 can be expressed in --> radicals, and Mathematica can easily produce the explicit expressions --> in terms of radicals. --> --> Solve[z^7 == 1, z] --> --> {{z -> 1}, {z -> -(-1)^(1/7)}, {z -> (-1)^(2/7)}, {z -> -(-1)^(3/7)}, --> {{z -> {z -> (-1)^(4/7)}, {z -> -(-1)^(5/7)}, {z -> (-1)^(6/7)}} --[88 more lines...] - -??changed: --Obviously, all the roots of the equation z^7 = 1 can be expressed in Obviously, all the roots of the equation $z^7 = 1$ can be expressed in -??changed: --in terms of radicals. -- --Solve[z^7 == 1, z] -- --{{z -> 1}, {z -> -(-1)^(1/7)}, {z -> (-1)^(2/7)}, {z -> -(-1)^(3/7)}, --{{z -> {z -> (-1)^(4/7)}, {z -> -(-1)^(5/7)}, {z -> (-1)^(6/7)}} -- --To save the space, below the only example is given. -- --FunctionExpand[ComplexExpand[-(-1)^(1/7)]] -- --(1/2)*((1/3)*((1/2)*(-1 + I*Sqrt[7]) + ((-1 + I*Sqrt[3])*((1/2)*(-1 + --I*Sqrt[7]) + (1/2)*(-1 - I*Sqrt[7])*((1/2)*(-1 + I*Sqrt[3]) + --(1/4)*(-1 + I*Sqrt[3])^2)))/(2*(6 + (3/4)*(-1 + I*Sqrt[3])*(-1 + --I*Sqrt[7]) + (1/2)*(-1 - I*Sqrt[7])*(1 + (3/4)*(-1 + --I*Sqrt[3])^2))^(1/3)) + (1/4)*(-1 + I*Sqrt[3])^2*(6 + (3/4)*(-1 + --I*Sqrt[3])*(-1 + I*Sqrt[7]) + (1/2)*(-1 - I*Sqrt[7])*(1 + (3/4)*(-1 + --I*Sqrt[3])^2))^(1/3)) +(1/3)*((1/2)*(1 + I*Sqrt[7]) - ((-1 + --I*Sqrt[3])^2*((1/2)*(-1 -I*Sqrt[7]) + (1/2)*(-1 + --[23 more lines...] in terms of radicals:: Solve[z^7 == 1, z] @@ -45693,39 +29763,6 @@ According to the AXIOM Book-- terms of radicals. -??changed: ---> radicalSolve(z^7=1, z) -- -- [z= 1] -\begin{axiom} -radicalSolve(z^7=1, z) -\end{axiom} - -??changed: ---> for i in 1..20 repeat print([i,#radicalSolve(z^i=1,z)]) -- -- [1,1] -- [2,2] -- [3,3] -- [4,4] -- [5,5] -- [6,6] -- [7,1] <-- not good -- [8,8] -- [9,9] -- [10,10] -- [11,1] <-- not good -- [12,12] -- [13,1] <-- not good -- [14,2] <-- not good -- [15,7] <-- not good -- [16,16] -- [17,1] <-- not good --[4 more lines...] -\begin{axiom} -for i in 1..20 repeat print([i,#radicalSolve(z^i=1,z)]) -\end{axiom} - :: [1,1] @@ -45749,43 +29786,10 @@ for i in 1..20 repeat print([i,#radicalSolve(z^i=1,z)]) [19,1] <-- not good [20,20] - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/12RadicalSolveFailsToFindAllRoots#msg20050117224817-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlV5-00073m-GF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlV2-00073Q-Rd - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlV1-00072t-Ol - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:01:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlTl-0006Cn-Io - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:33 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqkyp-00066t-97 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:28:35 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4SKKe002966; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:20 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:20 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:20 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#20 D(1, z) fails] wrong arument types D(1,z) is not a valid type signature. Try @@ -45804,70 +29808,18 @@ interpreter couldn't get there from here. The coercion/conversion tower in the interpreter is not well defined and sometimes it needs help. -Tim - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/20D1ZFails#msg20050117222818-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlVW-0007Hw-6G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTc-0006Sc-66 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTG-0006HI-Rx - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlTE-0006Cn-7L - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:00 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqlAd-00073m-NV - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:40:47 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4eWKe019960; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:40:32 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:40:32 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:40:32 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#23 using exp as a symbol in ** ] property change Status: closed => open --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/23UsingExpAsASymbolIn#msg20050117224032-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlVV-0007Hh-Rd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTc-0006SY-58 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTG-0006JI-RY - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlTF-0006Cn-TE - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:01 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cql9B-0006xU-3Y - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:39:17 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4d2Ke017937; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:39:02 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:39:02 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:39:02 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#23 using exp as a symbol in ** ] (new) trigcat.spad @@ -45885,10 +29837,6 @@ etc The more such stuff I see, the better is my live experience, the more efficient is bug identification progress. -Much thanks! - -Vladimir - Sunday, January 16, 2005, 7:08:49 PM, you write: @@ -45927,74 +29875,19 @@ WS> --- >> protected-symbol-warn called with (NIL) >> - - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/23UsingExpAsASymbolIn#msg20050117223859-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlVa-0007LE-FU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlVY-0007Jw-SB - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlVX-0007Ir-B3 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlTl-0006Cn-E4 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:33 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqkz4-000687-5u - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:28:50 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4SZKe003675; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:35 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:35 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:28:35 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#20 D(1, z) fails] property change Status: open => closed --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/20D1ZFails#msg20050117222835-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlVe-0007Nr-Ei - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlVb-0007M2-AX - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTr-0006Zu-NX - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlTk-0006Cn-Gk - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:32 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cql0U-0006G0-CK - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:30:18 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4U3Ke005625; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:30:03 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:30:03 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:30:03 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#21 Staistics generated by )set message summary - on ?] (new) +Subject: [#21 Staistics generated by )set message summary on ?] (new) According to the Help for )set message summary on, Description: print statistics after computation. @@ -46006,39 +29899,11 @@ I tried several commands but each time see the same message, How to see "live" statistic message? Say, an example of commands it is generated with? - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/21StaisticsGeneratedBySetMessageSummaryOn#msg20050117223003-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlVj-0007RN-U7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTf-0006Sw-CI - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTG-0006Hp-SF - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlTE-0006Cn-Bw - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:00 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqlAS-00072v-L7 - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:40:36 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4eMKe019752; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:40:22 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:40:22 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:40:22 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#23 using exp as a symbol in ** ] prior post - information +Subject: [#23 using exp as a symbol in ** ] prior post information On the other hand, even though as Vladimir Bondareko reported: @@ -46191,37 +30056,10 @@ is related to this is not clear. Bug already existed in NAG version. So may be one of the known ones. - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/23UsingExpAsASymbolIn#msg20050117224021-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlVk-0007Ry-LH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlVg-0007PL-NT - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlVf-0007OV-H0 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlTj-0006Cn-Ik - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:31 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cql1j-0006NJ-LX - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:31:35 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4VKKe007308; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:31:20 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:31:20 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:31:20 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#22 Modification of axiom.input ?] (new) BM> Vladimir Bondarenko address@bogus.example.com wrote: @@ -46238,38 +30076,11 @@ encountered this problem there. However, one fine day I hope to use UNIX version, too, and I have already memorized your clarification. - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/22ModificationOfAxiomInput#msg20050117223120-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTg-0006UB-KX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTQ-0006NR-4m - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqlTE-0006FT-RX - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:00:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlTC-0006Cn-Rc - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:59:58 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqlCJ-0007Ae-VZ - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:42:32 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I4g7Ke022009; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:42:07 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:42:07 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:42:07 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#24 System error: Cannot take first of an empty - list] (new) +Subject: [#24 System error: Cannot take first of an empty list] (new) WS> Simpler: @@ -46381,45 +30192,12 @@ WS> Martin Rubey wrote: >> > >> > >> > Should this be considered as a bug or a feature? ->> > --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/24SystemErrorCannotTakeFirstOfAnEmptyList#msg20050117224207-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqlxd-000214-DP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:31:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqlxb-00020V-3D - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:31:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqlxa-00020F-Ap - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:31:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlxF-0001hg-P3 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:31:02 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqlPN-0008VB-DV - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:56:01 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 9DB806444C6; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:56:00 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id A967E64447A; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:55:57 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:55:57 -0500 + +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:55:56 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Vladimir Bondarenko -Subject: RE: AXIOM BUG: D: Error detected within library - code: Invalid argument -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:55:56 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list - -Vladimir! +Subject: RE: AXIOM BUG: D: Error detected within library code: Invalid argument (I presume that it is you.) @@ -46435,41 +30213,12 @@ Also, it would be very nice if you would identify yourself to the system by setting 'preferences' before issuing so many messages so that we can be sure who to 'blame'. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqlx1-0001qA-HV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:30:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqlwr-0001jK-DF - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:30:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqlwp-0001hz-07 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:30:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqlwo-0001hg-Qc - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:30:34 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqlk9-0001UW-Ph - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:17:29 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (203.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.203]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0I5HOE08313; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:17:24 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0I5vir02848; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:57:44 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:57:44 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Vladimir Bondarenko -Cc: list Subject: Axiom project goals, axiom testing -Vladimir, - The axiom project goals during the IBM years were basically to do research in computer algebra. There was no plan to commercialize scratchpad (as it was called at IBM). It was only after IBM took a @@ -46504,84 +30253,31 @@ totem pole". It's very similar to the way Linux is developed. Linus "owns" the code but there are "maintainers" who have areas of expertise. It appears that any large project must eventually reach this structure. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqm0e-0003Q0-Qm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:34:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqm0c-0003OM-Fn - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:34:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqm0b-0003NL-JJ - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:34:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqlxJ-0001hg-8N - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:31:05 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.131] (helo=out009.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqlMW-0008Fo-9I - for list; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:53:04 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.133.69]) by out009.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050118045303.UWLK24088.out009.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:53:03 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:53:17 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bill Page Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem - [162.83.133.69] at Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:53:03 -0600 -Cc: list - -Bill: I used netsh to reset the winsock catalog and rebooted. There seems to be a minor improvement but perhaps not because things are still "touch and go". -I updated the Sandbox MainPage and save it for you to see. It has 4 lines with -50 characters on each one. The 5th line has only 3 digits. That is the maximum -length I can upload (preview, save). Adding even one more digit, I'll get those -error messages. This is repeatable +/- one digit (that is, sometimes I can get 4 -digits but not 5 digits on the 5th line). +I updated the Sandbox MainPage and save it for you to see. It has 4 +lines with 50 characters on each one. The 5th line has only 3 +digits. That is the maximum length I can upload (preview, +save). Adding even one more digit, I'll get those error messages. This +is repeatable +/- one digit (that is, sometimes I can get 4 digits but +not 5 digits on the 5th line). So it seems to me more like a buffer limit problem somewhere. Of course, I just noticed that someone put up quite a number of new pages successfully, so it is most likely my side that has the problem. Thanks. -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqmSF-0004Fl-Qm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:03:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqmQF-0003cC-4Z - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:01:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqmQ5-0003Yi-CM - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:00:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqmQ5-0003Rq-5a - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:00:49 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqm1B-000374-6J - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:35:05 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (203.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.203]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0I5YxE19477; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:34:59 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0I6FO502876; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:15:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:15:24 -0500 From: Tim Daly -To: Bill Page, list - (Bill Page) -Cc: +To: Bill Page Subject: IssueTracker emails Bill, @@ -46618,34 +30314,10 @@ or quote the email somehow so it looks better. My apologies for the spam-like quality of this activity. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqmpE-0002GQ-Ea - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:26:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqmp5-0002Dl-G7 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:26:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqmp2-0002CF-Ty - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:26:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqmp2-0002Bq-Dt - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:26:36 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqmb6-00066N-9o - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:12:12 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I6BuKe016462; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:11:56 -0600 +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:11:56 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:11:56 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#28 GCL 2.6.5 on FC3] (new) \\Greetings! @@ -46675,35 +30347,11 @@ Subject: [#28 GCL 2.6.5 on FC3] (new) \\inclusion in any possible 2.6.6, and do something easy in CVS head for \\now. \\ --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/28GCL265OnFC3#msg20050118001156-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqmts-0002ab-Af - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:31:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqmpW-0002Lg-Tb - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:27:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqmpO-0002Ju-0V - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:27:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqmpM-0002Bq-Q4 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:26:57 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqmRz-0005Rk-O8 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:02:47 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I62WKe003360; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:32 -0600 + +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:32 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:32 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#27 Axiom on Windows GCL problems] (new) > @@ -46724,46 +30372,17 @@ Subject: [#27 Axiom on Windows GCL problems] (new) Linux used the single quotes, but I've changed in to -s for consistency in the proposed possible 2.6.6. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/27AxiomOnWindowsGCLProblems#msg20050118000231-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqmzG-0003wm-UN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:37:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqmzE-0003vV-GB - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:37:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqmzD-0003uU-9i - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:37:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqmpS-0002Bq-3Y - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:27:02 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqmPZ-0005Hu-R2 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:00:17 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I5xxKe032220; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:59:59 -0600 + +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:59:59 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:59:59 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: - [#26 Graphics in Solaris, patch 24, fixed!] (new) - +Subject: [#26 Graphics in Solaris, patch 24, fixed!] (new) Ok, I fixed it, although the fix is not elegant :-) - In int/lib/openpty.c add the #define shown below: - - #include "useproto.h" #include #include @@ -46788,37 +30407,12 @@ of the make. Anyhow, everything works now! --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/26GraphicsInSolarisPatch24Fixed#msg20050117235959-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqmzl-00047F-BD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:37:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqmzj-00046u-SD - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:37:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqmpO-0002IN-LD - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:27:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqmpJ-0002Bq-IT - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:26:53 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqmVg-0005jB-Hi - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:06:36 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I66KKe008687; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:06:20 -0600 + +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:06:20 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:06:20 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#27 Axiom on Windows GCL problems] confirmation - of fix +Subject: [#27 Axiom on Windows GCL problems] confirmation of fix > > Greetings! OK, how about @@ -46833,70 +30427,18 @@ Shouldn't this patch also apply to the linux version? (Some weird linux people might also use spaces in paths.) - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/27AxiomOnWindowsGCLProblems#msg20050118000620-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqmzl-000475-1s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:37:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqmzj-00046f-20 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:37:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqmpO-0002Im-Or - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:27:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqmpJ-0002Bq-0O - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:26:53 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqmVq-0005jk-EE - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:06:46 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I66VKe008903; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:06:31 -0600 +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:06:31 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:06:31 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#27 Axiom on Windows GCL problems] property - change +Subject: [#27 Axiom on Windows GCL problems] property change Status: open => closed --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/27AxiomOnWindowsGCLProblems#msg20050118000631-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqn1R-000571-LD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:39:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqn1H-00050Y-Ua - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:39:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqn1C-0004za-Fa - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:39:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqmpV-0002Bq-O5 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:27:05 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqmLo-00050M-3V - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:56:24 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I5u3Ke026726; - Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:56:03 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:56:03 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:56:03 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#9 )hist )write foo.input] additional comments > @@ -46949,226 +30491,13 @@ they think "Notepad compatibility" really is. > Thanks very much for the Windows version. > --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/9HistWriteFooInput#msg20050117235601-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnOs-0002sv-U2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnOk-0002qT-Da - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnOf-0002nC-R3 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqnOf-0002ll-Jq - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:25 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqn7J-0000RF-9L - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:45:29 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I6jDKe030408; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:45:13 -0600 -From: MathAction (Bill Page) -To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:45:13 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#12 radicalSolve fails to find all roots ?] - - -??changed: --Re: [Q] radicalSolve fails to find all roots ? --From: William Sit --Subject: Re: [Q] radicalSolve fails to find all roots ? --Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:31:52 -0500 ->From -- William Sit - -Subject -- Re: [Q] radicalSolve fails to find all roots ? - -Date -- Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:31:52 -0500 - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/12RadicalSolveFailsToFindAllRoots#msg20050118004513-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnP1-0002yc-Ub - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnOs-0002t1-V7 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnOh-0002ns-2G - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqnOg-0002ll-Gc - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:26 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqn4P-0000En-8X - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:42:29 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I6gBKe026053; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:42:11 -0600 -From: MathAction (Bill Page) -To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:42:11 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#20 D(1, z) fails] - - -??changed: --AXIOM BUG: D(1, z) --From: Vladimir Bondarenko --Subject: AXIOM BUG: D(1, z) --Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:35:49 +0200 ->From -- Vladimir Bondarenko -Subject -- AXIOM BUG: D(1, z) -Date -- Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:35:49 +0200 - -??changed: --..................................................................... -- --(94) -> D(sin(z)^2+cos(z)^2, z) -- -- (94) 0 -- --(98) -> D(simplify(sin(z)^2+cos(z)^2), z) -- -- (98) 0 -- -\begin{axiom} -D(sin(z)^2+cos(z)^2, z) -D(simplify(sin(z)^2+cos(z)^2), z) -\end{axiom} - -??changed: -- --(95) -> D(1, z) -- -- There are 5 exposed and 0 unexposed library operations named D -- having 2 argument(s) but none was determined to be applicable. -- Use HyperDoc Browse, or issue -- )display op D -- to learn more about the available operations. Perhaps -- package-calling the operation or using coercions on the arguments -- will allow you to apply the operation. -- -- Cannot find a definition or applicable library operation named D -- with argument type(s) -- PositiveInteger -- Variable z -- -- Perhaps you should use "@" to indicate the required return type, -- or "$" to specify which version of the function you need. -- --[28 more lines...] -\begin{axiom} -D(1, z) -D(cosh(z)^2-sinh(z)^2, z) -D(simplify(cosh(z)^2-sinh(z)^2), z) -\end{axiom} - -??changed: --D(1::Expression(Integer),z) ==> 0 -- -\begin{axiom} -D(1::Expression(Integer),z) -\end{axiom} - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/20D1ZFails#msg20050118004211-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnP0-0002xV-5R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnOr-0002sU-Ew - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnOh-0002pC-P5 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqnOh-0002ll-Iw - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:27 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqn0O-0008O5-2M - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:38:20 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I6c4Ke020191; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:38:04 -0600 -From: MathAction (Bill Page) -To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:38:04 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#19 D(0^z, z) fails] - - -??changed: ---> D(0^z, z) -\begin{axiom} -D(0^z, z) -\end{axiom} - -Produced:: - -??changed: --Of cause, 0 is expected. -- -- -- -Of course, 0 is expected. - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/19D0ZZFails#msg20050118003804-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnPO-00039V-Ku - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:04:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnP5-00030n-80 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnOx-0002vl-4E - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqnOw-0002ll-Dv - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:42 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqmvv-0007zS-Gr - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:33:43 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (203.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.203]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0I6XVE23259; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:33:31 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0I7Dpc02966; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:13:51 -0500 +\start Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:13:51 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) -Cc: list, Tim Daly Subject: Re: IssueTracker emails -Bill, - > Vladimir, Vladimir, I appreciate the fact that you've taken on the painful @@ -47202,41 +30531,10 @@ complete this task. ok. I'll fix that. -Tim - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnPP-0003A7-UP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:04:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnPN-000396-IT - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:04:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqnPM-00038k-Jl - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:04:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqnPC-0002ll-Vq - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:59 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqmjR-000724-Vp - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:20:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 8E9426444ED; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:20:49 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id B0E1364440A; 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Type: Void (3) -> --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/29ForIIn11RepeatprintSinIComplexFloat#msg20050118005453-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqoN0-0004xF-EA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:05:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqoKs-0004ev-0I - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:03:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqoKe-0004Z9-V1 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:03:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqoKc-0004TC-0I - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:03:18 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqniF-00041r-PS - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:23:40 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I7NMKe018238; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:23:22 -0600 +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:23:22 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:23:22 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#29 for i in 1..1 repeatprint(sin(i) :: Complex - Float)] - - -??changed: --> -> for i in 1..1 repeat print(sin(i) :: Complex Float) --> sin(1) +Subject: [#29 for i in 1..1 repeatprint(sin(i) :: Complex Float)] \begin{axiom} )set message autoload on @@ -47966,7 +31043,6 @@ Subject: [#29 for i in 1..1 repeatprint(sin(i) :: Complex for i in 1..1 repeat print(sin(i) :: Complex Float) \end{axiom} - Note that neither Float nor Complex is loaded in (1), only in (2). More surprisingly, UniversalSegment is also not loaded in (1). (it does not matter if the segment is 1..1 or 1..3). @@ -47976,43 +31052,6 @@ for i in 1..3 repeat print(sin(i)::Complex Float) for i in 1..3 repeat print(a:=sin(i)::Complex Float) \end{axiom} -++added: -\begin{axiom} - -??changed: -- --all give -- --0.8414709848 0789650665 -\end{axiom} - -all give:: - - 0.8414709848 0789650665 - -++added: -\begin{axiom} - -++added: -for i in 1..1 repeat (a:=sin(i); print(a::Complex Float)) -\end{axiom} - -Gives: - ---removed: -- --for i in 1..1 repeat (a:=sin(i); print(a::Complex Float)) -- --sin(1) - -??changed: --mathprint$Lisp -mathprint\$Lisp - -??changed: --may not be what the interpreter is doing: -- ----%Printest -)abbrev package PRINTEST Printest -Printest: T==C where - EXPR ==> Expression @@ -48043,65 +31082,11 @@ may not be what the interpreter is doing:: a:=sin(i::INT::Float::CF::EXPR CF)\$(EXPR CF) print(retract(a)\$(EXPR CF)@CF::OutputForm) -??changed: ------ --Start with a fresh session: --Note that neither Float nor Complex is loaded in (1), only in (2). More --surprisingly, UniversalSegment is also not loaded in (1). (it does not matter if --the segment is 1..1 or 1..3). -- --(1) -> for i in 1..3 repeat print(sin(i)::Complex Float) -- -- sin(1) -- sin(2) -- sin(3) -- Type: Void --(2) -> for i in 1..3 repeat print(a:=sin(i)::Complex Float) -- -- 0.8414709848 0789650665 -- 0.9092974268 256816954 -- 0.1411200080 598672221 + 0.3388131789 0172013563 E -20 %i -- Type: Void --(3) -> --[215 more lines...] - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/29ForIIn11RepeatprintSinIComplexFloat#msg20050118012322-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqot0-0007dx-1C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:38:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqosy-0007cz-2g - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:38:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqosw-0007bv-5b - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:38:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqosv-0007be-G5 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:38:45 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqofU-0002K2-Pn - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:24:53 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 2E885106849; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:24:51 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (ip70-154.crimea.com [212.110.154.70]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9211F106913; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:24:47 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] +\start Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:25:17 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: Bill Page -Cc: list -Subject: Clarification: IssueTracker? NO, - axiom-developer list, always. - -William, +Subject: Clarification: IssueTracker? NO, axiom-developer list, always. I believe there might be a misunderstanding. @@ -48145,12 +31130,6 @@ PB> many messages so that we can be sure who to 'blame'. What do you mean by 'preferences'? What URL(s) should I use to do it? - -Best wishes, - -Vladimir - - Tuesday, January 18, 2005, 6:55:56 AM, you write: PB> Vladimir! @@ -48172,52 +31151,11 @@ PB> many messages so that we can be sure who to 'blame'. PB> Regards, PB> Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqowa-00009N-65 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:42:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqowU-00007W-UD - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:42:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqowO-00005a-4t - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:42:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqowN-00005X-RX - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:42:20 -0500 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqoYg-0001GT-Da - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:17:51 -0500 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id - j0I8HdDh031651 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:17:39 -0800 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) id j0I8Hcp8031648; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:17:38 -0800 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:17:38 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: hyperdoc - Tim Daly, list - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - - <200501141806.j0EI6XW17216@localhost.localdomain> - <20050114224825.GD9951@mcelrath.org> - <16875.62307.78010.326351@seam101.local> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" -Cc: list, Tim Daly - - ---Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Martin Rubey [Martin Rubey] wrote: > Dear Bob, * @@ -48250,61 +31188,11 @@ Input to axiom (that is actually typed by humans) should always be something actually readable, such as latex or axiom's current input. Likewise, tex output should *always* be supported as well. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks - without knowledge, of things without parallel." -- Ambrose Bierce - - ---Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFB7MYijwioWRGe9K0RAoBPAKC20NIZZAOXX0353LUsjhdIERM/XQCfWQ6C -Q6F/onnHjLYNzSLRcCuBta0= -=1FT/ ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqpF3-00050r-NK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:01:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqpEy-0004yo-23 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:01:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqpEu-0004wT-M6 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:01:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqpEu-0004uu-Jc - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:01:28 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqoxp-0004Yq-T5 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:43:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 8AF9F64450E; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:43:49 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id AF16D64450A; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:43:47 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:43:47 -0500 +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:43:46 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Vladimir Bondarenko -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:43:46 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list -Subject: RE: Clarification: IssueTracker? NO, - axiom-developer list, alway s. - -Vladimir, +Subject: RE: Clarification: IssueTracker? NO, axiom-developer list, alway s. On January 18, 2005 3:25 AM you wrote: > @@ -48394,36 +31282,12 @@ page on MathAction, you should (but it is not absolutely necessary to) click on 'preferences' and then enter your name and email address. That way a record is kept of who created or changed the record. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqpdM-00046w-Ud - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:26:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqpdJ-00044s-1d - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:26:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqpdH-00044I-8J - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:26:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqpdG-00042f-Jl - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:26:38 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqpPn-0008NX-W3 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:12:44 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0I9AxXK278910; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:11:03 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:08:22 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: William Sit Subject: re: Mathaction edit/preview/save problem - <41EC197D.52DA7877@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -Cc: list, Bill Page +Cc: Bill Page William Sit writes: @@ -48436,45 +31300,11 @@ wait. In this case I usually press "stop" and do it again. Using the external editor I never had any problems whatsoever. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqphJ-0004kg-5X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:30:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqpdh-0004Bc-RX - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:27:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqpdV-0004AB-I5 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:26:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqpdT-00042f-JY - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:26:51 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqpK7-0007eP-Lu - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:06:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 4C1FB64443E; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:06:51 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id AD731644510; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:06:49 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:06:49 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: "'Tim Daly'" Tim Daly, - Bill Page -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit depende - ncies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:06:48 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list - -Tim, +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On January 17, 2005 10:31 PM you wrote: > @@ -48540,119 +31370,40 @@ all the *.NRLIB's and repeat the 'make'. I am still missing something somewhere. Is there some "missing link" that still connects the algebra/Makefile back to the inter/Makefile? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqqCw-0004je-Lu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:03:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqqCX-0004hn-8i - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:03:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqqCK-0004dk-Gc - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:03:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqqCI-0004YU-Um - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:02:51 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqprI-0003GG-Bm - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:41:08 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0I9egKe012221; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:40:42 -0600 +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:40:42 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:40:42 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [ArchUsage] -??changed: -- tla my-id "First Last <addy@host.com>" tla my-id "First Last " -??changed: -- work with Mark Murray <mark at grondar.org> work with Mark Murray -??changed: -- work with Chuck Miller <cfm at ms.unimelb.edu.au> work with Chuck Miller -??changed: -- work with Kostas Oikonomou <ko at research.att.com> work with Kostas Oikonomou -??changed: -- work with < Mike Thomas <mike.thomas at brisbane.paradigmgeo.com> work with Mike Thomas -??changed: -- work with Stephen Wilson <wilsons at multiboard.com> work with Stephen Wilson -??changed: -- work with Tim Daly Jr. <tim at tenkan.org> and -- Nate Daly <nate at tenkan.org> work with Tim Daly Jr. and Nate Daly -??changed: -- work with Jinzhong Niu <jniu at gc.cuny.edu> -- Xaiowei Xu <xuxw at yahoo.com> work with Jinzhong Niu Xaiowei Xu -??changed: --of this file to Tim Daly <Tim Daly> so your interactions can be of this file to Tim Daly so your interactions can be -??changed: -- tla my-id "First Last <addy@host.com>" tla my-id "First Last " --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/ArchUsage#msg20050118034042-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqqeB-0003nV-PS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:31:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqqe3-0003lR-C3 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:31:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqqdy-0003ju-RV - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:31:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqqcg-0003Cl-Fq - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:30:06 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqq5o-0005GU-W2 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:56:09 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0I9tuXK599218; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:55:59 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:53:19 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bob McElrath Subject: re: hyperdoc - <16870.33697.70664.137763@seam101.local> - <200501132042.j0DKgwU15602@localhost.localdomain> - <16871.41260.297585.690633@seam101.local> - - <200501141806.j0EI6XW17216@localhost.localdomain> - <20050114224825.GD9951@mcelrath.org> - <16875.62307.78010.326351@seam101.local> - <20050118081738.GA31276@mcelrath.org> -Cc: list Dear Bob, Bill, *, @@ -48696,40 +31447,11 @@ I'm happy as long as LaTeX is the default for documentation of the source code. I'm sorry I misunderstood. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqs2M-0000TI-VS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:00:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqs2D-0000PZ-5J - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:00:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqs2A-0000O7-JB - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:00:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqs29-0000Jq-TI - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:00:30 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqrqE-0003Oe-20 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:48:10 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (203.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.203]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0IBm7E24333; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:48:07 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0ICSN503464; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:28:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:28:23 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit depende - ncies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. > > Next we see the transition to compiling the non-BOOTSTRAP algebra. > > This is done in the interpsys image. It is also done in an image @@ -48850,40 +31572,11 @@ DATABASES -> NRLIBs -> FRESH DATABASES This is yet a third bootstrap issue. There are more but not with the algebra files. -Tim - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqsVI-0001Hy-8F - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:30:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqsVG-0001HM-2e - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:30:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqsVD-0001Gd-Mv - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:30:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqsVD-0001Fq-Ay - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:30:31 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqsFw-0007ET-DP - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:14:44 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (203.116.252.64.snet.net [64.252.116.203]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0ICEfE08816; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:14:41 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0ICt1703477; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:55:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:55:01 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit depende - ncies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. -Cc: list, Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Yet one other opportunity for speed optimization is available at build time.... @@ -48927,126 +31620,38 @@ So there is a faster Axiom coming in the future but the build complexity will be even greater. And Camm, I believe, is doing even more with type propagation which will improve things more. - -Tim - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqtRu-00030S-Eu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:31:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqtRs-0002zV-6F - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:31:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqtRp-0002yH-T8 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:31:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqtRo-0002xp-KZ - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:31:04 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqtFZ-0007hf-9W - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:18:25 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0IDHsKe019526; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:17:54 -0600 +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:17:54 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:17:54 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomDownload] - -??changed: -- * "Windows (exe) version 0.1.3":http://page.axiom-developer.org/axiom-windows-0.1.3.exe ${\bf \longleftarrow}$ ** Recommended Download** * "Windows (exe) version 0.1.4":http://page.axiom-developer.org/axiom-windows-0.1.4.exe ** new test version** - (20 Mb.) This version includes the additional C compiler (gcc) files needed - to ')compile' spad library files. It also corrects some problems relating to - installation of Axiom in paths containing spaces. The Axiom algebra files - have been optimized using a *fixedPoint* iteration procedure which ensures - consistency of the generated code in spite of the presence of cyclic - dependencies (mutual recursion). Optimization includes inline code generation - and greater use of type information. + (20 Mb.) This version includes the additional C compiler (gcc) + files needed to ')compile' spad library files. It also corrects + some problems relating to installation of Axiom in paths + containing spaces. The Axiom algebra files have been optimized + using a *fixedPoint* iteration procedure which ensures consistency + of the generated code in spite of the presence of cyclic + dependencies (mutual recursion). Optimization includes inline code + generation and greater use of type information. * "Windows (exe) version 0.1.3":http://page.axiom-developer.org/axiom-windows-0.1.3.exe ${\bf \longleftarrow}$ **Recommended Download** --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDownload#msg20050118071754-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqw4l-0006BP-Jy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:19:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqw4a-00066l-7a - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:19:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqw4X-00065h-Dd - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:19:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqw4X-000654-9e - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:19:13 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqvqE-00024V-R6 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:04:26 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0IG41Ke019365; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:04:02 -0600 +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:04:00 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:04:00 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomDownload] - -??changed: -- * "Windows (exe) version 0.1.4":http://page.axiom-developer.org/axiom-windows-0.1.4.exe ** new test version** * "Windows (exe) version 0.1.4":http://page.axiom-developer.org/axiom-windows-0.1.4.exe ${\bf \longleftarrow}$ **new test version** --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDownload#msg20050118100400-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqxlj-0007FW-NE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:07:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqxeG-0006OM-UD - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:00:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cqxe3-0006Hh-TU - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:00:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqxe2-0006Dh-89 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:59:58 -0500 -Received: from [204.101.243.11] (helo=lattice.dyns.cx) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CqxJg-0006Ze-RZ - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:38:57 -0500 -Received: from lattice.dyns.cx (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id - j0IHcsbt010478; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:38:54 -0500 -Received: (from steve@localhost) - by lattice.dyns.cx (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) id j0IHcsGs010477; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:38:54 -0500 +\start Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:38:54 -0500 From: Stephen Wilson To: Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit depende - ncies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. - <200501181228.j0ICSN503464@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list - -Tim, +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. I believe I understand the process by which optimized versions of the bootstrap files are produced. However, I think that many of the @@ -49092,43 +31697,11 @@ macros.lisp, see a previous email). My feeling is that somehow the new versions of these functions have been loaded into the image in the second pass. - -Sincerely, -Steve - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqyZ8-0005Uy-GV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqyYz-0005RB-Kc - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqyYt-0005M7-Dl - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqyYt-0005Lp-7l - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:43 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqyMm-0004n4-D8 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:46:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 0B79864445C; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:46:11 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id DAF58644453; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:46:09 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:46:09 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: "'Tim Daly'" Tim Daly -Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit depende - ncies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:46:08 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly +Subject: re: algebra Makefiles with explicit dependencies, bootstrap, fixed-points etc. On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:28 AM Tim Daly wrote: > ... @@ -49199,43 +31772,11 @@ Of have I still got this wrong? My understanding of how the compiler assigns and uses domain table offsets remains very unclear to me. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqyZJ-0005Zj-0d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:59:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqyZ9-0005VN-AB - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqyYv-0005NA-8m - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqyYu-0005Lp-B9 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:44 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqyJu-0004UF-6l - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:43:15 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id A7040644462; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:43:13 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id C81ED644460; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:43:11 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:43:11 -0500 +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:43:11 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: [MutualRecursion] (new) -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:43:11 -0500 - charset="utf-8" -Cc: "Axiom-Developer \(E-mail\)" - -Ralf, On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:22 PM you wrote: > @@ -49394,56 +31935,17 @@ new Axiom commands and LaTeX mathematics. > > parity(8)$Odd > > parity(-1111)$Odd > > \end{axiom} -> > -> > -- -> > forwarded from -> -http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/MutualRecursion#msg200501172 -15511-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqzhI-0007Ed-CS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:11:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqzhF-0007Ci-HT - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:11:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CqzgO-0006qi-Vo - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:10:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqzgH-0006dc-4z - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:10:25 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cqz4t-0000dK-1B - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:31:47 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0IJVPKe014039; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:31:27 -0600 + +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:31:25 -0600 From: MathAction (billpage) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:31:25 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomDownload] - -??changed: -- * "Windows (exe) version 0.1.4":http://page.axiom-developer.org/axiom-windows-0.1.4.exe ${\bf \longleftarrow}$ **new test version** -- -- (20 Mb.) This version includes the additional C compiler (gcc) files needed * "Windows (exe) version 0.1.4":http://page.axiom-developer.org/axiom-windows-0.1.4.exe ${\bf \longleftarrow}$ **Recommended Download** (49 Mb.) This version includes the additional C compiler (gcc) files needed -??changed: -- consistency of the generated code in spite of the presence of cyclic -- dependencies (mutual recursion). Optimization includes inline code generation -- and greater use of type information. -- -- * "Windows (exe) version 0.1.3":http://page.axiom-developer.org/axiom-windows-0.1.3.exe ${\bf \longleftarrow}$ **Recommended Download** consistency of the generated code in the presence of cyclic dependencies (mutual recursion). Optimizations include inline code generation for special cases and greater use of type information. @@ -49457,43 +31959,12 @@ Subject: [AxiomDownload] * "Windows (exe) version 0.1.3":http://page.axiom-developer.org/axiom-windows-0.1.3.exe --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDownload#msg20050118133125-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr0ab-0003ZO-Dc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:08:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr0aZ-0003Z7-5M - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:08:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr0YX-00037X-41 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:06:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr0YT-00033Q-N1 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:06:25 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr055-00060R-In - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:36:03 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0IKZgKe005587; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:35:43 -0600 +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:35:41 -0600 From: MathAction (billpage) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:35:41 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [MutualRecursion] - -??changed: --Here is an example of defining functions by mutual recursion in Axiom -- --We start with a "bootstrap" definition of 'parity(n)\$Even'. All that is --really needed here is a package that exports a function named 'parity' Here we give two examples of defining functions by mutual recursion in Axiom Recursion between Separate Domains @@ -49590,48 +32061,11 @@ Odd(8)$Parity Odd(-1111)$Parity \end{axiom} - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/MutualRecursion#msg20050118143541-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr0Yk-0003ET-P3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:06:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr0YV-00039G-MK - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:06:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr0YP-000342-F8 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:06:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr0YO-00033Q-U5 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:06:20 -0500 -Received: from [212.250.162.8] (helo=mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr0Il-0007IO-Ng - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:50:12 -0500 -Received: from aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) - by mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20050118205010.RRLI15380.mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com>; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:50:10 +0000 -Received: from obscurity.demon.co.uk ([80.3.52.230]) - by aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20050118205009.NGLR769.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@obscurity.demon.co.uk>; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:50:09 +0000 -Received: from obscurity.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by obscurity.demon.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id - j0IKoTAm007505; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:50:31 GMT -Received: (from pab@localhost) - by obscurity.demon.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0IKoTaS007504; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:50:29 GMT - Peter Broadbery using -f -Subject: RE: [MutualRecursion] (new) +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:50:27 +0000 From: Peter Broadbery To: Bill Page -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:50:27 +0000 -Cc: "Axiom-Developer \(E-mail\)" +Subject: RE: [MutualRecursion] (new) On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 13:43 -0500, Page, Bill wrote: > Ralf, @@ -49727,42 +32161,11 @@ extended. All over - try OutputForm as an example. -Peter - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr2ZY-00023G-H7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:15:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr2Ss-00011H-Nu - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:08:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr2SU-0000tb-Hf - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:08:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr2ST-0000pw-R3 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:08:21 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr23b-0007Mj-2X - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:42:40 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id 3D32D64448A; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:42:38 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.77]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP - id C687964447F; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:42:36 -0500 (EST) -Received: by CORPORATEEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) - id ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:42:36 -0500 +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:42:35 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Peter Broadbery Subject: RE: [MutualRecursion] (new) -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:42:35 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: "Axiom-Developer \(E-mail\)" On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:50 PM Peter Broadbery wrote: > ... @@ -49877,76 +32280,10 @@ So then it is remarkable is it not, that it is possible at all to compile this whole tangled mess of code into a (mostly) consistent computer algebra system? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr2oo-0007vy-O8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:31:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr2oe-0007sX-W5 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:31:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr2oa-0007oY-OW - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:31:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr2oa-0007nc-IT - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:31:12 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr2bk-0001tR-9u - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:17:56 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0INHfKe001502; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:17:41 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:17:41 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [FrontPage] - - -??changed: --- Try "Axiom online":AxiomInterface or "download Axiom":AxiomDownload. Chose an -- optional [User Interface] such as TeXmacs or Emacs -- Try "Axiom online":AxiomInterface, "download Axiom":AxiomDownload or - [build Axiom] from source code - -- Chose an optional [User Interface] such as TeXmacs or Emacs - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage#msg20050118171741-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr2qD-0008OZ-9Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:32:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr2q8-0008NU-U1 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:32:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr2q8-0008NC-9X - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:32:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr2p8-0007nc-Tw - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:31:47 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr2J9-0000Sb-QY - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:58:43 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0IMwMKe005667; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:58:22 -0600 -From: MathAction (Billinghurst, - David (CALCRTS)) -To: MathAction Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:58:22 -0600 -Cc: +From: MathAction (Billinghurst, David (CALCRTS)) +To: MathAction Subject: [Axiom-mail] Building axiom on windows I would like to try and build axiom under windows/mingw. I already know how to: @@ -49956,48 +32293,10 @@ I would like to try and build axiom under windows/mingw. I already know how to: Can someone point me to the latest set of instructions. I have googled around and am quite confused. - David - - -NOTICE -This e-mail and any attachments are private and confidential and may contain privileged information. 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It provides a hand picked set of tools to allow a typical configuration script with Bourne syntax to execute. This allows most of the GNU packages to create a Makefile just from executing the typical configure script which can then be used to build the package using the native MinGW version of GCC. - MSYS was created out of a long-lived desire to provide the MinGW community a Minimal !SYStem, with which a configure script could be executed. MSYS or Minimal !SYStem is a POSIX and Bourne shell environment use with MinGW. It provides a hand picked set of tools to allow a typical configuration script with Bourne syntax to execute. This allows most of the GNU packages to create a Makefile just from executing the typical configure script which can then be used to build the package using the native MinGW version of GCC. + MSYS was created out of a long-lived desire to provide the MinGW + community a Minimal !SYStem, with which a configure script could be + executed. MSYS or Minimal !SYStem is a POSIX and Bourne shell + environment use with MinGW. It provides a hand picked set of tools + to allow a typical configuration script with Bourne syntax to + execute. 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It compiles and links code to be run on Win32 platforms... providing C, C++ and Fortran compilers plus other related tools. If you see references to "mingw32" instead of "MinGW", they are referring to the same compiler system. The project's name changed from mingw32 to MinGW is to prevent the implication that MinGW will only works on 32 bit systems (as 64 and higher bit machines become more common, MinGW will evolve to work with them). MinGW uses the Microsoft runtime libraries, distributed with the Windows operating system. Unlike other ports of GCC to Windows, the runtime libraries are not distributed using Gnu's General Public License (GPL). You, therefore, do not have to distribute your source code with your programs unless, of course, you use a GPL library in your programs. + MinGW ("Minimalistic GNU for Windows") refers to a set of runtime + headers, used in building a compiler system based on the GNU GCC and + binutils projects. It compiles and links code to be run on Win32 + platforms... providing C, C++ and Fortran compilers plus other + related tools. If you see references to "mingw32" instead of + "MinGW", they are referring to the same compiler system. The + project's name changed from mingw32 to MinGW is to prevent the + implication that MinGW will only works on 32 bit systems (as 64 and + higher bit machines become more common, MinGW will evolve to work + with them). MinGW uses the Microsoft runtime libraries, distributed + with the Windows operating system. Unlike other ports of GCC to + Windows, the runtime libraries are not distributed using Gnu's + General Public License (GPL). You, therefore, do not have to + distribute your source code with your programs unless, of course, + you use a GPL library in your programs. What is MSYS? - MSYS or Minimal SYStem is a POSIX and Bourne shell environment use with MinGW. It provides a hand picked set of tools to allow a typical configuration script with Bourne syntax to execute. This allows most of the GNU packages to create a Makefile just from executing the typical configure script which can then be used to build the package using the native MinGW version of GCC. + MSYS or Minimal SYStem is a POSIX and Bourne shell environment use + with MinGW. It provides a hand picked set of tools to allow a + typical configuration script with Bourne syntax to execute. This + allows most of the GNU packages to create a Makefile just from + executing the typical configure script which can then be used to + build the package using the native MinGW version of GCC. -The POSIX layer used by MSYS is a fork of the 1.3.3 version of Cygwin . Cygwin is a full POSIX layer and UNIX-like environment for Win32 providing both server and client utilites. +The POSIX layer used by MSYS is a fork of the 1.3.3 version of Cygwin +. 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The GCL team is happy to announce the release of version @@ -50655,37 +32742,10 @@ gcl (2.6.6-1) unstable; urgency=high For the latest information, capabilities, and status of GCL stable, please see http://www.gnu.org/software/gcl/RELEASE-2.6.2.html. --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr7rw-000738-Kv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:55:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr7ru-00072o-L3 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:54:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr7ru-00072N-1U - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:54:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr7rt-00071y-OX - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:54:57 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr7ek-0000eC-Fl - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:41:22 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0J4f7Ke027465; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:41:07 -0600 +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:41:07 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:41:07 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#32 Debian Sarge GCL configure parameters] (new) > > bft.h? or bfd? @@ -50715,42 +32775,12 @@ find the ./configure line and change the options to: and see if that cures it. - - - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/32DebianSargeGCLConfigureParameters#msg20050118224106-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr7sx-0007F3-71 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:56:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr7pP-0006iv-0D - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:52:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr7ov-0006Xi-Qp - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:52:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr7ou-0006XT-HI - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:51:52 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr7by-0000Nn-30 - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:38:30 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0J4cEKe023317; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:38:14 -0600 +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:38:14 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:38:14 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#31 Hyperdoc segfault] (new) - Actually this problem should be fixed in main--patch-24. @@ -50778,10 +32808,9 @@ Let me know if you get it to work. Ok, I updated and rebuilt (only what needed to be rebuilt). -The result is that I have hypertex, which appears to work. At least I can run the -"hypertex" -command, and I can browse, and the graphics work. (The mouse seems to be -over-accelerated, but that's a detail.) +The result is that I have hypertex, which appears to work. At least I +can run the "hypertex" command, and I can browse, and the graphics +work. (The mouse seems to be over-accelerated, but that's a detail.) However, @@ -50814,44 +32843,12 @@ bash-2.05$ sman -debug -noclef -nonag -noht '$AXIOM/bin/hypertex -s' -clefprog '' -sessionprog '$AXIOM/lib/session' -clientprog '$AXIOM/lib/spadclient' -rm Segmentation Fault (core dumped) bash-2.05$ --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/31HyperdocSegfault#msg20050118223805-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr7q7-0006pS-HA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:53:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr7pT-0006jf-NZ - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:52:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr7ow-0006Z7-Mk - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:52:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr7ow-0006XT-FF - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:51:54 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr7XX-0008N8-Jt - for list; 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My feeling is that somehow the new versions of these functions have been loaded into the image in the second pass. - - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/17AlgebraBOOTSTRAPFixedPoint#msg20050118230643-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8Xk-0000vQ-AF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:38:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8Qh-0008TF-GC - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:30:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8QV-0008Mt-52 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:30:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr8QU-0008JK-Uj - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:30:42 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr82H-0002Dl-K1 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:05:41 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0J55OKe028215; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:05:24 -0600 +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:05:24 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:05:24 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#17 algebra BOOTSTRAP fixed point] more questions On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:28 AM Tim Daly wrote: @@ -51228,35 +33108,11 @@ If there are cyclic dependencies among the bootstrap files Of have I still got this wrong? My understanding of how the compiler assigns and uses domain table offsets remains very unclear to me. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/17AlgebraBOOTSTRAPFixedPoint#msg20050118230523-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8Xm-0000vx-CR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:38:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8Xj-0000vI-Jk - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:38:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8Qh-0008Sv-IY - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:31:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr8Qe-0008JK-CD - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:30:52 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr7kh-0001Dk-Vq - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:47:32 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0J4lBKe003318; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:47:11 -0600 + +\start +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:47:11 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:47:11 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#33 GCL fails to compile on Fedora Core 3] (new) Has anyone gotten GCL to run on Fedora Core 3? @@ -51264,10 +33120,6 @@ Has anyone gotten GCL to run on Fedora Core 3? Tim ------- Start of forwarded message ------- -Subject: magnus and axiom questions -From: Chuck Miller -To: address@bogus.example.com -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:27:37 +1100 Hi Tim, @@ -51301,41 +33153,11 @@ So I am mystified as to how one can get gcl and axiom to compile. All help and suggestions welcome. - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/33GCLFailsToCompileOnFedoraCore3#msg20050118224711-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8Xs-0000yk-AZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:38:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8Qm-0008Vv-IA - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:31:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8Qa-0008Q0-CL - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:30:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr8QY-0008JK-VU - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:30:47 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.170.133] (helo=out010.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr7ox-0001Yf-9N - for list; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:51:55 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.84.163.225]) by out010.verizon.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP - id <20050119045153.OTCI24714.out010.verizon.net@cunyvm.cuny.edu>; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:51:53 -0600 +\start Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:51:47 -0500 From: William Sit To: Peter Broadbery Subject: Re: [MutualRecursion] (new) - <1106081428.4561.48.camel@obscurity.demon.co.uk> - [162.84.163.225] at Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:51:53 -0600 -Cc: "Axiom-Developer \(E-mail\)" - - Peter Broadbery wrote: @@ -51361,34 +33183,10 @@ print(typeOf(1)::OutputForm) This seems to be mutual recursion with no end, thus stack overflow. -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8wR-00009X-Gy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:03:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8pp-0007Pz-Fj - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:56:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Cr8pe-0007MC-6H - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:56:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cr8pd-0007Bp-1G - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:56:41 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr8Wg-0004e9-1C - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:37:06 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0J5agKe006165; - Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:36:43 -0600 +Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:36:42 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:36:42 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#34 Axiom missing rm, cat ] (new) Yes, this is a bug in the Windows version of Axiom caused @@ -51402,34 +33200,7 @@ installed some other package that contains it. Like you said, this would be ok if the location of Axiom was in a Path that did not contain any spaces. - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/34AxiomMissingRmCat#msg20050118233639-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrAHS-0004m0-In - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:29:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrAH8-0004ZS-Iz - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:29:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrAH4-0004Wi-AI - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:29:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrAH3-0004VY-T8 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:29:06 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CrA1H-0002GH-Qd - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:12:48 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id C247A10687A; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:12:46 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin131.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.131]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13AD106879 - for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:12:45 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] +\start Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:12:47 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list @@ -51473,41 +33244,11 @@ Any, maybe even a very cumbersome way? Much thanks for any help in advance. - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrAHs-0004zU-6L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:29:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrAHM-0004kp-OS - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:29:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrAHC-0004cQ-0J - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:29:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrAHB-0004VY-0U - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:29:13 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cr9tH-0001mx-4e - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:04:31 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id CA7EE106885; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:04:25 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin144.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.144]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9368C106884 - for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:04:24 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:04:25 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list -Subject: Bug in complexForm : complexForm(log(%i) - - log(-%i)) -> 0 +Subject: Bug in complexForm : complexForm(log(%i) - log(-%i)) -> 0 Hi *, @@ -51542,40 +33283,7 @@ Maxima 5.9.1> RECTFORM(LOG(%I) - LOG(-%I)); Much thanks for your comments in advance. - -Best wishes, - -Vladimir Bondarenko - -http://www.cybertester.com/ -http://maple.bug-list.org/ -http://www.CAS-testing.org/ - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrBdz-00014p-3v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:56:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrBdm-00010s-9q - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:56:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrBdd-0000z4-OW - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:56:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrBdc-0000wP-Po - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:56:28 -0500 -Received: from [213.179.225.33] (helo=mail.crimea.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CrBMI-0001gc-FY - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:38:34 -0500 -Received: by mail.crimea.com (Postfix, from userid 86) - id 6BE3A1068B4; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:38:33 +0200 (EET) -Received: from localhost (dialin139.max6.crimea.com [212.110.157.139]) - by mail.crimea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB991068B2 - for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:38:32 +0200 (EET) - virus records: 50658, updated: 8.06.2004] Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:38:34 +0200 From: Vladimir Bondarenko To: list @@ -51588,43 +33296,11 @@ AXIOM applications in any field (say, in math etc)? If not, any hints about at least scattered links, any? -Much thanks in advance. - - -Best, - -Vladimir - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrEKp-0002iZ-ST - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:49:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrEKj-0002gO-LN - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:49:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrEKi-0002es-5f - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:49:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrEKh-0002aS-SG - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:49:08 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.127] (helo=swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrE3T-0005kk-H9 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:31:23 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.117] (hemmecke@dragonfly.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.37.117]) - by swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - j0JBUmuM009904 - for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:30:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:30:48 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -CC: list +To: list Subject: Re: [MutualRecursion] (new) - <41EDE763.75A338DD@cunyvm.cuny.edu> One cannot do @@ -51695,36 +33371,12 @@ William Sit wrote: > print(typeOf(1)::OutputForm) > > This seems to be mutual recursion with no end, thus stack overflow. -> -> William - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrGaU-0004Vs-DJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:13:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrGaR-0004Ud-Mb - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:13:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrGaQ-0004U3-8B - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:13:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrGaP-0004Sb-Tb - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:13:30 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.27] (helo=imap.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CrGLq-0007pG-Dr - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:58:26 -0500 -Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0JDvxXK601842; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:58:02 +0100 -From: Martin Rubey Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:55:21 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Vladimir Bondarenko -Subject: Re: Bug in complexForm : complexForm(log(%i) - - log(-%i)) -> 0 -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Bug in complexForm : complexForm(log(%i) - log(-%i)) -> 0 Dear Vladimir, @@ -51790,41 +33442,11 @@ so the problem occurs if R does not have "RealNumberSystem": since Float does have RNS, but INT does not. I'm not quite sure what the condition should be. OrderedSet? -Martin - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrGgR-0006k4-NH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:19:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrGgL-0006gN-A6 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:19:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrGgK-0006fE-5b - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:19:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrGgK-0006f4-2q - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:19:36 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CrGSU-0000Ea-Fg - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:05:18 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (69.0.60.191.adsl.snet.net [69.0.60.191]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0JE5CE05915; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:05:12 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0JEjOF04665; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:45:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:45:24 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:30:48 +0100) Subject: Re: [MutualRecursion] (new) - <41EDE763.75A338DD@cunyvm.cuny.edu> <41EE44E8.9020909@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list The upside of axiom's interpreter is that it can help you decide what type and what functions might be applicable. In compiled code @@ -51835,40 +33457,11 @@ When I'm struggling with the compiler over a type issue I try to remember my thesis advisor constantly asking... "But what do you MEAN when you say that?". -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrGmx-0007i6-HM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:26:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrGmv-0007gd-56 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:26:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrGms-0007fC-MN - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:26:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrGms-0007f3-HW - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:26:22 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CrGas-0001U6-QV - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:13:58 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (69.0.60.191.adsl.snet.net [69.0.60.191]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0JEDuE12144; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:13:56 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0JEsBo04679; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:54:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:54:11 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey, Vladimir Bondarenko - on Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:55:21 +0100) -Subject: Re: Bug in complexForm : complexForm(log(%i) - - log(-%i)) -> 0 - <16878.33514.5635.67950@seam101.local> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Bug in complexForm : complexForm(log(%i) - log(-%i)) -> 0 Vladimir, Martin, Everyone, @@ -51890,36 +33483,11 @@ will lose these issues. I'm working my way back over the last two years of email to capture the outstanding bugs so I understand the pain. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHXL-0003ml-Jz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:14:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHXH-0003jm-8m - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:14:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHXF-0003iC-11 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:14:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrHXE-0003gJ-MH - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:14:16 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrHF8-00069B-2M - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:55:34 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0JEtGKe032288; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:55:16 -0600 +Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:55:16 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:55:16 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#6 wrong integration result] I think this is a - math bug! +Subject: [#6 wrong integration result] I think this is a math bug! I disagree. There is something fundamentally wrong here. The result of \begin{axiom} @@ -51934,108 +33502,28 @@ itself because it only works numerically and is of no use symbolically. It seems like there are two separate Gamma functions. The one produced by the integrage is "symbolic" but does not seem to be connected to any appropriate logic. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/6WrongIntegrationResult#msg20050119085451-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHXd-0003sV-Ne - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:14:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHXK-0003ls-Tx - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:14:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHXE-0003hd-RX - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:14:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrHXE-0003gJ-A8 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:14:16 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrHGE-0006JB-PI - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:56:42 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0JEuXKe001466; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:56:33 -0600 + +\start +Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:56:33 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:56:33 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#6 wrong integration result] I think this is a - math bug! +Subject: [#6 wrong integration result] I think this is a math bug! - -??changed: --by the integrage is "symbolic" but does not seem to be connected to by the integration is "symbolic" but does not seem to be connected to --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/6WrongIntegrationResult#msg20050119085633-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHcv-0005Ye-Ej - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:20:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHct-0005Xm-2l - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:20:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHcr-0005XD-C7 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:20:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrHXg-0003gJ-MS - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:14:44 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrGuo-0003YS-W2 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:34:35 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0JEYMKe003516; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:34:22 -0600 +\start +Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:34:22 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:34:22 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#6 wrong integration result] this is not a math - bug, only the output is not as nice as it could be +Subject: [#6 wrong integration result] this is not a math bug, only the output is not as nice as it could be Category: Axiom Mathematics => Axiom User Interface Severity: normal => minor --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/6WrongIntegrationResult#msg20050119083421-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHmn-0000q5-Dy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:30:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHml-0000o0-DZ - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:30:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrHmk-0000nC-QE - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:30:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrHmk-0000n7-N0 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:30:18 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.184] (helo=tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CrHYf-0001gr-L2 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:15:45 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.58]) by tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050119151543.MGAH1919.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus>; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:15:43 -0500 +\start +Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:16:02 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:16:02 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: nightly bug binge Tim, @@ -52078,49 +33566,13 @@ Bill Page. > > I'm off on my nightly bug-binge. Is there a way to turn off > message forwarding for a while? -> -> t -> -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrINC-0000ym-2m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIN3-0000wq-H5 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMr-0000qa-C1 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrIMm-0000bF-Eo - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:32 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrHhk-0002ke-SC - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:25:09 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0JFOrKe008466; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:24:53 -0600 +Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:24:53 -0600 From: MathAction (billpage) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:24:53 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#6 wrong integration result] - -++added: - - ->From BillPage Wed Jan 19 09:20:12 -0600 2005 -From: Bill Page -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:20:12 -0600 -Subject: this is not a mathbug, only the output is not as nice as it could be - > > Category: Axiom Mathematics => Axiom User Interface > Severity: normal => minor @@ -52136,105 +33588,28 @@ The issue is really what symbollic computations are possible in Axiom involving Gamma? I would say that this is more of a deficiency in the mathmatics. - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/6WrongIntegrationResult#msg20050119092453-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIOM-0001GL-EP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:09:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIOJ-0001FR-TW - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:09:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIOI-0001Ed-QL - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:09:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrIOI-0001E9-7M - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:09:06 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrIBP-00068m-IY - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:55:47 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0JFtOKe018619; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:55:24 -0600 +\start +Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:55:24 -0600 From: MathAction (billpage) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:55:24 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#37 )co aldor file does not work] property change Category: Axiom User Interface => Axiom Compiler --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/37CoAldorFileDoesNotWork#msg20050119095523-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIOn-0001SG-Ht - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:09:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIOl-0001RL-GI - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:09:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIOk-0001Qk-Gg - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:09:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrIMo-0000bF-9v - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:34 -0500 -Received: from [216.114.78.229] (helo=tenkan.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CrHfn-0002YI-Oz - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:23:07 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (69.0.60.191.adsl.snet.net [69.0.60.191]) - by tenkan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0JFN5E27619; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:23:05 -0600 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0JG3PM04746; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:03:25 -0500 +\start Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:03:25 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Cc: list, Tim Daly Subject: Re: nightly bug binge re: ZMI instructions. nope. got more than enough to do without selectively breaking mathaction. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMo-0000rG-2n - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMZ-0000io-TT - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMT-0000cM-6H - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrIMS-0000bF-SC - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:12 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CrI4z-0005Fk-R8 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:49:10 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.58]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050119154908.HKD1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus> - for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:49:08 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:49:31 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" +From: Bill Page +To: list Subject: IssueTracker property changes *, @@ -52257,38 +33632,11 @@ nicer anyway. This handling of PlainText a bug in issuetracker. I will submit a bug report and copy it to the ZWiki issuetracker. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIRi-00028F-0N - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:12:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMu-0000tp-3R - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMj-0000mR-0K - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrIMc-0000bF-Pk - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:22 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.93] (helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CrHmU-0003E2-KE - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:30:02 -0500 -Received: from Asus ([209.226.189.58]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP - id <20050119152959.BEV1694.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@Asus> - for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:29:59 -0500 -From: Bill Page -To: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:30:22 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: [FrontPage] this is not a mathbug, - only the output is not as nice as it could be +From: Bill Page +To: list +Subject: RE: [FrontPage] this is not a mathbug, only the output is not as nice as it could be *, @@ -52301,19 +33649,7 @@ that a user should have to do.) I think it is possible to configure the "dead letter" default page to be something other than FrontPage, I will look into this. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - > -----Original Message----- -> From: Bill Page [mailto:MathAction] -> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:20 AM -> To: MathAction -> Subject: [FrontPage] this is not a mathbug, only the output -> is not as nice as it could be -> -> > > > > Category: Axiom Mathematics => Axiom User Interface > > Severity: normal => minor @@ -52328,74 +33664,20 @@ Bill Page. > The issue is really what symbollic computations are > possible in Axiom involving Gamma? I would say that this > is more of a deficiency in the mathmatics. -> -> -- -> forwarded from -> http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage#msg0 -03d01c4fe3a$6c918190$6501a8c0@Asus - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIRi-00028M-8Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:12:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMu-0000to-3E - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMZ-0000fQ-2y - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrIMW-0000bF-3b - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:16 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrHxn-0004R9-PZ - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:41:43 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0JFfVKe031483; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:41:31 -0600 + +\start +Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:41:31 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:41:31 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#34 Axiom missing rm, cat ] property change Severity: normal => serious --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/34AxiomMissingRmCat#msg20050119094131-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIRi-00028h-E5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:12:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMu-0000tq-3k - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMa-0000jO-6Y - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrIMa-0000bF-29 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:20 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrHsV-0003pV-Ez - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:36:15 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0JFa0Ke023682; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:36:00 -0600 +\start +Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:36:00 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:36:00 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#34 Axiom missing rm, - cat ] windows/unix compatibility +Subject: [#34 Axiom missing rm, cat ] windows/unix compatibility The most recent version of Axiom for Windows at AxiomDownload includes windows compatible versions of these utilities that @@ -52406,89 +33688,11 @@ commands and write simple replacement code directly in lisp. That way portability becomes a GCL (or other lisp) issue - where it belongs. I think we should give this issue a high priority. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/34AxiomMissingRmCat#msg20050119093558-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrITJ-0002hz-Ei - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:14:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIN2-0000wM-AS - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMr-0000rS-DL - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrIMn-0000bF-Sm - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:34 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrHgI-0002bk-2f - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:23:38 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0JFN9Ke005888; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:23:09 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:23:09 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [FrontPage] - - ---removed: --From BillPage Wed Jan 19 09:20:12 -0600 2005 --From: Bill Page --Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:20:12 -0600 --Subject: this is not a mathbug, only the output is not as nice as it could be --Message-ID: <003d01c4fe3a$6c918190$6501a8c0@Asus> --In-Reply-To: <20050119083421-0600@page.axiom-developer.org> -- --> --> Category: Axiom Mathematics => Axiom User Interface --> Severity: normal => minor --> -- -- :) -- --This shows where your priorities are Martin! But, thanks. -- --Some User Interface issue is involved here, but I don't --think that it is quite correct to classify it this way. --The issue is really what symbollic computations are --[2 more lines...] --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage#msg20050119092309-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMq-0000sF-9b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMe-0000lg-LU - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMX-0000gD-Ln - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrIMX-0000bF-HC - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:17 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrHvr-0004Cj-Di - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:39:43 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0JFcYKe027115; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:38:34 -0600 +\start +Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:38:34 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:38:34 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#36 sman/graphics connection hang] (new) > @@ -52509,35 +33713,11 @@ No it doesn't stop if graphics is missing. The draw function in Axiom attempts to send data to a separate graphics display process but no error is returned if the display process is not present. Probably there should be better checking. --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/36SmanGraphicsConnectionHang#msg20050119093834-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIWN-00048t-9C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:17:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMt-0000sY-KA - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMZ-0000iB-Rf - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrIMZ-0000bF-A3 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:19 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrHtY-0003xo-D6 - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:37:20 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0JFbBKe025247; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:37:11 -0600 + +\start +Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:37:11 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:37:11 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#35 Aldor compiler won't build] (new) I tried to build aldor last night. I succeeded in building the compiler @@ -52552,38 +33732,11 @@ compiler? e.g. edit Makefile.globals to change.... make aldorcompiler -.... - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/35AldorCompilerWontBuild#msg20050119093710-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMp-0000rj-8b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMc-0000jj-7p - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIMU-0000dA-3q - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrIMT-0000bF-Ok - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:07:13 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) - (Exim 4.34) id 1CrI45-00057k-LZ - for list; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:48:13 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0JFm2Ke008039; - Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:48:03 -0600 +\start +Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:48:02 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:48:02 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#37 )co aldor file does not work] (new) Peter Broadbery writes: @@ -52663,38 +33816,11 @@ Who could this be? It would be just wonderful to get this working! Thanks a million times, - --- -forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/37CoAldorFileDoesNotWork#msg20050119094800-0600@page.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1CrIYs-0005eO-Jb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 20